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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


Ultimately this is what we’ll be doing. I can’t wait to hear everyone scream about how we’re sending the wrong message to our kids about what a priority school is though.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.


I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


This was the reason that was given on DCUM or from a credible source? Did FCPS run a report on PTO and determine that the day teachers most often taken off was Friday?


On DCUM. The schools of course have given no justification for their choice which is why, again, people are enraged about it. They act as though they are, or should be, unaccountable for their choices.


They don’t need to be accountable to parents for this decision. Even when it comes to the school board, FCPS is allowed to make operational decisions without the school boards approval.


They absolutely need to be accountable to parents, or give up on the idea parents need to “support” them. What happened in Loudon is a great example of what will happen if the trend continues.


Or maybe Loudoun will learn to make the announcement over the summertime instead of the school year.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.


I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.


YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


Ultimately this is what we’ll be doing. I can’t wait to hear everyone scream about how we’re sending the wrong message to our kids about what a priority school is though.


FCPS only has itself to blame. All the random holidays and work days send the message. My kid is in a lower performing middle school. After the SOLs, the school changes the schedule to build in extra time to work with the majority who failed. Those who passed are supposed to spend those weeks doing self directed learning. My kid and most of their friends got the message loud and clear. They had almost daily doctors appointments or illnesses because reading at home is preferable to Lexia or just staring into space for those finished with Lexia
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.


I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.


YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.


Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.


And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


This was the reason that was given on DCUM or from a credible source? Did FCPS run a report on PTO and determine that the day teachers most often taken off was Friday?


On DCUM. The schools of course have given no justification for their choice which is why, again, people are enraged about it. They act as though they are, or should be, unaccountable for their choices.


They don’t need to be accountable to parents for this decision. Even when it comes to the school board, FCPS is allowed to make operational decisions without the school boards approval.


They absolutely need to be accountable to parents, or give up on the idea parents need to “support” them. What happened in Loudon is a great example of what will happen if the trend continues.


Or maybe Loudoun will learn to make the announcement over the summertime instead of the school year.


Their entire school board was voted out. I think they’ve learned not to alienate the parents.
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Anonymous wrote:The calendar already has 14 teacher/staff development workdays. They could fit this into those days????

What a joke.


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They already have so few 5 day weeks of school.

Remember when they made that HUGE deal about creating calendars for the next three years and included in bold the number of 5 day weeks?

This feels like a sneaky bait and switch. Thanks FCPS.


Do you honestly have so little trust in FCPS that you think this was a bait and switch? Come on. Use your brain.

FCPS isn't the one who planned 27-36 hours of additional required training for teachers.That was the state. Youngkin.

My kids' teachers already work too many hours, and they shouldn't have to sacrifice any more of their personal time to complete these requirements. If these trainings make literacy instruction stronger, I'm all for kids missing a few hours of instruction each month.



Again. What trainings are mandatory except for the state? None, so drop the other non mandatory trainings


Actually quite a few are yearly mandatory trainings.


Mandated by who? If it's FCPS drop that shiz
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They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


This was the reason that was given on DCUM or from a credible source? Did FCPS run a report on PTO and determine that the day teachers most often taken off was Friday?


On DCUM. The schools of course have given no justification for their choice which is why, again, people are enraged about it. They act as though they are, or should be, unaccountable for their choices.


They don’t need to be accountable to parents for this decision. Even when it comes to the school board, FCPS is allowed to make operational decisions without the school boards approval.


I’ve thought this too. I don’t expect FCPS to survey us about things like the school calendar. I think about the times they have and they get so many differing opinions it’s like having too many cooks in the kitchen.

Where we’ve lived before, the districts just put out the calendar for the following school year. They make changes and nobody says “boo” about it. It is what it is.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.


I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.


YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.


Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.


And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.


Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend



Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend



Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.


And neither do the teachers who have to stay for training. Somehow they still need to get their kids home, etc.

Your problem isn’t unique.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend



Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.


And neither do the teachers who have to stay for training. Somehow they still need to get their kids home, etc.

Your problem isn’t unique.


I'm not pretending it is....? Multiple people can be disrupted by this for different reasons.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.


They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend


Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.


So telework Monday


Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.


It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.


Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.


Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.


Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.


Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?


Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.



This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.


The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.


LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.


This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week


This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.


I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.


YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.


Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.


And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.


Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.


I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.
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