Don't fly United

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Anonymous wrote:UNited said they were overbooked and tried to pay customers to change their flight - going up to $800 vouchers for United Flights. Ugh....should have been cash. Then they finally admitted they were not overbooked. They have to get 4 crew members to the new city for another flight out. So they bumped a paying passenger for their own employees. The way this man was chosen was the computer picked him and 2 others to be deplaned. He was a doctor and needed to get back. They went overboard. How horrible. I will never fly UNITED their treatment of passengers is horrible.

Actually United had refused to confirm the exact methodology used to select the man, was it 100% random (like winning a lottery) OR was it some sort of calculation based on your status (premium, gold, etc.), how much you paid for your ticket (free with points, upgrade with points, full freight), how often you fly United (frequent flier), how likely you will fly United in the near future, and where is your seat (first vs business vs coach). I've read several reports that United has been asked to confirm how this man was selected and they have repeatedly refused to disclose their calculation. It's not as if they put all the names in a hat and just draw one out so to speak. And I think United's refusals to disclose shouldn't be ignored.

You're exactly right.

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Anonymous wrote:A better video of it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JayseDavid/status/851223662976004096/video/1

I can't see this page anymore. Hmmmmmm.

Link works for me.

Yep. It works. Horrible, horrible!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Atlantic article said the cap is $1350; somebody would have taken it at that price.

Why is there a cap anyway? Is it some law to protect the airline?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you the CEO of united?

No, probably not even a go for.

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There will be a Saturday Night Live skit. Fly the friendly skies indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:United is a private company. The plane is their private property. They have the right to kick ANYONE, at any time, off of their plane. Period.

Go do your home work.

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Anonymous wrote:The Atlantic article said the cap is $1350; somebody would have taken it at that price.

Why is there a cap anyway? Is it some law to protect the airline?

Probably a regulation - which some people here think we need more of.

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Anonymous wrote:I was once on a United flight out of the Dulles in 2000 (so pre 9/11) that was supposed to be a red eye to Europe, plane boarded and then nothing happened. the crew mysteriously disappeared. The crew abandoned the plane and "walked off" in a labor dispute, leaving hundreds of passengers on board absolutely clueless what to do or what was going on. We didn't know if they were coming back, who was in charge, were we supposed to get off. Someone started smoking and another person literally broke into the food in the back and started passing it around. Back then people didn't really have cell phones. At midnightt police boarded the plane. at 2am the flight was originally cancelled and we were allowed off the plane into the terminal. It was a cluster F of all cluster fs. United got vans and drove all of us to a hotel about a mile away and had to make a special flight for us the next day at 11am (which is a really random time to leave on a flight like that, they are always red eyes). I will never forget that United crew left an airplane with the passengers. I assume after 9/11 this would never happen. But it never ceases to amaze me the dumb shit United does. I would rather deal with Spirit Air than United any day.

Not Spirit! I could not get a live person to talk to us. Fucking airlines.

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Anonymous wrote:The Atlantic article said the cap is $1350; somebody would have taken it at that price.

Why is there a cap anyway? Is it some law to protect the airline?

Probably a regulation - which some people here think we need more of.

The $1,350. cap was pushed through by very powerful airline lobbyists.

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Anonymous wrote:United is done.

Agreed. This will be crippling if not finish them off.

I doubt it. United has contracts with many large companies (like the one I work for) no company is breaking a contract over this.
So spend your dollars where you choose (which you have every right to do) but I seriously doubt this is going to be the end of United.

If you're so sure of yourself, who do you work for?
...So we can boycott you to!

Maybe he is trying out his arguements so he can clerk for Neil Gorsuch?

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Anonymous wrote:I keep thinking that the guy was lucky he was not black. They'd probably shot him.

Some black thug was among those dragging the man out of his paid-for seat.

You missed the point

He missed the whole airport.

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Anonymous wrote:The Atlantic article said the cap is $1350; somebody would have taken it at that price.

Why is there a cap anyway? Is it some law to protect the airline?

Probably a regulation - which some people here think we need more of.

No, airlines have been in a race to the bottom since they were deregulated 35-40 years ago. If they're all going to be bumping people from flights, would you choose the airline that compensates $500 or $5k?

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Anonymous wrote:United is done.

Agreed. This will be crippling if not finish them off.

I doubt it. United has contracts with many large companies (like the one I work for) no company is breaking a contract over this.
So spend your dollars where you choose (which you have every right to do) but I seriously doubt this is going to be the end of United.

If you're so sure of yourself, who do you work for?
...So we can boycott you to!

Maybe he is trying out his arguements so he can clerk for Neil Gorsuch?

FYI, the United Airlines CEO is a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:The Atlantic article said the cap is $1350; somebody would have taken it at that price.

Why is there a cap anyway? Is it some law to protect the airline?

Probably a regulation - which some people here think we need more of.

No, airlines have been in a race to the bottom since they were deregulated 35-40 years ago. If they're all going to be bumping people from flights, would you choose the airline that compensates $500 or $5k?

And yet, they still need Fly America. If they're going to keep that, they should be re-regulated. Clearly they can't manage themselves

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Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre.
https://twitter.com/Tyler_Bridges/status/851228695360663552

The guy who got dragged out returns to the flight and is running around like a chicken mumbling " I have to go home". This guy is suppose to be a doctor?

What the what is that?!?! How do you get on after being dragged off by police??

OMFG, you cannot be this dense.

Maybe this is why they had to act how they acted? Maybe, rather than being a kind-hearted physician, he actually was a threat to other passengers.

This obviously occurred before he was extricated from his seat, which is starting to seem slightly more justified.

Karma is a bitch. I hope something like this happens to you and you get beat the shit out of you by a corporation.

This is why it's so disturbing. This is exactly it. An amoral not-human corporation essentially beat up an old guy because he expected to get what he paid for. This wasn't someone getting angry, losing their cool, having an emotional response. This was an officer of the law brutalizing a man because a corporation didn't want to spend more money than it had to, to get its flight crew in place for the next day. This is the biggest part of the problem, and why we should all be horrified and fight back.