Jogger Chased and Shot

[Anonymous]

I just want to know if anyone on this thread who is even weakly trying to justify the actions of the killers would be ok with any citizen anywhere who has a gun deciding they are going to go out with their guns to patrol your neighborhood? Are you saying you're good with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if anyone on this thread who is even weakly trying to justify the actions of the killers would be ok with any citizen anywhere who has a gun deciding they are going to go out with their guns to patrol your neighborhood? Are you saying you're good with that?

Oh my god, don't even bother. They will say they love it and they feel so safe and they will all worship at the altar of their arsenals. They would LOVE nothing more than to walk around all day with their idiot friends showing off their guns and shooting them off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if anyone on this thread who is even weakly trying to justify the actions of the killers would be ok with any citizen anywhere who has a gun deciding they are going to go out with their guns to patrol your neighborhood? Are you saying you're good with that?

Oh my god, don't even bother. They will say they love it and they feel so safe and they will all worship at the altar of their arsenals. They would LOVE nothing more than to walk around all day with their idiot friends showing off their guns and shooting them off.

Meant to add, I know this because I'm from nowhereville central florida and that was my entire youth.

[Anonymous]

Would they say the same if the patrol people were black?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if anyone on this thread who is even weakly trying to justify the actions of the killers would be ok with any citizen anywhere who has a gun deciding they are going to go out with their guns to patrol your neighborhood? Are you saying you're good with that?

Some people actually have critical thinking skills and learned not to make pre judgements based upon information currently available from the crazy media. At least you didn't resort to calling people racists because they disagree with you, so props to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would they say the same if the patrol people were black?

Of course not.

It wouldn't even be "news"

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Anonymous wrote:PP here: I should add I’m on team Arbery, I only posted the leaked letter because it explains the Georgia laws well.

That is the problem. This thread is full of people who view African Americans as being victims and will then play the game of twisting things to support their "team." Didn't we learn from previous cases that these encounters are rarely black and white?

It's kind of ironic because cops tend to do the same thing.

Have you noticed that any poster who brings up the fact that the jogger charged at the guy with the shotgun is called a racist. This is a key point because it is very difficult to fight someone that is trying to take a long gun. Your option at that point for an untrained person is to shoot the person or be killed by the person attempting to take your rifle. Ultimately, I hope these guys will be judged by their horrible judgement preceding the shooting.

You mean tried to take the gun away from And armed gunman who have been following him in a vehicle got out was aggressive towards him and in an attempt to try to save himself was engaged in a scuffle ?
are you crazy??
Somebody comes at you with a firearm and you’re actually going to try to somehow make the person defending themselves against a bullet at fault in anyway?

Looks like we have another Arbery "team" member incapable of critical thinking due to their emotional state and/or affiliation. Who said that he was at fault? It sounds like you don't know much about the law or tactics. If those yahoos would have shot him as he was running away, this would be a slam dunk murder charge. Right now, not so much.

What are you talking about? I’m the original PP and I am well-aware that Arbery had priors and grabbed a shotgun in a fight. But if you have any common sense, then you know that if the police had arrived at the scene and Arbery had patiently waited, they would have literally cited McMichael for brandishing a gun and let Arbery walk away because he didn’t steal anything. It’s ridiculous that two men can hold another at gun point for a “crime” they didn’t witness, regardless of their skin color.

You never wait patiently with somebody that is pointing a gun at you. We have had this training at work... YOUR RUN, then you fight!

You never ever ever let somebody hold you against your own will because they will most likely rape and kill you and cut you up in little pieces.

This. If you've had active shooter training, they tell you that if you can't run or hide, you fight. Someone points a gun at you at short range, you can't run (which is what Arbery did first) and you can't hide, so you fight. He was 100 percent justified in defending himself. You can't point a gun at someone and then claim self-defense when they don't just let you shoot them. These guys instigated the encounter and were the aggressors. He wasn't attacking them or anyone else. He tried to grab the gun away from someone who he probably thought was going to shoot him.

Please stop giving people bogus advice on tactics when you have no idea what you are talking about. This is not an active shooter situation, like not even close. Generally speaking, you comply when two guys are pointing long guns at you. The same thing goes for a robbery or if you just committed a crime and someone is attempting to detain you. When you try to disarm someone, you put them in a position where it's kill or he killed. This in no way places blame on the jogger, as he probably just reacted without thinking.

Not a runner, but a walker. White woman. There is NO EFFING WAY I am “complying” with three guys in two cars with guns if I have any other choice whatsoever.

You can choose to wait for the police, which they had already called, or you can fight them.

Pretty easy choice if you ask me, but you be you.

You want me to let 3 men abduct me and trust they called the police because they suspected I committed a crime when I know I had not.

You are insane and my LEO family would advise against letting anybody without a badge hold you at gun point ... unless you are into being raped and killed.

NP. It's amazing how the LE experts come out of the woodwork whenever a minority is shot by a white person. Every situation is different. Are you a 30 year old black man? Do you think they really wanted to rape him? Yes, you can chose to fight if you want. But in this case, that was a bad move. A move that resulted in his death.

This.

No LEO person would ever advise his son to behave the unfortunate way this young man did.

Some people have seen one too many action movies.

Absolutely a LEO parent would say never comply. Most kids are raped by a person in authority. You clearly are not a LEO ... LEO's know, you don't just let some random person take you into custody, NEVER.

Please give us LEO advice on how to disarm multiple adversaries with rifles. I was trained in some ninjitzu gun takeaway techniques years ago, but never used them in real life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if anyone on this thread who is even weakly trying to justify the actions of the killers would be ok with any citizen anywhere who has a gun deciding they are going to go out with their guns to patrol your neighborhood? Are you saying you're good with that?

Some people actually have critical thinking skills and learned not to make pre judgements based upon information currently available from the crazy media. At least you didn't resort to calling people racists because they disagree with you, so props to you.

Can you just answer the question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if anyone on this thread who is even weakly trying to justify the actions of the killers would be ok with any citizen anywhere who has a gun deciding they are going to go out with their guns to patrol your neighborhood? Are you saying you're good with that?

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[Anonymous]

Guy with no guns chooses to fight with people with guns.

He dies.

I frankly fail to see why this is news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guy with no guns chooses to fight with people with guns.

He dies.

I frankly fail to see why this is news.

Great. So if a woman is ambushed by 2 men with a gun, she should just politely go with them and do exactly what they tell her to do? Or does that rule apply only to men or more specifically young black men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guy with no guns chooses to fight with people with guns.

He dies.

I frankly fail to see why this is news.

3 white supremacist try to abduct a black man and he is murdered.

I frankly fail to see why this is in the news... book em, try them, hang them.

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Anonymous wrote:Guy with no guns chooses to fight with people with guns.

He dies.

I frankly fail to see why this is news.

3 white supremacist try to abduct a black man and he is murdered.

I frankly fail to see why this is in the news... book em, try them, hang them.

They should have been arrested immediately. So messed up on so many levels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guy with no guns chooses to fight with people with guns.

He dies.

I frankly fail to see why this is news.

Great. So if a woman is ambushed by 2 men with a gun, she should just politely go with them and do exactly what they tell her to do? Or does that rule apply only to men or more specifically young black men?

Let me understand your logic. You actually believe that someone is dumb enough to ambush someone with a gun and a shotgun? You actually believe that happened. Oh, and it was self defense because someone with a gun would feel like they are in danger against someone without a weapon? Oh, ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would they say the same if the patrol people were black?

Of course not.

It wouldn't even be "news"

You think it wouldn’t be “news” if two cars full of black men with guns were chasing a white guy around a neighborhood and then shot him?