Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:My suggestion, and I am not addressing the elementary school adjustments proposed by FCPS. They are whacky.

Skyview:
Coates
McNair
all of Floris
Crossfield minus Fox Mill Woods
Oak Hill

I realize much of Fox Mill wants Skyview, but I do not see Meren allowing that and it would reduce South Lakes too much.

Middle Schools
AAP in all middle schools would eliminate some of the imbalance.

Carson:
same as Skyview. Since Oak Hill already sends a lot of AAP kids there, it should not be overcrowded. Take out the AAP from Navy, Lees Corner, and Waples Mill(? does Waples Mill AAP go to Carson?) and this should allow for all of Oak Hill

Franklin:
Navy
Waples Mill
Lee's Corner

Questionable: should Fox Mill be sent to Hughes

I realize this takes kids across the street from Franklin to Carson, but, other than that, it would seem that all will be at the closest school--with the exception of Fox Mill which would remain at South Lakes. However, they are already assigned there and some of the neighborhood is just as close to South Lakes as Skyview.

Under no circumstance should Lee's Corner be sent to Westfield That is crazy. If Westfield needs more kids, then that area between Centreville/Walney Rd and 28 should go to Westfield and most of Bull Run. But, with the loss of Oak Hill, Chantilly should be fine without losing more students. Seems to me that the students should come from that area south of Westfield which would give it a more cohesive and contiguous student body.

No student should be going further away than currently.

Do you see the hypocrisy in your 2 statements?

Do you realize how close together Carson and Franklin are? Do you realize that lots of those kids currently go to Carson for AAP?

IMPORTANT FACT: Oak Hill Elementary, according to google maps, is 1.6 miles from Carson and 1.6 miles from Franklin. Likely a little more than half live closer to Carson--but not far from Franklin.
This is a REASONABLE exception--not hypocrisy. The alternative would be to split the elementary school and send half the kids to an elementary school that is much further away.

This is not like taking Lee's Corner and sending it from Chantilly to Westfield. Going from a mile to five miles through very heavy traffic. Of course, they could take the back route and drive past Chantilly to Poplar Tree Rd. Can't get much more stupid than that.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

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Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

A was the logical choice. I don't know about insiders at FCPS, but the Rooted in Oakton thing resulted in the mess we have before us.

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Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

A was the logical choice. I don't know about insiders at FCPS, but the Rooted in Oakton thing resulted in the mess we have before us.

Agree RIO has created a domino effect messing up the entire region. Perhaps this ridiculous exercise should reinforce the idea that the prior boundary maps were the correct ones.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

One only needs to look at Scenario 3 which has RIO folks going to Oakton but NONE of the neighborhoods between RIO and Oakton. Gee I wonder why??? Make it make sense FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

One only needs to look at Scenario 3 which has RIO folks going to Oakton but NONE of the neighborhoods between RIO and Oakton. Gee I wonder why??? Make it make sense FCPS.

I don't see that. Can you explain. Except for Navy, it looks pretty much the same as now.

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So basically Franklin Farm refusing to move to Skyview is what is causing this mess. Franklin Farm should be moved to Skyview period. It is closer.

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They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

One only needs to look at Scenario 3 which has RIO folks going to Oakton but NONE of the neighborhoods between RIO and Oakton. Gee I wonder why??? Make it make sense FCPS.

I don't see that. Can you explain. Except for Navy, it looks pretty much the same as now.

In scenario 3, every single Navy neighborhood except for RIO folks get moved out of Oakton. Yet, RIO is closer to at least two different high schools than any of those other neighborhoods and is the furthest away from Oakton. SLHS, Skyview are both closed for them.

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

That’s exactly what scenario 2 does to Oak Hill. Seems like an own goal to not have every kid at Skyview go to Carson.

Even better, every Carson kid go to Skyview.

They can’t. The capacity at Carson is too big to align with Skyview. There are 1350 seats at Carson, which yields 2700 high school students. The capacity of Skyview is only 2000. The distribution of middle school seats is too imbalanced across the western high schools to establish straight feeders. It’s poor planning, but it is what it is.

Won’t that change when Franklin gets AAP?

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

What's wrong with improving fairness through gerrymandering? The overwhelming majority of fairfax has no issue with that per the latest election.

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

One only needs to look at Scenario 3 which has RIO folks going to Oakton but NONE of the neighborhoods between RIO and Oakton. Gee I wonder why??? Make it make sense FCPS.

I don't see that. Can you explain. Except for Navy, it looks pretty much the same as now.

In scenario 3, every single Navy neighborhood except for RIO folks get moved out of Oakton. Yet, RIO is closer to at least two different high schools than any of those other neighborhoods and is the furthest away from Oakton. SLHS, Skyview are both closed for them.

+1 this is true. RIO is the furthest from Oakton HS. However, most Navy neighborhoods are actually closer to Chantilly HS, wouldn’t you agree?

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Anonymous wrote:They should never have bought Skyview. The neighborhood closest to it doesn’t want to go there. They should enable everyone alone and just make it opt in. All these changes are tearing us apart. Great job, Reid!

The whole opt in and lack of desire to go there shows why it should be a magnet school....

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Anonymous wrote:If Gatehouse or anyone from the consultant is reading this, if you send Crossfield to Skyview, you MUST also send them to Carson. Look at the maps!! You can't have Crossfiedl be the only school at Franklin that goes to Skyview. It's already so unfair that we're the only ones actually zoned to Carson that go to Oakton. Don't do that to us again. It needs to be Crossfield-Carson-Skyview OR Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. PLEASE ALIGN MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO HIGH SCHOOLS.

Crossfield should go to RC and Skyview.

I'm the person you're quoting. I'm fine with either option, but the middle schools need to be aligned. If they keep us at Oakton, then move us to Franklin. If they move us to Skyview, then keep us at Carson.

The Franklin Farms neighborhood that created the tree root website needs to just get over it. They are lucky they don't get redistricted to South Lakes. That neighborhood should be moved to Skyview, not moving Franklin Glen to Westfield - that is just ridiculous.

Franklin Glen is on to RIO’s tactics and they are not happy. They know it’s someone from Crossfield pulling strings with FCPS.

If you saw the meeting, you know these guys have no clue and haven't talked to anyone in any community. They like at blocks on a chart and that's it. You're giving rio too much credit

Come on. Someone told them to create scenarios that don't involve Crossfield moving to Oakton, despite it being an obvious logical choice. To achieve that goal they had to come up with some crazy moves elsewhere and figure out who would backfill Westfield.

Bingo! FCPS getting bullied and caving to RIO and crossfield. The consultants even said so much…that they were instructed not to bring back the prior maps. Why? Those maps were rooted in logic and not politics. Shame on FCPS for gerrymandering.

One only needs to look at Scenario 3 which has RIO folks going to Oakton but NONE of the neighborhoods between RIO and Oakton. Gee I wonder why??? Make it make sense FCPS.

I don't see that. Can you explain. Except for Navy, it looks pretty much the same as now.

In scenario 3, every single Navy neighborhood except for RIO folks get moved out of Oakton. Yet, RIO is closer to at least two different high schools than any of those other neighborhoods and is the furthest away from Oakton. SLHS, Skyview are both closed for them.

+1 this is true. RIO is the furthest from Oakton HS. However, most Navy neighborhoods are actually closer to Chantilly HS, wouldn’t you agree?

Furthest from oakton and furthest from Skyview!