Private School Lacrosse Thread

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

Given weather conditions, it just smacks of science.

Wouldn't the Holton sticks be the same way too? Why were the illegal sticks all Visi's? Why did Visi have an illegal stick in the game against Stone Ridge on Saturday, when it was sunny and in the 90's?

Assuming that there was a stick check that was passed on resumption, my guess is that the Visi sticks were closer to the line barely passing the stick check and the Holton sticks had a greater margin.

Very educated guess. You also have a Holton coach that knows the game well, which includes “the game within the game” – i.e., the rule book. She is dealing with a large 9-3 deficit at half, and 48 hours to think of any possible way to get her team back in the game. Perhaps she comes up with a strategy to use the allowed stick checks (2), after every goal, in hopes that the rain has stretched the Visi pockets enough to keep the goal off the board and give Holton possession of the ball (this includes having her own players be certain their sticks are tightened). Then until the Visi sticks pass two checks to use up her allowed requests, just keep asking to check sticks after every goal. Using stick checks to wipe goals and gain possession is a tactic used in big games, by all the top coaches in the sport - when they need every break they can get. You will see it in the college playoffs in every close game. Frankly, the only material impact the Visi sticks probably had on the scoreboard were the goals taken AWAY due to failure of the check.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

Given weather conditions, it just smacks of science.

Wouldn't the Holton sticks be the same way too? Why were the illegal sticks all Visi's? Why did Visi have an illegal stick in the game against Stone Ridge on Saturday, when it was sunny and in the 90's?

Assuming that there was a stick check that was passed on resumption, my guess is that the Visi sticks were closer to the line barely passing the stick check and the Holton sticks had a greater margin.

Yes. The Visi team has far more serious players who use their sticks all the time and the strings get stretched - its the end of a long season and the best players were playing all Winter, Fall and Summer last year too. Holton doesn't have nearly the number of serious players. Visi also didn't ask but for one or two stick checks Holton asked for them constantly. It was ridiculous. Slightly deeper pocket depth doesn't win championships.

This is nothing but Holton trying to cast shade on Visi's win. The truth is Holton just is not as good of a team. Holton's win over SSSAS was a fantastic moment but it doesnt mean the Holton team is a great team. Its a decent team that played their hearts out in that game and beat the odds. Any team can beat any other team once. Lets see how Holton does next year and the year after that.

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

Given weather conditions, it just smacks of science.

Wouldn't the Holton sticks be the same way too? Why were the illegal sticks all Visi's? Why did Visi have an illegal stick in the game against Stone Ridge on Saturday, when it was sunny and in the 90's?

Assuming that there was a stick check that was passed on resumption, my guess is that the Visi sticks were closer to the line barely passing the stick check and the Holton sticks had a greater margin.

Yes. The Visi team has far more serious players who use their sticks all the time and the strings get stretched - its the end of a long season and the best players were playing all Winter, Fall and Summer last year too. Holton doesn't have nearly the number of serious players. Visi also didn't ask but for one or two stick checks Holton asked for them constantly. It was ridiculous. Slightly deeper pocket depth doesn't win championships.

This is nothing but Holton trying to cast shade on Visi's win. The truth is Holton just is not as good of a team. Holton's win over SSSAS was a fantastic moment but it doesnt mean the Holton team is a great team. Its a decent team that played their hearts out in that game and beat the odds. Any team can beat any other team once. Lets see how Holton does next year and the year after that.

I get it now, Visi has much more serious players and is far more superior to Holton. They use their sticks so much more, which is why the strings are all stretched out. Holton doesn't have serious players, is mediocre and just lucked out by beating SSSAS. Got it. Whatever it is you're taking, please keep on taking it if it makes you feel better.

Visi only asked for 2 stick checks because they were only allowed 2 if the sticks came back clean, which they did. Holton was able to ask for more because they kept coming back illegal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

Given weather conditions, it just smacks of science.

Wouldn't the Holton sticks be the same way too? Why were the illegal sticks all Visi's? Why did Visi have an illegal stick in the game against Stone Ridge on Saturday, when it was sunny and in the 90's?

Assuming that there was a stick check that was passed on resumption, my guess is that the Visi sticks were closer to the line barely passing the stick check and the Holton sticks had a greater margin.

Yes. The Visi team has far more serious players who use their sticks all the time and the strings get stretched - its the end of a long season and the best players were playing all Winter, Fall and Summer last year too. Holton doesn't have nearly the number of serious players. Visi also didn't ask but for one or two stick checks Holton asked for them constantly. It was ridiculous. Slightly deeper pocket depth doesn't win championships.

This is nothing but Holton trying to cast shade on Visi's win. The truth is Holton just is not as good of a team. Holton's win over SSSAS was a fantastic moment but it doesnt mean the Holton team is a great team. Its a decent team that played their hearts out in that game and beat the odds. Any team can beat any other team once. Lets see how Holton does next year and the year after that.

I get it now, Visi has much more serious players and is far more superior to Holton. They use their sticks so much more, which is why the strings are all stretched out. Holton doesn't have serious players, is mediocre and just lucked out by beating SSSAS. Got it. Whatever it is you're taking, please keep on taking it if it makes you feel better.

Visi only asked for 2 stick checks because they were only allowed 2 if the sticks came back clean, which they did. Holton was able to ask for more because they kept coming back illegal.

NP here. That looks like cheating to a non biased observer. Illegal sticks are a huge advantage in women's lax. An illegal stick check should result in expulsion from the game and 2 goals for the non cheating side each time.

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I was at a game several years ago and the Bullis coach asked for a stick check. Are the boys rules the same, 2 per game if the stick is legal? And then unlimited if the stick keeps coming back illegal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

Given weather conditions, it just smacks of science.

Wouldn't the Holton sticks be the same way too? Why were the illegal sticks all Visi's? Why did Visi have an illegal stick in the game against Stone Ridge on Saturday, when it was sunny and in the 90's?

Assuming that there was a stick check that was passed on resumption, my guess is that the Visi sticks were closer to the line barely passing the stick check and the Holton sticks had a greater margin.

Very educated guess. You also have a Holton coach that knows the game well, which includes “the game within the game” – i.e., the rule book. She is dealing with a large 9-3 deficit at half, and 48 hours to think of any possible way to get her team back in the game. Perhaps she comes up with a strategy to use the allowed stick checks (2), after every goal, in hopes that the rain has stretched the Visi pockets enough to keep the goal off the board and give Holton possession of the ball (this includes having her own players be certain their sticks are tightened). Then until the Visi sticks pass two checks to use up her allowed requests, just keep asking to check sticks after every goal. Using stick checks to wipe goals and gain possession is a tactic used in big games, by all the top coaches in the sport - when they need every break they can get. You will see it in the college playoffs in every close game. Frankly, the only material impact the Visi sticks probably had on the scoreboard were the goals taken AWAY due to failure of the check.

Astute point. NCAA women's rules no provide for a stick check after each goal (I think at referee's discretion or opponent's request). This is why they hand the stick to the ref or drop it after scoring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

Given weather conditions, it just smacks of science.

Wouldn't the Holton sticks be the same way too? Why were the illegal sticks all Visi's? Why did Visi have an illegal stick in the game against Stone Ridge on Saturday, when it was sunny and in the 90's?

Assuming that there was a stick check that was passed on resumption, my guess is that the Visi sticks were closer to the line barely passing the stick check and the Holton sticks had a greater margin.

Yes. The Visi team has far more serious players who use their sticks all the time and the strings get stretched - its the end of a long season and the best players were playing all Winter, Fall and Summer last year too. Holton doesn't have nearly the number of serious players. Visi also didn't ask but for one or two stick checks Holton asked for them constantly. It was ridiculous. Slightly deeper pocket depth doesn't win championships.

This is nothing but Holton trying to cast shade on Visi's win. The truth is Holton just is not as good of a team. Holton's win over SSSAS was a fantastic moment but it doesnt mean the Holton team is a great team. Its a decent team that played their hearts out in that game and beat the odds. Any team can beat any other team once. Lets see how Holton does next year and the year after that.

I get it now, Visi has much more serious players and is far more superior to Holton. They use their sticks so much more, which is why the strings are all stretched out. Holton doesn't have serious players, is mediocre and just lucked out by beating SSSAS. Got it. Whatever it is you're taking, please keep on taking it if it makes you feel better.

Visi only asked for 2 stick checks because they were only allowed 2 if the sticks came back clean, which they did. Holton was able to ask for more because they kept coming back illegal.

NP here. That looks like cheating to a non biased observer. Illegal sticks are a huge advantage in women's lax. An illegal stick check should result in expulsion from the game and 2 goals for the non cheating side each time.

I think that is a bit harsh. Pockets do move during games. There is a thin line between legal and illegal. Disqualification and awarding goals to the opponent is harsh and ridiculous.

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Yeah but Prep is losing one of these "strong" kids. He flunked out but they let him stay to play out the year. Ethical ...?

This is somewhat true but what is even more pathetic is the Bullis coaching staff reached out to this family and offered the family to come to Bullis when they knew he was having academic trouble. Kudos to the family for telling Bullis to go kick rocks!

Talk about a complete joke over on Falls Road.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

The girls weren't posing with the illegal sticks, it was the COACH who said for them to put the illegal sticks front and center for the team picture.

She probably did it because it was petty of the other coach. Everyone thought that. Everyone! Holton parents can't be honestly proud of that? She was calling it on random people who didn't even score! And they still won despite the fact. God are you really trying to say that the coach taught them that? Holton you are so petty. Don't be a sore loser. Live off your SSSA win and let visitation have their moment.

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Could you give us a list of what other rules don't matter? Just so we know.

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Yeah but Prep is losing one of these "strong" kids. He flunked out but they let him stay to play out the year. Ethical ...?

This is somewhat true but what is even more pathetic is the Bullis coaching staff reached out to this family and offered the family to come to Bullis when they knew he was having academic trouble. Kudos to the family for telling Bullis to go kick rocks!

Talk about a complete joke over on Falls Road.

Will the player return to Prep and continue to be eligible??

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Anonymous wrote:Prep plays Culver in the Geico National over Memorial Day weekend and last year Prep played its best lacrosse at this event. Does Prep get it done or are they going to get worked by Culver?

Culver beat Gonzaga 12-8 and McDonough by a single goal in the regular season. So they aren't unbeatable.

But this isn't one of GPs stronger teams and the motivation would seem to be lacking. If the beat Culver they get a chance to play Hill which is a dubious honor.

Does anyone know if graduating seniors from these schools (2018's) will be playing in the GEICO tourney and whether there is an age cut-off (19 yrs old) like there are in some other HS tourneys?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

The girls weren't posing with the illegal sticks, it was the COACH who said for them to put the illegal sticks front and center for the team picture.

She probably did it because it was petty of the other coach. Everyone thought that. Everyone! Holton parents can't be honestly proud of that? She was calling it on random people who didn't even score! And they still won despite the fact. God are you really trying to say that the coach taught them that? Holton you are so petty. Don't be a sore loser. Live off your SSSA win and let visitation have their moment.

Yes, everyone did think it was petty. Trying to win a game on a technicality. Those refs really had to really study those sticks to decide if they were legal or not. Its that tiny of a margin. The ridiculous Holton parents braying in the stands were even more pathetic and petty. Holton was that desperate because they knew they couldn't win just by playing the game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's an illegal stick?

It means the pocket is deeper than regulation, and not allowed in girls lacrosse because it gives an unfair advantage. A deeper pocket means it’s much easier to keep in your stick,for one thing. Sticks are checked at the beginning of the game so if 4 girls had illegal pockets in one short half it was intentionally done most likely - you can rig it to appear legal for the ref check and then punch it back to be illegal again.

You clearly don’t understand how stuck checks for girls work. The refs actually put a ball in the pocket for a stick check. A pocket that is legal at the beginning of a game can, especially in rain, become stretched out and no longer be legal later in the game. It’s nit that unusual nor is it that big of a deal. Plus you are talking about a tiny difference. The pockets weren’t egregious just slightly too deep. I have no connection to Visi by the way.

And girls don’t “punch” their strings either - at least not girls who know what they are doing. That’s not how you work the strings in a girls stick.

Explain all you want but it smacks of cheating either way when four sticks were illegal in one half. And the point earlier about those girls posing with the illegal sticks post game just shows they were proud of flaunting the rules.

The girls weren't posing with the illegal sticks, it was the COACH who said for them to put the illegal sticks front and center for the team picture.

She probably did it because it was petty of the other coach. Everyone thought that. Everyone! Holton parents can't be honestly proud of that? She was calling it on random people who didn't even score! And they still won despite the fact. God are you really trying to say that the coach taught them that? Holton you are so petty. Don't be a sore loser. Live off your SSSA win and let visitation have their moment.

Yes, everyone did think it was petty. Trying to win a game on a technicality. Those refs really had to really study those sticks to decide if they were legal or not. Its that tiny of a margin. The ridiculous Holton parents braying in the stands were even more pathetic and petty. Holton was that desperate because they knew they couldn't win just by playing the game.

NOT A TECHNICALITY...It was multiple sticks. The 1st time OK, but by the 2nd and 3rd time, don't you think all of the girls should have tightened and then retightened their strings?
Shame on Visi for not making adjustments. Visi won and was the better team.

Move on, nothing left to be seen here

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Anonymous wrote:Madlax buying out Club Blue, and then tellong their Capital team that they will be now the B team.

Reason #4,534 never to play for Madlax or give that guy your money.

What years?

Is it just 2023? What happens to DMV 23's then?