FCYBL-is this allowed?

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Anonymous wrote:McLean is going to take home the trophy. This years team is far more talented than last years 7th grade team.

I meant more talented than last years 8th grade team.

Their 8th grade boys team last year was substantially bigger and better than every other D1 team and all the other D1 teams were good teams. Amazing that every 6'3 athletically gifted 8th grader in Fairfax lives in Mcleans zip codes.:::

The mclean 8th gr coach last year was the subject of one of the many poor sportsmanship reviews by the league and was suspended for 2 games after his team scored on their own basket on purpose to mock another team. Pretty gross.

Honestly if the league didnt allow so many special secret wink wink privileges to some coaches, they wouldn't have so many sportsmanship issues.

What?!?!

Yes, this was against my son's team so I saw the whole thing. The Mclean team was the only 8th gr D1 team all season that had sportsmanship issues even though there were many other games between different teams that had large point spreads and McLean had so many issues with the other teams between the kids, parents and coach.
The Mclean team was winning easily. There was trash talk on the court.
League rules are that if a coach wins by 40 points or more, he is automatically suspended the next game.
A Mclean player bad at math went and scored and put their lead to 41 points.
Mclean coach called a timeout and apparently told the kids to play no defense. They came out and just stood around on the court. Basically taunting our kids to go ahead and score, they weren't going to try to stop them. Our kids started just passing the ball around. Eventually, a Mclean player stole the ball and went to score on his own basket to try to adjust the score, one of our kids tried to defend against the basket and they started shoving. The refs called the game and the Mclean coach got suspended for at least one game.

You can read in this article how the Mclean coach had some kind of bizarre winners' sour grapes and tried to spin it as everyone else was mad that they were too good. Well, when you over-improve for the neighborhood, and sign up for a league with sportsmanship rules, you are signing up for a frustrating season. You still gotta follow the rules. The "lying about their scores" was because they underreported at least one game score to avoid the over 40 penalty.

(Also in this article he mentions adding a player later to their roster: that's against the rules, the rosters are set before the season starts so I'm not sure how he got permission to add a player or if he even asked for permission). The kid he whined about who he thought should have been league MVP had multiple Ts for bad sportsmanship that season so I'm sure that's why the coaches didn't select him.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/mclean-youth-basketball-team-overcomes-outside-pressure-to-capture-championship/article_89dadce8-c9a9-11ed-8a2e-433f5a5b050f.html

That picture has 3 players that reclassed. One of which, reclassed again and is playing with McLean this upcoming season.

Reclassification is popular in sports now. Even more so in lacrosse.

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LOL, no wonder they were twice the size of any other team in D1 last year. Some of their guards were bigger than most team's centers.

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Anonymous wrote:McLean is going to take home the trophy. This years team is far more talented than last years 7th grade team.

I meant more talented than last years 8th grade team.

Their 8th grade boys team last year was substantially bigger and better than every other D1 team and all the other D1 teams were good teams. Amazing that every 6'3 athletically gifted 8th grader in Fairfax lives in Mcleans zip codes.:::

The mclean 8th gr coach last year was the subject of one of the many poor sportsmanship reviews by the league and was suspended for 2 games after his team scored on their own basket on purpose to mock another team. Pretty gross.

Honestly if the league didnt allow so many special secret wink wink privileges to some coaches, they wouldn't have so many sportsmanship issues.

What?!?!

Yes, this was against my son's team so I saw the whole thing. The Mclean team was the only 8th gr D1 team all season that had sportsmanship issues even though there were many other games between different teams that had large point spreads and McLean had so many issues with the other teams between the kids, parents and coach.
The Mclean team was winning easily. There was trash talk on the court.
League rules are that if a coach wins by 40 points or more, he is automatically suspended the next game.
A Mclean player bad at math went and scored and put their lead to 41 points.
Mclean coach called a timeout and apparently told the kids to play no defense. They came out and just stood around on the court. Basically taunting our kids to go ahead and score, they weren't going to try to stop them. Our kids started just passing the ball around. Eventually, a Mclean player stole the ball and went to score on his own basket to try to adjust the score, one of our kids tried to defend against the basket and they started shoving. The refs called the game and the Mclean coach got suspended for at least one game.

You can read in this article how the Mclean coach had some kind of bizarre winners' sour grapes and tried to spin it as everyone else was mad that they were too good. Well, when you over-improve for the neighborhood, and sign up for a league with sportsmanship rules, you are signing up for a frustrating season. You still gotta follow the rules. The "lying about their scores" was because they underreported at least one game score to avoid the over 40 penalty.

(Also in this article he mentions adding a player later to their roster: that's against the rules, the rosters are set before the season starts so I'm not sure how he got permission to add a player or if he even asked for permission). The kid he whined about who he thought should have been league MVP had multiple Ts for bad sportsmanship that season so I'm sure that's why the coaches didn't select him.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/mclean-youth-basketball-team-overcomes-outside-pressure-to-capture-championship/article_89dadce8-c9a9-11ed-8a2e-433f5a5b050f.html

That picture has 3 players that reclassed. One of which, reclassed again and is playing with McLean this upcoming season.

Reclassification is popular in sports now. Even more so in lacrosse.

County is not AAU where anything goes. Most county coaches and families would be surprised to learn a player was in 8th grade three years in a row. Its a four year league and these kids are playing for 6-7 years. Ridiculous.

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The issue is 90% of the coaches follow the rules and just take the kids who show up for the advertised organization's tryouts, maybe they take 1-2 zip code exceptions, and that's their team. If they have some good players show up, they think, sure let's try division 1. Then they show up for a D1 game and get crushed by a team of 7 foot tall high school sophomores.

The other 10% of the coaches know they can get an extra exception from the league, recruit for player upgrades all year, do shady stuff with their player's eligibility knowing the league doesn't verify, etc.

[Anonymous]

The coach in that Fairfax Times article sounds like a real piece of work.

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Mclean basketball commissioner must be fine with shenanigans b/c it sounds like he had to deal with issues with the FCYBL and the 8th grade team all last winter and now he's signing up for a repeat of all that drama with another super-stacked team with kids of questionable residence & kids who should have moved on to high school leagues.

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Anonymous wrote:WOW that's crazy

That article demonstrates everything that's wrong with this league: Coach upset he has to abide by sportsmanship rules that HE AGREED TO when he entered the league. Rather than any sense of obligation of teaching kids sportsmanship. Coach thinking it's his scary coaching ability rather than complete mismatch in talent. Shadiness with reporting scores to avoid penalty. League commissioners putting head in sand and ignoring blatant rule violations that everyone else sees clearly. Zero address verification.

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What he is saying in the article doesn't even make sense which is how you know he is being dishonest.

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Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:WOW that's crazy

That article demonstrates everything that's wrong with this league: Coach upset he has to abide by sportsmanship rules that HE AGREED TO when he entered the league. Rather than any sense of obligation of teaching kids sportsmanship. Coach thinking it's his scary coaching ability rather than complete mismatch in talent. Shadiness with reporting scores to avoid penalty. League commissioners putting head in sand and ignoring blatant rule violations that everyone else sees clearly. Zero address verification.

To be fair, it sounds like the league did punish him for his team's behavior for at least for one game (the one the parent described above). And there is no evidence that they had more than 2 zip code exceptions as no one knows where all these kids live, or that the kids weren't technically in 8th grade (possibly 8th grade again but that's within the rules apparently).

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Anonymous wrote:WOW that's crazy

That article demonstrates everything that's wrong with this league: Coach upset he has to abide by sportsmanship rules that HE AGREED TO when he entered the league. Rather than any sense of obligation of teaching kids sportsmanship. Coach thinking it's his scary coaching ability rather than complete mismatch in talent. Shadiness with reporting scores to avoid penalty. League commissioners putting head in sand and ignoring blatant rule violations that everyone else sees clearly. Zero address verification.

To be fair, it sounds like the league did punish him for his team's behavior for at least for one game (the one the parent described above). And there is no evidence that they had more than 2 zip code exceptions as no one knows where all these kids live, or that the kids weren't technically in 8th grade (possibly 8th grade again but that's within the rules apparently).

Well I personally know of 5 kids in that photo and 3 weren’t living in a McLean eligible zip code.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WOW that's crazy

That article demonstrates everything that's wrong with this league: Coach upset he has to abide by sportsmanship rules that HE AGREED TO when he entered the league. Rather than any sense of obligation of teaching kids sportsmanship. Coach thinking it's his scary coaching ability rather than complete mismatch in talent. Shadiness with reporting scores to avoid penalty. League commissioners putting head in sand and ignoring blatant rule violations that everyone else sees clearly. Zero address verification.

To be fair, it sounds like the league did punish him for his team's behavior for at least for one game (the one the parent described above). And there is no evidence that they had more than 2 zip code exceptions as no one knows where all these kids live, or that the kids weren't technically in 8th grade (possibly 8th grade again but that's within the rules apparently).

Well I personally know of 5 kids in that photo and 3 weren’t living in a McLean eligible zip code.

The kid not shown, the assistant coach's kid, went to Katherine Johnson nowhere near Mclean. Sooooo he was one of their exceptions. So at least 4 kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

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Anonymous wrote:Any videos of these games online? How good were they? I'm honestly just curious as this point.

Coach sounds unhinged.

Here's the first quarter of a game against Vienna. Vienna was one of the better teams. Its customary in this league for a coach to call off the press once a team is up 20+. I didn't watch all the videos but Mclean was still pressing when the game was 53-20 and the clock was running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0MPru6xsc

Looks like the score is 25-4 at the end of Q1 and 40-13 at the half.

Kid jumping center was a reclass who was able to dominate the game.

That's the kid who the coach complained should have won league MVP.

Is it "reclassing" if a kid is just red-shirted? Like a summer birthday who starts K late? That is pretty common for boys.