Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is an OK student at a Big-3 (Sidwell/GDS/StA)--B average, with a good number of AP/honors/"upper level" courses. SATs average for the school (1400s). Let's assume no hook, or small hook. Full pay (no FA or scholarship needed.) Will probably write a strong essay, but not astonishingly good. What are typical target schools for this kind of student? Thank you!

Op I hope you feel good about the fact that you flushed $250k down the toilet to end up at this list! At least you can still tell the people at the club you went to the Big 3.

I’m so sick of guilty, jealous public school parents saying stuff like this. People send their kids to private schools for many more reasons than college admissions. At this point, it does probably hinder kids as far as admissions. Look no farther than the thread in FCPS Schools where all the teachers are too lazy to grade papers, including at the AP level. At least my kid will know how to write and get her papers graded.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am reading here about kids with As and Bs at tough schools with rigorous course work (APs). And SATs in the 1400s. I really don’t get why you won’t expect to have success at strong LACs esp if you apply ED and are full pay. Ok maybe not top 10 anymore or even top 20, but 20 to 40 should be very much in play.

It's true, ED and full-pay will get you into 25-50 LAC. But my kid with that profile just got WL from Bucknell, JMU, and Elon. In at other 30-40 LACs however, in RD. It's very strange.

My 3.3 TO student, minimal rigor, from a VA private with good ECs got into Elon and JMU last year EA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am reading here about kids with As and Bs at tough schools with rigorous course work (APs). And SATs in the 1400s. I really don’t get why you won’t expect to have success at strong LACs esp if you apply ED and are full pay. Ok maybe not top 10 anymore or even top 20, but 20 to 40 should be very much in play.

It's true, ED and full-pay will get you into 25-50 LAC. But my kid with that profile just got WL from Bucknell, JMU, and Elon. In at other 30-40 LACs however, in RD. It's very strange.

My 3.3 TO student, minimal rigor, from a VA private with good ECs got into Elon and JMU last year EA.

Where did your kid go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, a #BigThree "B" is the equivalent of a second or third tier "A."

Thus, #BigThree grads with "B" averages sill attend top schools. Think Big Three A = Yale, Brown, UCLa, and Big Three B = UVA, Cornell, Georgetown

No, this is not true. You would need a good dose of As with those Bs to get into that latter set of schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am reading here about kids with As and Bs at tough schools with rigorous course work (APs). And SATs in the 1400s. I really don’t get why you won’t expect to have success at strong LACs esp if you apply ED and are full pay. Ok maybe not top 10 anymore or even top 20, but 20 to 40 should be very much in play.

It's true, ED and full-pay will get you into 25-50 LAC. But my kid with that profile just got WL from Bucknell, JMU, and Elon. In at other 30-40 LACs however, in RD. It's very strange.

My 3.3 TO student, minimal rigor, from a VA private with good ECs got into Elon and JMU last year EA.

Yep, and my 2.99 VA private got into those in 2021. This year is entirely different. They have about 30-50% more applicants, so they're just waitlisting almost anybody who didn't demonstrate interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is an OK student at a Big-3 (Sidwell/GDS/StA)--B average, with a good number of AP/honors/"upper level" courses. SATs average for the school (1400s). Let's assume no hook, or small hook. Full pay (no FA or scholarship needed.) Will probably write a strong essay, but not astonishingly good. What are typical target schools for this kind of student? Thank you!

Op I hope you feel good about the fact that you flushed $250k down the toilet to end up at this list! At least you can still tell the people at the club you went to the Big 3.

I’m so sick of guilty, jealous public school parents saying stuff like this. People send their kids to private schools for many more reasons than college admissions. At this point, it does probably hinder kids as far as admissions. Look no farther than the thread in FCPS Schools where all the teachers are too lazy to grade papers, including at the AP level. At least my kid will know how to write and get her papers graded.

I don’t feel guilty of sticking with public school or am I the least bit jealous of folks at a Big 3. After hearing multiple GDS and Sidwell parents tell us their kid is too good for public school, kind of taints the population. I’m sure you will be one of those parents on your school’s FB pages asking for laundry services and complaining about class selection even after YOU called the school to complain. So yeah, glad you wasted the money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is an OK student at a Big-3 (Sidwell/GDS/StA)--B average, with a good number of AP/honors/"upper level" courses. SATs average for the school (1400s). Let's assume no hook, or small hook. Full pay (no FA or scholarship needed.) Will probably write a strong essay, but not astonishingly good. What are typical target schools for this kind of student? Thank you!

Op I hope you feel good about the fact that you flushed $250k down the toilet to end up at this list! At least you can still tell the people at the club you went to the Big 3.

I’m so sick of guilty, jealous public school parents saying stuff like this. People send their kids to private schools for many more reasons than college admissions. At this point, it does probably hinder kids as far as admissions. Look no farther than the thread in FCPS Schools where all the teachers are too lazy to grade papers, including at the AP level. At least my kid will know how to write and get her papers graded.

I don’t feel guilty of sticking with public school or am I the least bit jealous of folks at a Big 3. After hearing multiple GDS and Sidwell parents tell us their kid is too good for public school, kind of taints the population. I’m sure you will be one of those parents on your school’s FB pages asking for laundry services and complaining about class selection even after YOU called the school to complain. So yeah, glad you wasted the money.

Just proves that private schools do not have a monopoly on idiot parents

[Anonymous]

JMU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, a #BigThree "B" is the equivalent of a second or third tier "A."

Thus, #BigThree grads with "B" averages sill attend top schools. Think Big Three A = Yale, Brown, UCLa, and Big Three B = UVA, Cornell, Georgetown

No, this is not true. You would need a good dose of As with those Bs to get into that latter set of schools.

I'd push back stronger - need mostly A's - maybe a B+ (or two) for latter group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am reading here about kids with As and Bs at tough schools with rigorous course work (APs). And SATs in the 1400s. I really don’t get why you won’t expect to have success at strong LACs esp if you apply ED and are full pay. Ok maybe not top 10 anymore or even top 20, but 20 to 40 should be very much in play.

It's true, ED and full-pay will get you into 25-50 LAC. But my kid with that profile just got WL from Bucknell, JMU, and Elon. In at other 30-40 LACs however, in RD. It's very strange.

My 3.3 TO student, minimal rigor, from a VA private with good ECs got into Elon and JMU last year EA.

Yep, and my 2.99 VA private got into those in 2021. This year is entirely different. They have about 30-50% more applicants, so they're just waitlisting almost anybody who didn't demonstrate interest.

JMU tracks demonstrated interest?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last year was rough too because Class of 2022 admissions classes were smaller due to all the COVID gap year kids from the class of '21.

That's partly correct. COVID gap year kids were class of 2020, who squeezed the # accepted for high school class of 2021. 2021 was also the first high school class for test optional. Many colleges overenrolled for that year, which for some colleges meant another squeezing the # accepted for high school class of 2022.

PP is exactly right. Few kids in the Class of 2021 took gap years -- they were ready to get back to in-person. It's the Class of 2020 that had large numbers of students who took gap years, which has had a ripple effect on admissions since then (along with TO, of course).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, a #BigThree "B" is the equivalent of a second or third tier "A."

Thus, #BigThree grads with "B" averages sill attend top schools. Think Big Three A = Yale, Brown, UCLa, and Big Three B = UVA, Cornell, Georgetown

No, this is not true. You would need a good dose of As with those Bs to get into that latter set of schools.

I'd push back stronger - need mostly A's - maybe a B+ (or two) for latter group.

+1 that poster is smoking something strong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year was rough too because Class of 2022 admissions classes were smaller due to all the COVID gap year kids from the class of '21.

That's partly correct. COVID gap year kids were class of 2020, who squeezed the # accepted for high school class of 2021. 2021 was also the first high school class for test optional. Many colleges overenrolled for that year, which for some colleges meant another squeezing the # accepted for high school class of 2022.

PP is exactly right. Few kids in the Class of 2021 took gap years -- they were ready to get back to in-person. It's the Class of 2020 that had large numbers of students who took gap years, which has had a ripple effect on admissions since then (along with TO, of course).

Lots of 2021 kids took gap years when they learned classes would still be on line and social life still restricted severely at some schools. For most campuses, the class of 2022 was the first post-COVID class to have a normal freshman year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am reading here about kids with As and Bs at tough schools with rigorous course work (APs). And SATs in the 1400s. I really don’t get why you won’t expect to have success at strong LACs esp if you apply ED and are full pay. Ok maybe not top 10 anymore or even top 20, but 20 to 40 should be very much in play.

It's true, ED and full-pay will get you into 25-50 LAC. But my kid with that profile just got WL from Bucknell, JMU, and Elon. In at other 30-40 LACs however, in RD. It's very strange.

My 3.3 TO student, minimal rigor, from a VA private with good ECs got into Elon and JMU last year EA.

Yep, and my 2.99 VA private got into those in 2021. This year is entirely different. They have about 30-50% more applicants, so they're just waitlisting almost anybody who didn't demonstrate interest.

JMU tracks demonstrated interest?

I don't think JMU tracks interest. With that many applicants it is mostly GPA and SAT score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am reading here about kids with As and Bs at tough schools with rigorous course work (APs). And SATs in the 1400s. I really don’t get why you won’t expect to have success at strong LACs esp if you apply ED and are full pay. Ok maybe not top 10 anymore or even top 20, but 20 to 40 should be very much in play.

It's true, ED and full-pay will get you into 25-50 LAC. But my kid with that profile just got WL from Bucknell, JMU, and Elon. In at other 30-40 LACs however, in RD. It's very strange.

My 3.3 TO student, minimal rigor, from a VA private with good ECs got into Elon and JMU last year EA.

Yep, and my 2.99 VA private got into those in 2021. This year is entirely different. They have about 30-50% more applicants, so they're just waitlisting almost anybody who didn't demonstrate interest.

JMU tracks demonstrated interest?

I don't think JMU tracks interest. With that many applicants it is mostly GPA and SAT score.

Their CDS tells you:

They consider rigor of academic courses and GPA "very important." SAT is only "considered" not important or very important and is in the same category as ECs, essays, recommendations, geographical residence etc.

Demonstrated interest is "Not Considered" so they don't track it at all.