Why did Kamala lose ?

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Queer online communities came up with that. And immigrants overall are more conservative. Of course it wouldn't stick with them.


Totally false. Queer never had anything to do with it. It was invented as shorthand rather than typing out things like "latinos and latinas"


Sigh.

But Latinos is the word that encompasses both men and women. The O is the default gender for all.

Latinx and Folx are terms that became popular thanks to the same people named Jim who opt to spell it Jym to communicate to the world that they are not cisgender hetero…they are unique/different.

I think the tribe has spoken: enough already. Pandering to the fringe alienates more voters than it attracts.

We lost. Let’s figure out why and do better next time.


"Latinos" refers to males. And maybe as a stretch "and oh yea maybe you women too, I'm neglectful of including you."


Nope. Wrong. My degree in Spanish and decades of working domestically and abroad with native Spanish speakers confirms the reality that the masculine ending is in fact the universal ending when referring to groups of men and women.

Your modern day beef with the patriarchy prompted a bizarre need for English liberals to shove Latinx down our throats…so ladies aren’t left out yet practically speaking aren’t really seen in the X. Dumb.

We just lost to Trump precisely because of a laundry list of DUMB things. Let’s be better. In fact, let’s try to Be Best.
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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the people don’t like inflation and mass illegal immigration.


Biden/Harris finally got a bipartisan plan and Trump told Republicana not to vote for it so he could win. Now he’ll take credit for it if it passes. If I were a democrat I would now not vote for it.


That bill won’t pass. A much more enforcement-focused bill will.


The House bill had a lot of problems. And it didn't even mention fentanyl smuggling. But I guess that warped bill is what we're gonna get now.

And will he keep his promise of "mass deportations" meaning 15 million, which will destroy many American businesses and drive costs up significantly?

Funny how every time I bring up the consequences of his proposals, no Republican ever responds.


No of course not. He won't do anything to torque off the rich and powerful. But neither would the other side.
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Anonymous wrote:Well you call half the nation nazis or garbage, you fight to allow mentally ill men to compete against your daughters in sports and force their daughters to change in locker rooms with grown men, you let in large swaths of illegal aliens to sick already expensive resources and take over apartment complexes and run gangs, you spend 100s of billion on a war overseas while Americans can’t afford their grocery and utilities, you rig with a candidate who wasn’t even elected but appointed to “save democracy”, you make abortion your top priority when most Americans don’t care for it, you gaslight the public for three and half years by putting Mr Magoo in charge of the nuclear codes, you select a VP who gives people the creeps and you spend the last four years telling men they’re sexist misogynist pigs and they’re the problem.

I think that about covers it.


+1 and I’m a woman. I’m relieved this morning. My young daughter and I were watching the results last night on tv. She said it best. “I really don’t like Trump as a person. But I don’t like Harris either and hope she doesn’t win. Trump would be a better president.”


Even though he laid out ZERO PLANS. This tells you who voted for him and that they are not intelligent to vote for the unlikeable yet prepared adult in the room over the infantile destructive elitist. burn baby burn.
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Anonymous wrote:Because Harris is fake, and people see through her disingenuousness


Democrat here. This was it for me. She’s not authentic at all, she didn’t stand for anything. Her entire campaign was a script, same answers for everything. And would get super nervous when she got any pushback from an interview. I can’t explain it, but she didn’t feel like a real person or someone I could relate with.

At least I could relate to grandpa Joe and him being a nice decent family man, who’s kids had issues, like your average American family.

Kamala’s entire existence just felt too…phony. It also didn’t help her bragging about aligning with the Cheney’s, of all people. What were they thinking?!


As if Trump is "authentic?" The guy has been a con man and a grifter his whole life.


I wish the post and your response could be pinned.

The problem is actually your response. If someone says they want a better candidate with better policies, your instinct to scream back that the other party (that PP is not a member of) is worse (when PP did not make a Trump-supportive comment).

Do you truly not see the problem with this kind of pattern of deflection? It’s very representative of how we pretend we maintain the big tent as Democratic voters.
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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.


only 65% of us workers have college degrees.

the policies pushed by democrats are focused on the 35% and they have contempt for the working class.

1 - overwhelming immigration - legal and illegal -> lowers wages for US workers. good for elites and companies, bad for people
2 - inflation -> it hurt the 65% worse than the 35% who view it as bad but not a big deal.
3 - DEI and Trans -> anyone that has had to interact with DEI nonsense at large corporation knows this is a waste of money and time, do we really want gov paying for sex change operations
4 - H1XXB and OXXPT -> job outsourcing programs that Democrats expanded, really, the same party that claims they help US workers
5 - Harris -> poor candidate, just had nothing to offer.


Legal immigration pushes come from companies like Google and hurt a lot of US white collar workers, just very few people talk about it because nobody wants to cry for the poor unemployed computer science grad.
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Anonymous wrote:-because she was a DEI pick and we are all so f-ing sick of DEI picks.


I voted for Harris and wanted her to win, but I was also prepared for her administration to be a mess and any criticism of that be dismissed as “racist”.

All Karine Jean-Pierre does is gaslight.

KJP is a clown and gaslights constantly. She has this smug, condescending attitude that is so off putting.
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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.


Country is racist and sexiest. Surprise


Presumably, you mean sexist, not sexiest. It would be nice if half the country was sexy. Unfortunately, I think your analysis is the extent of thought that Democrats are going to put into the question. We're way too smart and morally superior to proofread or do any soul searching. It is lazy, arrogant thinking, which is exactly what got us here. The current Democratic ideology is premised on the idea that white people are so deep down racist that they can't even be allowed to try not to be racist or decide for themselves whether they are or not. And, racism is only bad if directed at black or brown people. Just like sexism is only bad if directed at women or transgender. I think the country was so fed up with this elitist, hypocritical ideology that they were willing to elect a fascist rather than vote for it. Imagine how much worse it would have been if the Republicans actually had a normal competent candidate.
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Anonymous wrote:Because Harris is fake, and people see through her disingenuousness


Democrat here. This was it for me. She’s not authentic at all, she didn’t stand for anything. Her entire campaign was a script, same answers for everything. And would get super nervous when she got any pushback from an interview. I can’t explain it, but she didn’t feel like a real person or someone I could relate with.

At least I could relate to grandpa Joe and him being a nice decent family man, who’s kids had issues, like your average American family.

Kamala’s entire existence just felt too…phony. It also didn’t help her bragging about aligning with the Cheney’s, of all people. What were they thinking?!

Even the Republicans have shown the neocons the door.


Thanks to Trump. When Trump received cheers at the first or second Republican debate when he criticized the “stupid” wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, that was a groundbreaking shift. Trump and Obama both were vocally anti Iraq war in 2003/2004 and both are direct results of the bipartisan neocon rejection by Americans.

Trump saved the Republican Party and kicked out the neocons and now they’re politically homeless
Anonymous
Wanna bet he tries for a third term? Argument will be two consecutive terms.

Economy - the US had the best recovery economy from COVID than any other country. Many of Biden initiatives will spur the economy even further in the next couple of years and Trump will take credit for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.


only 65% of us workers have college degrees.

the policies pushed by democrats are focused on the 35% and they have contempt for the working class.

1 - overwhelming immigration - legal and illegal -> lowers wages for US workers. good for elites and companies, bad for people
2 - inflation -> it hurt the 65% worse than the 35% who view it as bad but not a big deal.
3 - DEI and Trans -> anyone that has had to interact with DEI nonsense at large corporation knows this is a waste of money and time, do we really want gov paying for sex change operations
4 - H1XXB and OXXPT -> job outsourcing programs that Democrats expanded, really, the same party that claims they help US workers
5 - Harris -> poor candidate, just had nothing to offer.


1. Immigration also keeps cost of groceries, construction and many other things down. And as for "keeping wages down" the jobs immigrants take are brutal, dirty jobs that Americans don't want in the first place. Doesn't it occur to you that those costs will go up and hurt people, yet the elites and big companies won't care either way?
2. Don't you think Trump's proposed tariffs won't significantly increase inflation?
3. How exactly do you think Trump is going to deal with "DEI nonsense at large corporations?" Is he going to pass laws telling private businesses what they can and can't do? I thought Republicans were opposed to that kind of regulation.
4. Agree that we should be cultivating and developing home-grown talent for STEM and other fields but honestly we aren't keeping up yet we can steal the best and brightest that China and India have
5. Trump is senile and has dementia and has had nothing to offer but the same grievances and whining he's had since 2016, how's he any better?

Explain where I'm wrong.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because Harris is fake, and people see through her disingenuousness


Democrat here. This was it for me. She’s not authentic at all, she didn’t stand for anything. Her entire campaign was a script, same answers for everything. And would get super nervous when she got any pushback from an interview. I can’t explain it, but she didn’t feel like a real person or someone I could relate with.

At least I could relate to grandpa Joe and him being a nice decent family man, who’s kids had issues, like your average American family.

Kamala’s entire existence just felt too…phony. It also didn’t help her bragging about aligning with the Cheney’s, of all people. What were they thinking?!


As if Trump is "authentic?" The guy has been a con man and a grifter his whole life.


I wish the post and your response could be pinned.

The problem is actually your response. If someone says they want a better candidate with better policies, your instinct to scream back that the other party (that PP is not a member of) is worse (when PP did not make a Trump-supportive comment).

Do you truly not see the problem with this kind of pattern of deflection? It’s very representative of how we pretend we maintain the big tent as Democratic voters.


The biggest problem Dems have are not the candidates but their inability to listen. So many would be Democrats left the party after they spent four years being called Russian trolls whenever they brought up concerns or voiced that they thought Biden was not senile or well. Dems claimed he was “sharp as a tack”, and all the video clips were “fake Russian news/deep fakes”.
Anonymous
People love Trump. They do. It’s the truth. That may be hard to hear and impossible for you to understand, but it’s true. People love Trump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wanna bet he tries for a third term? Argument will be two consecutive terms.

Economy - the US had the best recovery economy from COVID than any other country. Many of Biden initiatives will spur the economy even further in the next couple of years and Trump will take credit for it.


Just like how he took credit for Obama's economy.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because Harris is fake, and people see through her disingenuousness


Democrat here. This was it for me. She’s not authentic at all, she didn’t stand for anything. Her entire campaign was a script, same answers for everything. And would get super nervous when she got any pushback from an interview. I can’t explain it, but she didn’t feel like a real person or someone I could relate with.

At least I could relate to grandpa Joe and him being a nice decent family man, who’s kids had issues, like your average American family.

Kamala’s entire existence just felt too…phony. It also didn’t help her bragging about aligning with the Cheney’s, of all people. What were they thinking?!


As if Trump is "authentic?" The guy has been a con man and a grifter his whole life.



yes, but he doesn't pretend to be nice. He's an a$$ and he doesn't hide it.
Harris has that whole "I'm going to pretend to be your BFF but in reality I couldn't give two sh$%ts about you" vibe going on.

Maybe I'm wrong (and I voted for her) but she really comes across like this.
Anonymous
14 million democratic voters didnt get their pick... silence

THE PARTY installed this candidate... silence

Why did Kamala lose?.... UUGGGHHH!
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