FCYBL-is this allowed?

[Anonymous]

“You had more zip code exceptions than we did” just doesn’t seem like a strong moral argument. I know the league allows 2 (I assume for reasons other than trying to bring in ringers), but huge props to the coaches that don’t play that game.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

I think so. There's nothing wrong or unusual about kids with summer birthdays playing in the next grade down in this league if that was their school grade all alongn (red-shirts). What is iffy and raises eyebrows is if the kid stays in 7th grade three years in a row.

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Anonymous wrote:“You had more zip code exceptions than we did” just doesn’t seem like a strong moral argument. I know the league allows 2 (I assume for reasons other than trying to bring in ringers), but huge props to the coaches that don’t play that game.

The league says in their rules that its a maximum of 2 per team. Most coaches don't have any problems with a team that has 2 exceptions. Most teams have fewer than 2. Some teams only have players who are in-zone. Some of the smaller leagues encourage developing local players and discourage any out-of-zip players.

The FCYBL commissioner admitted on their coach meeting that this season they allowed ten teams to have 3 exceptions. There is nothing in the rules explaining that this can be done or what criteria are used to allow this. It all seems very underhanded and that rubs the coaches who follow the rules without trying to bend them or cheat the wrong way.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

[Anonymous]

The top 3-4 teams in each division get to nominate an MVP for that division. So all 8-9 or so coaches got to select the MVP from a very short list of candidates. Most coaches consider performance, skill, and sportsmanship. You can't vote for your own nominee. I'm second-hand cringing over that coach's comments. Yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

I was just talking to the parent of a kid with a July 2009 birthday who’s dad reclassed him last year and his coach was just claiming he is the best 7th grader in the state.

[Anonymous]

He should be in 9th grade lol!

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

I was just talking to the parent of a kid with a July 2009 birthday who’s dad reclassed him last year and his coach was just claiming he is the best 7th grader in the state.

NP here. I also know a kid with a July 09 birthday who is in 7th grade on a high level team. Maybe it’s the same kid! The dad isn’t shy in sharing this tidbit!

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

I was just talking to the parent of a kid with a July 2009 birthday who’s dad reclassed him last year and his coach was just claiming he is the best 7th grader in the state.

NP here. I also know a kid with a July 09 birthday who is in 7th grade on a high level team. Maybe it’s the same kid! The dad isn’t shy in sharing this tidbit!

Probably. First initial M?

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Anonymous wrote:He should be in 9th grade lol!

Yeah, and at 9th grade level he’d be an average good player.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

I was just talking to the parent of a kid with a July 2009 birthday who’s dad reclassed him last year and his coach was just claiming he is the best 7th grader in the state.

NP here. I also know a kid with a July 09 birthday who is in 7th grade on a high level team. Maybe it’s the same kid! The dad isn’t shy in sharing this tidbit!

Probably. First initial M?

Oh my goodness- yes- first initial is M.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

I was just talking to the parent of a kid with a July 2009 birthday who’s dad reclassed him last year and his coach was just claiming he is the best 7th grader in the state.

NP here. I also know a kid with a July 09 birthday who is in 7th grade on a high level team. Maybe it’s the same kid! The dad isn’t shy in sharing this tidbit!

Probably. First initial M?

Oh my goodness- yes- first initial is M.

If the last is A, then that’s him. If ypur kid already older than the other kids in his class, I just don’t see it benefiting him I’m the long run to to this again.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.

Idk if he should have been MVP, but he’s older than most of the kids in his grade. His parents may not have purposely done it to gain an athletic advantage though. He’s from a foreign country so there may have some issues when he transferred his education to this country that caused him to be older.

Its common to have kids who are "redshirted older" in any grade-based sport. For instance, kid with a June 2009 birthday who was red shirted and started K a year late playing in an 8th grade league this year who has always been in the cohort of kids now in 8th grade is in the normal range of things.
A kid who was in 8th grade, then homeschooled 8th grade for a year, then is in 8th grade again for the third time is NOT normal. The league should not permit that. It's absurd. People can parent however they like, but for a grade based league, you should only get one year playing in each grade.

This is the reclass era. If you research, you will find that many of the elite players have done this.

I was just talking to the parent of a kid with a July 2009 birthday who’s dad reclassed him last year and his coach was just claiming he is the best 7th grader in the state.

NP here. I also know a kid with a July 09 birthday who is in 7th grade on a high level team. Maybe it’s the same kid! The dad isn’t shy in sharing this tidbit!

Probably. First initial M?

Oh my goodness- yes- first initial is M.

If the last is A, then that’s him. If ypur kid already older than the other kids in his class, I just don’t see it benefiting him I’m the long run to to this again.

PP here. I thought there’s no way it’s the same kid…I was wrong. Same kid.

I know him through a second sport he plays, so I’ve never actually seen him play basketball live (just in video clips). Undeniably a talented athlete. His dad definitely has a plan for him in basketball.