FCPS Early Release Mondays

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

I’m sure you’ve never supported teachers, so it’ll make no difference, All set!

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

This was the reason that was given on DCUM or from a credible source? Did FCPS run a report on PTO and determine that the day teachers most often taken off was Friday?

Nope. I am the person who stated this on the first or second thread of this page. Pure speculation. A lot of people agreed with me - parent and teachers. And honestly, I wouldn't want to do training for my job on a Friday afternoon, why should teachers have to do it then just because it's convenient for you and me?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

Working “together” means that what parents need is taken into consideration. Your version of “together” doesn’t seem to include that.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

Probably at cost to parents and “space available” prioritized for teachers kids. The school board needs to be voted out starting with Ms. “Parents will adjust”!

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

All parents are asking is that we have a continuous school schedule. That is it. How are we supposed to "work together" when FCPS keeps cutting class days?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

All parents are asking is that we have a continuous school schedule. That is it. How are we supposed to "work together" when FCPS keeps cutting class days?

Gotcha, parents will continue to punish teachers for decisions made by senior leadership.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

If it’s not instructional time those staffing requirements don’t apply.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

All parents are asking is that we have a continuous school schedule. That is it. How are we supposed to "work together" when FCPS keeps cutting class days?

Gotcha, parents will continue to punish teachers for decisions made by senior leadership.

Where do you see “punish”? How is it “punishing” you to not give you support from resources were being asked to give elsewhere? Do you always feel victimized when someone doesn’t bend over backward for you?

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On balance this is going to come at a cost of, conservatively, $1,200 per household. So cut $1,200 per student out of requests for various things every year, and acknowledge the need to do so to meet FCPS decisions. That’s working “together”

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

All parents are asking is that we have a continuous school schedule. That is it. How are we supposed to "work together" when FCPS keeps cutting class days?

Gotcha, parents will continue to punish teachers for decisions made by senior leadership.

Where do you see “punish”? How is it “punishing” you to not give you support from resources were being asked to give elsewhere? Do you always feel victimized when someone doesn’t bend over backward for you?

What are you talking about bending over backwards? Supporting teachers is generally not “being a Karen”, but maybe that is bending over backwards for you.

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Anonymous wrote:On balance this is going to come at a cost of, conservatively, $1,200 per household. So cut $1,200 per student out of requests for various things every year, and acknowledge the need to do so to meet FCPS decisions. That’s working “together”

Maybe if you’re doing outside care. We have received no numbers surrounding in-school activities offered.