Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant

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Anonymous wrote:What Judge Xinis is banking on is that the government does not want to spend two weeks in discovery. Two big things can happen:

(1) They just make the call and get him back

(2) They spend two weeks creating a public record of their own screw-ups and then get sanctioned and then hope he is still alive and get him back.

God forbid he gets killed in prison, the backlash will be tremendous. It is already brewing.


Not really. With all due respect, she has to tread very carefully so as not to violate separation of powers. The Supreme Court has already admonished the district court (albeit politely). If the district court does it again through pursuing discovery to compel executive actions, that will not be a good look. This entire situation turns on the word "facilitate"

Perhaps the contract with El Salvador allows the US to ask for the return of someone improperly deported there. Even if it does, that may be of little use if the El Salvador government determines that such return would violate itsn own laws


She is allowing discovery to determine what was done to facilitate his return. Failing to answer that as the administration (and you) have done is not a good look, as you say.


She's free to do that, within the bounds of separation of powers.


There is no separation of powers issue in asking information about whether the government is complying with the order. SCOTUS itself told the government to provide that information. Stop being stupid.



Again, she can order discovery, but if the goal is to impose contempt if the US Government doesn't exercise its Article II powers, that's a problem.

Serious question. If the President of El Salvador has refused to release him, what more can the judge order that doesn't violate separation of powers? Perhaps discovery may reveal that the US has a contractual right to ask for his return. But the El Salvador Government has already said no. One of the reasons given by the El Salvador Government is that the man is a member of MS-13, which has been deemed a foreign terrorist organization by the US. Is the judge going to order the President of the US to lift that declaration for him?


You don’t seem to understand the basic concept that you are using to argue your BS point. Even the executive branch needs to follow the law. Why do you think this is not the case?


They did not follow the law. The issue at this point is how to fix it? Courts cannot order the President's foreign policy.
Right now, DOJ is focused on protecting the President's authority rather than fixing this guy's incorrect deportation.
So far it has been assumed that the government is paying El Salvador for his imprisonment, but this might not be the case. The payments are for Venezuelans.


Van Hollen says that he asked the VP of El Salvador why his government continues to hold Abrego Garcia even though he’s not charged with any crime and there’s no evidence that he’s MS-13.

“His answer was that the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador to keep him at CECOT”
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Anonymous wrote:Lets let a minor judge dictate foreign policy...lol

this another one of those 90/10 issues where liberals are the 10% supporting a criminal with ties to MS13 who likes to beat women and get arrested.

Good luck with that strategy Cotton


Actually, lol, there are lots more "minor judges" overseeing cases involving the Trump administration so buckle up buttercup, lol.

"As of April 2025, the Trump administration is facing at least 194 legal challenges, according to a litigation tracker maintained by Just Security. These lawsuits encompass a wide array of issues, including immigration policies, executive orders, civil rights, and administrative procedures."
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Anonymous wrote:Lets let a minor judge dictate foreign policy...lol

this another one of those 90/10 issues where liberals are the 10% supporting a criminal with ties to MS13 who likes to beat women and get arrested.

Good luck with that strategy Cotton


Minor judge?

He is the chief judge of the US District Court, the second highest court in the USA.

And he isn't dictating foreign policy, he is calling balls and strikes on the letter of the law, and Trump is failing.
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Anonymous wrote:Lets let a minor judge dictate foreign policy...lol

this another one of those 90/10 issues where liberals are the 10% supporting a criminal with ties to MS13 who likes to beat women and get arrested.

Good luck with that strategy Cotton


Actually, lol, there are lots more "minor judges" overseeing cases involving the Trump administration so buckle up buttercup, lol.

"As of April 2025, the Trump administration is facing at least 194 legal challenges, according to a litigation tracker maintained by Just Security. These lawsuits encompass a wide array of issues, including immigration policies, executive orders, civil rights, and administrative procedures."


Wow. I can tell the President is really concerned about all these cases
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think Senator Van Hollen will have any luck?

He will get a good photo op.
Interesting that he's willing to go to El Salvador to stage a photo op in front of a prison holding a presumed gang member and illegal migrant. Yet, he refused to stand for Laken Riley's family.


You mean like MAGA congressman Riley Moore did yesterday?



OMG, what’s with the thumbs up in front of prisoners? Is there a single MAGA/GOP with a shred of decency?
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For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did no one except Chesapeake Today disclose that a domestic violence claimed was filed by his wife in 2021?! Seems highly relevant!

Link to Maryland court docs is in their report.

“Jennifer Vasquez filed for a protective order due to domestic violence from her husband on May 13, 2021, and a final order was issued on June 17, 2021, by Prince George’s County District Court Judge LaKeecia Allen.”


Wow so she is probably secretly glad to be rid of him….

I am sure she voted for Trump in hopes her husband will be deported.
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.


It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.


It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.


Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:Lets let a minor judge dictate foreign policy...lol

this another one of those 90/10 issues where liberals are the 10% supporting a criminal with ties to MS13 who likes to beat women and get arrested.

Good luck with that strategy Cotton


A Federal judge is not a minor judge. In fact no judge is a minor judge as their opinions are binding until overturned on appeal.

You are an idiot.
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.


It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.


Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.


Hardly ridiculous as trump as already said he is looking into sending US citizens to El Salvador.

Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't make it a 5 legged dog..
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.


It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.


Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.


He was granted a withholding of removal.
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.


It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.


Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen. That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.


He was granted a withholding of removal.


On what grounds? Normally, withholding is a protection from deportation that prevents the U.S. government from sending an individual to a country where their life or freedom would be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. Which of these grounds were the basis for his withholding?
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who continue to claim this man was MS-13 based upon a PG county detective's interview sheet and a "confidential informant" from New York where he'd never been, note the officer who did the interview and upon whose claims this was all based was indicted weeks after the interview for disclosing secret information in exchange for sex.

Here is the PG County Press release.

https://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2020/06/grand-jury-indicts-suspended-officer.html

Still want to rely upon that guy as your witness?


Yes. The judge deemed the informant trustworthy in this case as did the appeals board. What happened later doesn’t discount this case.

This wasn’t a trial. You don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone was in a gang. He was deportable anyway because he entered illegally and didn’t claim amnesty for years - not until he was picked up in 2019.

Garcia didn’t even pushback at the time on the allegation.


It was illegal for the Trump administration to deport him to El Salvador. If they will do it to him, they will do it to others. They dgaf whose lives they destroy. And neither do you until it is your family that is impacted. This is a test case for them to deport whoever they don't like. They've even said they want to deport us citizens to this place and no they are not joking.


Governments aren’t perfect and mistakes happen.
That’s the reality. Garcia had a removal order, that was not rescinded. He is not eligible to remain in the US regardless.

And no, they aren’t “coming after” citizens, how absolutely ridiculous.
Very true. But what is the remedy you propose when their mistake costs freedom? Or is blatantly unlawful? Or violently dispenses with the Constitution (and any 1st year law student could see the government's action here is violative of due process)?

Do you propose we just forget about it? That's the government's position. They don't even want a Mullgan.
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