Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Skyview should either have been a magnet or not opened until they had full extracurricular and sports programming. Opening it in a half ass state is what makes it unappealing to everyone not into aerospace and AI.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

That’s exactly what scenario 2 does to Oak Hill. Seems like an own goal to not have every kid at Skyview go to Carson.

Even better, every Carson kid go to Skyview.

They can’t. The capacity at Carson is too big to align with Skyview. There are 1350 seats at Carson, which yields 2700 high school students. The capacity of Skyview is only 2000. The distribution of middle school seats is too imbalanced across the western high schools to establish straight feeders. It’s poor planning, but it is what it is.

Won’t that change when Franklin gets AAP?

Currently, Carson gets around 300 AAP transfers. This allows its “ base” population to align with a 2000 seat Skyview. When the 300 AAP seats return to Franklin, it’ll blow up their current capacity maps.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

That’s exactly what scenario 2 does to Oak Hill. Seems like an own goal to not have every kid at Skyview go to Carson.

Even better, every Carson kid go to Skyview.

They can’t. The capacity at Carson is too big to align with Skyview. There are 1350 seats at Carson, which yields 2700 high school students. The capacity of Skyview is only 2000. The distribution of middle school seats is too imbalanced across the western high schools to establish straight feeders. It’s poor planning, but it is what it is.

Won’t that change when Franklin gets AAP?

Currently, Carson gets around 300 AAP transfers. This allows its “ base” population to align with a 2000 seat Skyview. When the 300 AAP seats return to Franklin, it’ll blow up their current capacity maps.

And that isn’t supposed to happen until 2029-2030.

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Anonymous wrote:Skyview should either have been a magnet or not opened until they had full extracurricular and sports programming. Opening it in a half ass state is what makes it unappealing to everyone not into aerospace and AI.

I’ve said this for many months. The roll-out of Skyview has been a case study in incompetence, just like the county-wide boundary study was.

Michelle Reid is the most inept superintendent FCPS has ever had, and it’s not even close.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

That’s exactly what scenario 2 does to Oak Hill. Seems like an own goal to not have every kid at Skyview go to Carson.

Even better, every Carson kid go to Skyview.

They can’t. The capacity at Carson is too big to align with Skyview. There are 1350 seats at Carson, which yields 2700 high school students. The capacity of Skyview is only 2000. The distribution of middle school seats is too imbalanced across the western high schools to establish straight feeders. It’s poor planning, but it is what it is.

Won’t that change when Franklin gets AAP?

Currently, Carson gets around 300 AAP transfers. This allows its “ base” population to align with a 2000 seat Skyview. When the 300 AAP seats return to Franklin, it’ll blow up their current capacity maps.

And that isn’t supposed to happen until 2029-2030.

And these boundary changes are intended for 2027-28. What’s the point of blowing up the middle school boundaries only to change them again 2 years later? That goes against 8130 policy, which advises against moving the same households more than once over a 3 year period.

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

The whole opt in and lack of desire to go there shows why it should be a magnet school....

What neighborhood “closest” to it does not want to go there? Franklin Farm?

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

The whole opt in and lack of desire to go there shows why it should be a magnet school....

What neighborhood “closest” to it does not want to go there? Franklin Farm?

Correct.

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

The whole opt in and lack of desire to go there shows why it should be a magnet school....

What neighborhood “closest” to it does not want to go there? Franklin Farm?

Correct.

Oak Hill and Floris are the closest. But FF/Crossfield is also close. Oak Hill would gladly stay at Chantilly, but are reasonable about this and understand that Skyview will be just fine, too.

[Anonymous]

FCPS has screwed this up royally. They should have waited a year to open Skyview. Got some major renovations done and released the boundaries a year and a half before the school opens with 1 single plan. Putting different scenarios out there only encourages people to complain more and hope they get what they want. By releasing them right away and opening the school later they would have had a much longer runway for people to accept the changes and the controversy would have died down. Instead they are trying to open a new school, without the building being ready, all the while arguing about what kids will eventually be placed there. Literally, the worst possible way to open a school.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has screwed this up royally. They should have waited a year to open Skyview. Got some major renovations done and released the boundaries a year and a half before the school opens with 1 single plan. Putting different scenarios out there only encourages people to complain more and hope they get what they want. By releasing them right away and opening the school later they would have had a much longer runway for people to accept the changes and the controversy would have died down. Instead they are trying to open a new school, without the building being ready, all the while arguing about what kids will eventually be placed there. Literally, the worst possible way to open a school.

Exactly. But we have one of the most incompetent superintendents and worst school boards in the country. There is absolutely nothing they don’t find a way to screw up.

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

The whole opt in and lack of desire to go there shows why it should be a magnet school....

Thats not true. They should have opened it when renovated with set boundaries and sports. Most kids deciding against it this year did it due to sports.

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Anonymous wrote:My suggestion, and I am not addressing the elementary school adjustments proposed by FCPS. They are whacky.

Skyview:
Coates
McNair
all of Floris
Crossfield minus Fox Mill Woods
Oak Hill

I realize much of Fox Mill wants Skyview, but I do not see Meren allowing that and it would reduce South Lakes too much.

Middle Schools
AAP in all middle schools would eliminate some of the imbalance.

Carson:
same as Skyview. Since Oak Hill already sends a lot of AAP kids there, it should not be overcrowded. Take out the AAP from Navy, Lees Corner, and Waples Mill(? does Waples Mill AAP go to Carson?) and this should allow for all of Oak Hill

Franklin:
Navy
Waples Mill
Lee's Corner

Questionable: should Fox Mill be sent to Hughes

I realize this takes kids across the street from Franklin to Carson, but, other than that, it would seem that all will be at the closest school--with the exception of Fox Mill which would remain at South Lakes. However, they are already assigned there and some of the neighborhood is just as close to South Lakes as Skyview.

Under no circumstance should Lee's Corner be sent to Westfield That is crazy. If Westfield needs more kids, then that area between Centreville/Walney Rd and 28 should go to Westfield and most of Bull Run. But, with the loss of Oak Hill, Chantilly should be fine without losing more students. Seems to me that the students should come from that area south of Westfield which would give it a more cohesive and contiguous student body.

No student should be going further away than currently.

Most of Bull Run is closer to CVHS where they are currently zoned to attend.

Your principle makes sense but doesn't work in the real world because:
(1) As someone pointed out previously, there aren't 2600 students who live closer to Westfield than any other HS. And
(2) The ES, middle school and high school capacities don't line up, so split feeders are inevitable.

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

The whole opt in and lack of desire to go there shows why it should be a magnet school....

Thats not true. They should have opened it when renovated with set boundaries and sports. Most kids deciding against it this year did it due to sports.

Yes, my son and several friends would have opted in, but no sports was a non-starter. It doesn't seem like a real high school to most of these kids, opening half-@ssed like this.

[Anonymous]

Do any of the three scenarios have the Rotted in Oakton people changing schools out of Oakton? Just curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle McDaniel was in my breakout group and said he would advocate to keep Lees Corner at Chantilly and address some of the other elementary school changes.

What are the other elementary school changes?

Va Run Neighborhood group is livid that they would consider sending kids out of the neighborhood school, for no actual purpose or reason. To these out of state consultants, they are just moving around numbers on a board.