Boundary study (2025 )

[Anonymous]

Woodward is essentially finished and they had to start building Crown to get the land. So that ship has sailed.

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

DP. But why is that? What does the town's incorporation have to do with it when it's a county school district?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

DP. But why is that? What does the town's incorporation have to do with it when it's a county school district?

Why does an incorporated community want to be a community? Why is the sky blue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

DP. But why is that? What does the town's incorporation have to do with it when it's a county school district?

Why does an incorporated community want to be a community? Why is the sky blue?

Can't they all be a community together in the Einstein cluster, which is by far their closest HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there schools that are not included in the boundary study? If you care about using all your capacity, and not having to devote huge capital to building new schools, wouldnt you want to be sure to use 90-95 percent of your inventory?

If Sherwood, Paint Branch or Springbrook are not at full capacity, it would seem those boundaries need to grow to fill available seats.

Any seats MCPS fills in those schools impacts the boundaries to their west and south.

I dont understand why every school isnt being included in the boundary evaluation.

I'm not sure we should be building two new HS with the demographic cliff coming.

The demographic cliff is not coming fast enough in these areas with new development. WJ and Blair are the two biggest HSs in Maryland, over 3000 kids, and both significantly overcrowded.

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

DP. But why is that? What does the town's incorporation have to do with it when it's a county school district?

Why does an incorporated community want to be a community? Why is the sky blue?

Can't they all be a community together in the Einstein cluster, which is by far their closest HS?

Einstein is also crowded, as are most of the schools in the DCC. So it doesn't make sense to add the Town or any other students.

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

DP. But why is that? What does the town's incorporation have to do with it when it's a county school district?

Why does an incorporated community want to be a community? Why is the sky blue?

Can't they all be a community together in the Einstein cluster, which is by far their closest HS?

Einstein is also crowded, as are most of the schools in the DCC. So it doesn't make sense to add the Town or any other students.

Reassign Woodlin and Highland, and then there should be room for TOK.

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

Agree with the bold part.

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Anonymous wrote:Woodward/WJ are likely to look like somewhere in between current WJ and Einstein when it comes to student test scores.

I am predicating it because you got to add couple of DCC elementaries to WJ/Woodward.

One whitman elementary can be also added to WJ -> One BCC elemntary moves to Whitman --> One DCC elementary moves to BCC

It will probably be bulk WJ students as its a smaller school and WJ sizing.

How many excess students in WJ?

What's the capcity of Woodward?

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

but that is not happening today -- see GHS and RM.

Good point and something I learned from this conversation.

My reference point was the MSPS BoE notes from 2000 when they made the decision to align all of the incorporated town of Kensington to the KP-NB-WJ cluster. In the documented discussion the point was made that Kensington was the only town in MoCo not already assigned to a single HS cluster. Maybe at that time they were differentiating "town" vs "city".

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Anonymous wrote:Some Einstein should shift to WJ, specifically the area closest to Beach Drive. I’d then move TOK within walking parameters to Einstein. Some of Einstein may go to Wheaton also.

Students in that area are currently walkers to Einstein. I don't think they'll be rezoned.

Yeah, I would say the only Einstein-zoned area that is absolutely safe from being moved is the Rock View ES catchment. All of those kids are relatively close-in walkers to Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:Woodward/WJ are likely to look like somewhere in between current WJ and Einstein when it comes to student test scores.

I am predicating it because you got to add couple of DCC elementaries to WJ/Woodward.

One whitman elementary can be also added to WJ -> One BCC elemntary moves to Whitman --> One DCC elementary moves to BCC

It will probably be bulk WJ students as its a smaller school and WJ sizing.

How many excess students in WJ?

What's the capcity of Woodward?

If you look it up on the MCPS CIP, https://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP26_Chapter4Johnson.pdf

You'll see that the current enrollment of WJ is listed as 3012 with capacity of 2251. So they are currently over by 761 students. Next year the projection is 3048 and over 797 students. The projections are usually under the actual enrollment.

If half move over to Woodward (capacity 2249), each school should have 1510-1520 ish students and spaces for about 700 new kids. Hopefully MCPS, if they have the seats after the new builds and rebuild of Northwood, won't pack every school in the area to the gills in the redistricting, because new development and neighborhood turnover won't stop.

[Anonymous]

Other than Tilden likely moving from WJ to Woodward, what changes are people predicting for the various middle schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Other than Tilden likely moving from WJ to Woodward, what changes are people predicting for the various middle schools?

I'm not sure what will be done but the Rockville/Gaithersburg/North Potomac middle school boundaries are a mess.

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Anonymous wrote:For Woodward: Kensington should be split between Einstein and B-CC. Absolutely no reason to be going to WJ from Kensington especially with a new high school opening even closer. Woodward can take north of Tuckerman and off of Montrose like Luxmanor and Garrett Park.

For Crown: All of Crown, everything surrounding Crown (Rio, Diamondback), maybe a portion of King Farm, maybe small portion of Gaithersburg that goes to NorthWest can go to Crown. No reason to touch Wootton district TBH.

This would make Kensington the only incorporated Town in MoCo with split clusters.

Who cares re incorporated or not. Bethesda students go to 1 of 3 HS already. Woodward would make 4.

Bethesda is not incorporated. The point is the community within an incorporated town often want their collective students to attend the same schools, whether you agree with that or not.

but that is not happening today -- see GHS and RM.

Good point and something I learned from this conversation.

My reference point was the MSPS BoE notes from 2000 when they made the decision to align all of the incorporated town of Kensington to the KP-NB-WJ cluster. In the documented discussion the point was made that Kensington was the only town in MoCo not already assigned to a single HS cluster. Maybe at that time they were differentiating "town" vs "city".

Well then, the entire incorporated Town Of Kensington could go to the only high school actually located in Kensington, which is Einstein. But their point was never some vague sense of town unity. It was to be part of the schools in the next town over — Bethesda — because they’re richer.