FCYBL-is this allowed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The politics of basketball are evident. I don’t know how they work but you see with girl teams too. Sham tryouts at this age is unfair for new players. This is county. People should relax and give everyone a chance. AAU players are simply more experienced by

Most zip codes have multiple teams. You can try out broadly. I'd expect different tryouts to be 'shams' for different reasons. A team that has been together and is also playing AAU year round isn't going to replace half its players based on a couple of open gyms. On the other extreme a parent coached team is going to carry the coach's and assistant coach's kid. If the team is just an extension of rec, they may carry age group commissioners kids as well. At the ridiculous extreme those kids' friends are also in.

That's not what happened here. An existing AAU team and coach from another area that happened to have a few players who played Mclean travel last winter came in and took over the team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAU teams can also form from county team to let them play together when county is not in season. DD's team does this.

Nova94 Feet teams play year-round so that is not what happened here.

if the other coach thinks something's up, they can ask for proof of residency. Every player is supposed to have provided it to their club

What does this mean? You can show up to coach and FCYBL game and demand that the other coach show you every player's residency proof?

My husband coaches for a different FCYBL org and he was not asked to collect any info from his players. Last season he had to provide SIS pages for each kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The politics of basketball are evident. I don’t know how they work but you see with girl teams too. Sham tryouts at this age is unfair for new players. This is county. People should relax and give everyone a chance. AAU players are simply more experienced by

Most zip codes have multiple teams. You can try out broadly. I'd expect different tryouts to be 'shams' for different reasons. A team that has been together and is also playing AAU year round isn't going to replace half its players based on a couple of open gyms. On the other extreme a parent coached team is going to carry the coach's and assistant coach's kid. If the team is just an extension of rec, they may carry age group commissioners kids as well. At the ridiculous extreme those kids' friends are also in.

That's not what happened here. An existing AAU team and coach from another area that happened to have a few players who played Mclean travel last winter came in and took over the team.

Zip code rules are in place this season, complain to the FCYBL, cc the league commissioner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The politics of basketball are evident. I don’t know how they work but you see with girl teams too. Sham tryouts at this age is unfair for new players. This is county. People should relax and give everyone a chance. AAU players are simply more experienced by

Most zip codes have multiple teams. You can try out broadly. I'd expect different tryouts to be 'shams' for different reasons. A team that has been together and is also playing AAU year round isn't going to replace half its players based on a couple of open gyms. On the other extreme a parent coached team is going to carry the coach's and assistant coach's kid. If the team is just an extension of rec, they may carry age group commissioners kids as well. At the ridiculous extreme those kids' friends are also in.

Most, but not all, zip codes can try out for two different teams. Some zips only have one team. Trying out for two different teams with ten open spots (really 8 after coaches kids) is not "broadly" in any sense of the word.

[Anonymous]

Are teams being asked to provide residency proof, or not? There seems to be conflicting info.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAU teams can also form from county team to let them play together when county is not in season. DD's team does this.

Nova94 Feet teams play year-round so that is not what happened here.

if the other coach thinks something's up, they can ask for proof of residency. Every player is supposed to have provided it to their club

What does this mean? You can show up to coach and FCYBL game and demand that the other coach show you every player's residency proof?

My husband coaches for a different FCYBL org and he was not asked to collect any info from his players. Last season he had to provide SIS pages for each kid.

The SIS page has grade year and zip code.

[Anonymous]

Right, but he wasn't asked to provide anything this year for his new players so ???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh, this thread explains so much. This McLean team played my son's FCYBL team in the BRYC Thanksgiving tournament and it was a SLAUGHTER. Like along the lines of 70-5. I forget exactly. Our kids had never played together before in a game as a team, they just started in season practices. This team was so good (and had so many TALL athletic kids). Usually at this age you get tall, or athletic. They had many players with both. This is my third kid to go through FCYBL and I have never seen a team with so many extraordinarily tall, athletic kids. We were joking about the water in McLean.

They seemed like they had played together forever, running plays (we were like, how did they learn all these plays when we just got 2-practices-a-week gym space the week before Thanksgiving?

I was a little irritated that the coach didn't put in his bench players once the score was like oh 40-2 but that may have been sour grapes. Some of their kids got very little play time.

(Our games were very competitive against all the other teams, and this team blew out every other team.)

A team that has played together year-round for years is not fair competition in FCYBL---FCYBL teams are formed each fall and they don't get official practice time until November 15.

We have played McLean teams for many seasons in FCYBL and the 2-3 McLean zip codes are not exactly basketball powerhouses. I would be very interested to see the addresses for all these very tall athletic kids. The odds area insanely low that all these unicorn kids just happen to live in the handful of assigned zip codes. An FCYBL team might get ONE super tall, super athletic kid in their whole geographic area each season.

The assistant coach who is the AAU coach previously coached for CYA and for Herndon. If his kid is that good, he should be able to just play in his local FCYBL league and win. He shouldn't have to build some kind of secret super AAU team to win FCYBL games. He really puts everything out on social media, wow.

(Also, how can someone be a star of the "Fairfax County Middle School Basketball Team" ???? FCPS middle schools don't even have basketball teams. I have questions.....

[Anonymous]

He doesn't just want to win FCYBL games. He wants to completely demolish every other team to prove how amazing his kid is-he is obviously campaigning for private high school team recruitment. The scores don't have an asterisk that say *kid is playing on secretly stacked AAU team*. It will just look like his kid is a superstar scoring 70 points a game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't just want to win FCYBL games. He wants to completely demolish every other team to prove how amazing his kid is-he is obviously campaigning for private high school team recruitment. The scores don't have an asterisk that say *kid is playing on secretly stacked AAU team*. It will just look like his kid is a superstar scoring 70 points a game.

Any kid who gets pissed off enough can crowd the superstar every time he's landing after a jump shot or layup and totally derail the private school plan

[Anonymous]

No, FCPS middle schools do not have basketball teams. How bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He doesn't just want to win FCYBL games. He wants to completely demolish every other team to prove how amazing his kid is-he is obviously campaigning for private high school team recruitment. The scores don't have an asterisk that say *kid is playing on secretly stacked AAU team*. It will just look like his kid is a superstar scoring 70 points a game.

Any kid who gets pissed off enough can crowd the superstar every time he's landing after a jump shot or layup and totally derail the private school plan

The rest of us normal parents and coaches aren't insane like this guy. No one would tell their kid to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't just want to win FCYBL games. He wants to completely demolish every other team to prove how amazing his kid is-he is obviously campaigning for private high school team recruitment. The scores don't have an asterisk that say *kid is playing on secretly stacked AAU team*. It will just look like his kid is a superstar scoring 70 points a game.

Any kid who gets pissed off enough can crowd the superstar every time he's landing after a jump shot or layup and totally derail the private school plan

The rest of us normal parents and coaches aren't insane like this guy. No one would tell their kid to do that.

It's not about anyone telling a kid anything. It's about a kid getting angry off enough that they are on a court losing by 70 and the other team is still playing starters. Middle schoolers don't like being embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't just want to win FCYBL games. He wants to completely demolish every other team to prove how amazing his kid is-he is obviously campaigning for private high school team recruitment. The scores don't have an asterisk that say *kid is playing on secretly stacked AAU team*. It will just look like his kid is a superstar scoring 70 points a game.

This guy's social media is something else. Really went well with my morning coffee. How many teams can one kid play on at the same time (a Loudoun county team and a McLean FCYBL team and an AAU team and a whole bunch of other teams all at once)? Do people really hire this many 1:1 trainers for their kid? Any kid would be amazing after years of that. He certainly can't be accused of hiding anything, he posted pictures of the AAU team and the McLean team and it's obviously almost all the same players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't just want to win FCYBL games. He wants to completely demolish every other team to prove how amazing his kid is-he is obviously campaigning for private high school team recruitment. The scores don't have an asterisk that say *kid is playing on secretly stacked AAU team*. It will just look like his kid is a superstar scoring 70 points a game.

Agree that this is the plan. He needs all those tall athletic AAU kids to make his kid--a guard--shine. When his kid just played with the regular zip code kids on a regular zip code team, he couldn't put up a zillion points a game. My kid would also play better surrounded by an AAU team he has played with for years lol.