Girls, 13 and 15, Charged With Murder After Armed Carjacking Near Nationals Park

[Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/agkarlracine/status/1375542605988134915?s=21

2 days ago, Racine tweets that he’s disgusted by acts of hate and yet throughout his Twitter feed no mention of this act of violence and stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you even read my post? I wrote the last 3 of them! I’m just saying she probably cares more about what her mom is going to say about her phone than the man laying in the street!

Many teens are addicted to their phones, it has nothing to do with what mom is going to say. I have a teen at home who carries her phone with her everywhere and worries if it goes missing for a minute.

[Anonymous]

The outrage on this thread should produce new laws in DC. There was no other outcome than this for repeat offenders. I take my daughter to Nats park all time and can imagine that this could be me.

[Anonymous]

“Hand over your car.”

“Just give them your wallet,”

“Don’t open your door.”

“Why were you walking there?”

“Don’t go there after dark.”

“You shouldn’t be in that part of town.”

“Why do you act like that. You’re such a racist.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Hand over your car.”

“Just give them your wallet,”

“Don’t open your door.”

“Why were you walking there?”

“Don’t go there after dark.”

“You shouldn’t be in that part of town.”

“Why do you act like that. You’re such a racist.”

Absolutely spot on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Because these girls clearly don’t give a damn about anyone. Laws need to change. Feral kids getting more dangerous by the day. They know they won’t be tried as adults.

+1. This is the George Floyd moment for the innocent people of DC. If an innocent family man cannot deliver food in broad daylight in a busy commercial district. Or, if a DC councilwoman cannot pick up her mocha latte at 1pm on one of the busiest streets in town. Then we’re all F’ed. Where’s the outrage? Where are the protests?

This is the whitest and most ridiculous comment I've seen regarding this incident.

Being killed by a local police officer who is paid to protect and serve is not the same as being killed by two carjackers who were swiftly arrested. That's why the level of outrage is not the same.

To the contrary, these girls did what they did partly because their leadership of their government has signaled to them that there is little consequence tor anti social behavior. And in many cases has seemed to encourage this behavior. I’d argue that this is worse than a few rogue police officers.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because these girls clearly don’t give a damn about anyone. Laws need to change. Feral kids getting more dangerous by the day. They know they won’t be tried as adults.

+1. This is the George Floyd moment for the innocent people of DC. If an innocent family man cannot deliver food in broad daylight in a busy commercial district. Or, if a DC councilwoman cannot pick up her mocha latte at 1pm on one of the busiest streets in town. Then we’re all F’ed. Where’s the outrage? Where are the protests?

This is the whitest and most ridiculous comment I've seen regarding this incident.

Being killed by a local police officer who is paid to protect and serve is not the same as being killed by two carjackers who were swiftly arrested. That's why the level of outrage is not the same.

To the contrary, these girls did what they did partly because their leadership of their government has signaled to them that there is little consequence tor anti social behavior. And in many cases has seemed to encourage this behavior. I’d argue that this is worse than a few rogue police officers.

Again, whitest and still most ridiculous comment. You are free to leave DC over the carjackings but I certainly don't want to live in a city where the police are strangling people in the streets and the entire globe has to protest before they are even arrested and charged.

NP. You are far more likely to lose your life in a robbery, a carjacking or by a stray bullet than a police officer. That’s the truth. There isn’t an epidemic of police officers “strangling people in the street” in DC. Meanwhile, there is an epidemic of carjackings which are up by 350% this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We've taken a lot out of our social fabric--prayer in school, Columbus Day, National Anthem. What have we put in that connects people, really? I have nothing against the taking something out if you put something in, but we haven't. Just a lot of lonely people on their phones out their and kids raising themselves apparently.

Weakest troll comment ever.

I would say more prayer is not to the answer and probably contributed to this tragedy. Organized religion and Christian prayer was used as a tool during slavery era to control and subdue slaves and to make them passively accept their plight. Christianity taught them to be obedient. Christianity also advocates for no birth control and keeping kids in the dark about sexuality. Essentially, sex is a sinful act unless it’s done in marriage. These kids are the legacy of Christian induced slavery, the legacy of poor family planning, poverty, and probably fatherless homes. All Christianity does is exacerbate problems. Instead of prayer and intangible efforts, how about funding programs to help alleviate the effects of the legacy of Christianity and slavery?

I'm sorry you had such a bad historical interaction with Christianity. The Christians I know are pretty cooll and contribute a lot to society. I am also totally in favor of the separation of church and state. With that being said, as a society we have stripped away so many of the ties that bind, the shared rituals, the coming together. I can think this has accelerated in the past ten years as every institution, routine, practice, touchstone, historical figure, holiday, rite etc has come under some sort of fire. You know the line of verse "things fall apart, the center cannot hold"? Perhaps THIS is what chaos and anarchy look like. Who knows, it will probably go full circle--hopefully not more restrictive. I feel like there was a good balance at some point that has been lost somehow. This is a charmless era.

[Anonymous]

The Second Coming
W. B. Yeats - 1865-1939

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really can't calm down. This really hit me to my core.

I teach kids in DC. I see it. All this Social Emotional Learning that we are engaged in, Restorative Justice...I believe in it. We work tirelessly and I mean tirelessly to support our students in every way possible. You don't see it, but I do. Every day. It's an uphill battle of enormous proportions and still I see the utter lack of disrespect.

It goes against what I'd like to believe but I still think these girls need to be locked up.

Have you considered that all this restorative justice, emotional learning is actually feeding this problem? If a person(s) has already killed someone before they reach adulthood, which sadly happens almost daily in DC, then maybe these aren't the people we should focus on.
At some point we need to throw out the garbage. Crime went down when Three strikes was law and criminals were in jail.

[Anonymous]

Thank you 15:00.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because these girls clearly don’t give a damn about anyone. Laws need to change. Feral kids getting more dangerous by the day. They know they won’t be tried as adults.

+1. This is the George Floyd moment for the innocent people of DC. If an innocent family man cannot deliver food in broad daylight in a busy commercial district. Or, if a DC councilwoman cannot pick up her mocha latte at 1pm on one of the busiest streets in town. Then we’re all F’ed. Where’s the outrage? Where are the protests?

This is the whitest and most ridiculous comment I've seen regarding this incident.

Being killed by a local police officer who is paid to protect and serve is not the same as being killed by two carjackers who were swiftly arrested. That's why the level of outrage is not the same.

To the contrary, these girls did what they did partly because their leadership of their government has signaled to them that there is little consequence tor anti social behavior. And in many cases has seemed to encourage this behavior. I’d argue that this is worse than a few rogue police officers.

Again, whitest and still most ridiculous comment. You are free to leave DC over the carjackings but I certainly don't want to live in a city where the police are strangling people in the streets and the entire globe has to protest before they are even arrested and charged.

NP. You are far more likely to lose your life in a robbery, a carjacking or by a stray bullet than a police officer. That’s the truth. There isn’t an epidemic of police officers “strangling people in the street” in DC. Meanwhile, there is an epidemic of carjackings which are up by 350% this year.

This.

[Anonymous]

Over $800,000 have been raised for Mohammed Anwar's family.

How much you wanna bet that the carjacking girls or the families are probably having feelings of envy, rather than remorse? And I'm not talking remorse for them being arrested, but remorse for the death of an innocent man that they are directly responsible for? Or even "merely" a carjacking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Over $800,000 have been raised for Mohammed Anwar's family.

How much you wanna bet that the carjacking girls or the families are probably having feelings of envy, rather than remorse? And I'm not talking remorse for them being arrested, but remorse for the death of an innocent man that they are directly responsible for? Or even "merely" a carjacking?

I don't know what they're feeling, but I'm truly happy for Mr. Anwar's 3 children, his grandchildren, and the rest of his family. Mr. Anwar has such a kind face, and it hurts to think of how he died when he was working hard at the age of 66, had moved here to provide for his family just 6 years ago, and did absolutely nothing wrong--a completely innocent victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I really can't calm down. This really hit me to my core.

I teach kids in DC. I see it. All this Social Emotional Learning that we are engaged in, Restorative Justice...I believe in it. We work tirelessly and I mean tirelessly to support our students in every way possible. You don't see it, but I do. Every day. It's an uphill battle of enormous proportions and still I see the utter lack of disrespect.

It goes against what I'd like to believe but I still think these girls need to be locked up.


Have you considered that all this restorative justice, emotional learning is actually feeding this problem? If a person(s) has already killed someone before they reach adulthood, which sadly happens almost daily in DC, then maybe these aren't the people we should focus on.
At some point we need to throw out the garbage. Crime went down when Three strikes was law and criminals were in jail.

This reminds me of an episode from the season of the Wire which focused on the Baltimore schools. One of the retired police captains want to volunteer in the schools and is working with a social scientist researcher who wants to work with high school kids. The captain grimly tells the researcher that the teen years are too late for effecting change, and takes him to interview a 15 yo who has just been arrested for a violent crime. Ten minutes of talking to the 15 yo ---who has zero remorse, empathy and is all about trying to effectuate revenge--convinces the social scientist that the former captain is correct, and they focus their intervention program on a local middle school instead. Even then, their ability to positively change the trajectory of the most troubled studies is extremely limited.

I don't think that a 13 yo should be locked up for life, but I definitely don't think DC's Youth Rehabilitation Act, as currently practiced, is good policy for either the juveniles or their victims. Honestly, sending these kids away to a military like environment of high structure/high nurture for 10-12 years---completely away from their home environments---is what is needed to repattern their behavior. Catch & Release with a few poorly attended social programs is useless.