Med student allegedly inappropriate with female patient and commits suicide after disciplinary action

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Maybe if he thought something else was going to come out. But otherwise, almost certainly would have been a slap on the wrist, maybe a remedial ethics seminar.

The problem is clearly the delay, not the "slap on the wrist" which is interesting because the crazy poster is dead certain he was raping women left and right in his rotation. The delay would have caused him to fail the rotation.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Not if his side was all lies, which it sounds like it was. The dean is taking him at face value before any investigation. The investigation was likely going to uncover he's an unethical compulsive liar and this wasn't the first lapse.

It's like a plagiarism hearing in undergrad. If a kid is 100% honest they'll go easy on them the first time. Maybe just probation or a semester suspension. If you dig a hole lying to the professor, dept. chair and dean from the get-go, they won't hesitate to expel you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

All of that was done before the hearing and investigation. He didn't have a chance to tell his side.

He had a meeting with the dean and the hearing. Those were both chances to tell his side.

No. He was given a future date for the hearing and sidelined until that time. For 18 days.

The email specifically said they were going to try to convene it earlier if possible. Being suspended for 18 days also simply isn't worth killing yourself over.

It probably works a little different in this situation than the grocery store you work in.

So this poster has officially moved into the "insult other posters" stage of trolling.

Says the freak who keeps coming up with new insults for a dead student. Why are you so angry?

You seem to think you're only talking to one person here. You're not. Pointing out that the woman who reported him did nothing wrong and the school was following a reasonable procedure is not insulting the guy.

We can all see what's being posted here.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Not if his side was all lies, which it sounds like it was. The dean is taking him at face value before any investigation. The investigation was likely going to uncover he's an unethical compulsive liar and this wasn't the first lapse.

It's like a plagiarism hearing in undergrad. If a kid is 100% honest they'll go easy on them the first time. Maybe just probation or a semester suspension. If you dig a hole lying to the professor, dept. chair and dean from the get-go, they won't hesitate to expel you.

A guilty conscience is a different story.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Maybe if he thought something else was going to come out. But otherwise, almost certainly would have been a slap on the wrist, maybe a remedial ethics seminar.

The problem is clearly the delay, not the "slap on the wrist" which is interesting because the crazy poster is dead certain he was raping women left and right in his rotation. The delay would have caused him to fail the rotation.

Nobody used such charged language or made any insinuation. But a massive lawsuit liability? Absolutely. Michigan State University had to take out a bond to pay $500 million in sexual assault claims for 332 Dr. Larry Nassar victims. A serial sex pest doc can bankrupt a health system and permanently destroy their reputation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/larry-nassar-michigan-state-settlement

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Not if his side was all lies, which it sounds like it was. The dean is taking him at face value before any investigation. The investigation was likely going to uncover he's an unethical compulsive liar and this wasn't the first lapse.

It's like a plagiarism hearing in undergrad. If a kid is 100% honest they'll go easy on them the first time. Maybe just probation or a semester suspension. If you dig a hole lying to the professor, dept. chair and dean from the get-go, they won't hesitate to expel you.

Yes the thing is that this should have been very very easy to figure out what actually happened here because there was a third party in the room with him, the nurse practitioner. Now had he lied to rhe Dean about how it went down he definitely would have been in worse trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Maybe if he thought something else was going to come out. But otherwise, almost certainly would have been a slap on the wrist, maybe a remedial ethics seminar.

The problem is clearly the delay, not the "slap on the wrist" which is interesting because the crazy poster is dead certain he was raping women left and right in his rotation. The delay would have caused him to fail the rotation.

Nobody used such charged language or made any insinuation. But a massive lawsuit liability? Absolutely. Michigan State University had to take out a bond to pay $500 million in sexual assault claims for 332 Dr. Larry Nassar victims. A serial sex pest doc can bankrupt a health system and permanently destroy their reputation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/larry-nassar-michigan-state-settlement

What was meant when this guy was compared to Larry Nasser?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Not if his side was all lies, which it sounds like it was. The dean is taking him at face value before any investigation. The investigation was likely going to uncover he's an unethical compulsive liar and this wasn't the first lapse.

It's like a plagiarism hearing in undergrad. If a kid is 100% honest they'll go easy on them the first time. Maybe just probation or a semester suspension. If you dig a hole lying to the professor, dept. chair and dean from the get-go, they won't hesitate to expel you.

Yes the thing is that this should have been very very easy to figure out what actually happened here because there was a third party in the room with him, the nurse practitioner. Now had he lied to rhe Dean about how it went down he definitely would have been in worse trouble.

The nurse who gave him "exceeds expectations" on that very day.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m impressed a young 20 something knows what or when to report something. Interesting.

Sounds like someone should see her since she's a nurse can complain about her treatment. Payback.

You're part of the problem.

Lol. If I'm the patient I deserve to be comfortable at all costs. If careers are destroyed, oopses! My bad.

"A woman voiced discomfort and provided documentation of inappropriate behavior! We should destroy.her!"

And we wonder why only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported.

There is only one dead person here. And it's not the complainer.

He killed himself. No one handed him a gun.

The school might as well have.

Nope. We aren’t going to shield people from consequences just in case they might be suicidal. They have to face the music.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Nobody is saying he didn't have to face the music so keep making things up.

He was suspended, counseled on professionalism, referred to mental health services, given documentation, and had not yet had his hearing. What exactly did the school do wrong here?

Dragging out the hearing for 18 days. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for. The process is the punishment. The school knew exactly what it was doing.

Relax Vivek. He would have gotten away with it if he hadn't wimped out.

+1. He totally would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Like I said before, no coping skills.

Not if his side was all lies, which it sounds like it was. The dean is taking him at face value before any investigation. The investigation was likely going to uncover he's an unethical compulsive liar and this wasn't the first lapse.

It's like a plagiarism hearing in undergrad. If a kid is 100% honest they'll go easy on them the first time. Maybe just probation or a semester suspension. If you dig a hole lying to the professor, dept. chair and dean from the get-go, they won't hesitate to expel you.

Yes the thing is that this should have been very very easy to figure out what actually happened here because there was a third party in the room with him, the nurse practitioner. Now had he lied to rhe Dean about how it went down he definitely would have been in worse trouble.

The nurse who gave him "exceeds expectations" on that very day.

All the more reason he should have felt confident he’d be exonerated.