UMD College Park Results thread

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Anonymous wrote:I am really surprised by some of the rejects people have posted. My DS got in, as I expected he would, for Fall and selective major. Most of his friends from midrange non W MCPS public also got in (although not sure if FC or not, didn’t ask, didn’t tell). It must be somewhat of an advantage to come from a lower performing school? Maybe these kids went test optional but pretty sure they didn’t break 1300 and are in calculus now, senior year and only had a few APs. Mixed messages. I guess just count my blessings….

Usually 50% of those who apply get in from my kid’s W school. What percentage of kids get in from your non W school?

Sorry, what is a a W/non W school? Thanks

It’s used as shorthand for the higher SES high schools in MCPS - Whitman, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Winston Churchill.

And Watkins Mill

LOL!!! This made me smile. I went to a school in the county similar to WM and laugh at the superiority complex of the typical W schools. Get over yourselves!

It is funny…and to give it a name like “The W’s.” It’s really funny…

+1 the W’s are like the Wannabes…no advantage over other MCPS schools…too funny

Who said they did?

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Anonymous wrote:I am really surprised by some of the rejects people have posted. My DS got in, as I expected he would, for Fall and selective major. Most of his friends from midrange non W MCPS public also got in (although not sure if FC or not, didn’t ask, didn’t tell). It must be somewhat of an advantage to come from a lower performing school? Maybe these kids went test optional but pretty sure they didn’t break 1300 and are in calculus now, senior year and only had a few APs. Mixed messages. I guess just count my blessings….

Usually 50% of those who apply get in from my kid’s W school. What percentage of kids get in from your non W school?

Sorry, what is a a W/non W school? Thanks

It’s used as shorthand for the higher SES high schools in MCPS - Whitman, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Winston Churchill.

And Watkins Mill

LOL!!! This made me smile. I went to a school in the county similar to WM and laugh at the superiority complex of the typical W schools. Get over yourselves!

It is funny…and to give it a name like “The W’s.” It’s really funny…

+1 the W’s are like the Wannabes…no advantage over other MCPS schools…too funny

Who said they did?

The Wannabes did

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Anonymous wrote:I am really surprised by some of the rejects people have posted. My DS got in, as I expected he would, for Fall and selective major. Most of his friends from midrange non W MCPS public also got in (although not sure if FC or not, didn’t ask, didn’t tell). It must be somewhat of an advantage to come from a lower performing school? Maybe these kids went test optional but pretty sure they didn’t break 1300 and are in calculus now, senior year and only had a few APs. Mixed messages. I guess just count my blessings….

Usually 50% of those who apply get in from my kid’s W school. What percentage of kids get in from your non W school?

Sorry, what is a a W/non W school? Thanks

It’s used as shorthand for the higher SES high schools in MCPS - Whitman, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Winston Churchill.

And Watkins Mill

LOL!!! This made me smile. I went to a school in the county similar to WM and laugh at the superiority complex of the typical W schools. Get over yourselves!

It is funny…and to give it a name like “The W’s.” It’s really funny…

+1 the W’s are like the Wannabes…no advantage over other MCPS schools…too funny

Who said they did?

The Wannabes did

So people who go to schools other than W schools want the W school people to be wannabes?

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Anonymous wrote:I am really surprised by some of the rejects people have posted. My DS got in, as I expected he would, for Fall and selective major. Most of his friends from midrange non W MCPS public also got in (although not sure if FC or not, didn’t ask, didn’t tell). It must be somewhat of an advantage to come from a lower performing school? Maybe these kids went test optional but pretty sure they didn’t break 1300 and are in calculus now, senior year and only had a few APs. Mixed messages. I guess just count my blessings….

Usually 50% of those who apply get in from my kid’s W school. What percentage of kids get in from your non W school?

Sorry, what is a a W/non W school? Thanks

It’s used as shorthand for the higher SES high schools in MCPS - Whitman, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Winston Churchill.

And Watkins Mill

LOL!!! This made me smile. I went to a school in the county similar to WM and laugh at the superiority complex of the typical W schools. Get over yourselves!

It is funny…and to give it a name like “The W’s.” It’s really funny…

+1 the W’s are like the Wannabes…no advantage over other MCPS schools…too funny

Who said they did?

The Wannabes did

So people who go to schools other than W schools want the W school people to be wannabes?

Hahahaha, “the W schools” - too funny…

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Fking idiots

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In state, legacy, 1400 SAT, 3.7 uw, 4.3 w
I am so pissed.

To add: applied Arts & Sciences

I’m a professor at UMD, a liberal arts department. This is bonkers to me. There is no way that some of the students I have in intro courses could have these high school grades and stats. Some of them can barely write a coherent paragraph.

Not even a Spring admit?

I'm sorry, but a 4.3 is not hard to get in MCPS, if that is the school district.

She's not in MCPS. What's wrong with those grades?

I suspected. Is she in a private? Our kid coming from a Catholic HS could not compete with the GPAs coming out of public schools, and was rejected by UMCP.

Yes, Catholic HS

OK, that puts the weighted GPA in context. How many AP classes? Did your DD apply to a specific major or just general Arts and Sciences? It's just hard to figure out exactly why your DD didn't get in without more specifics. Many of the Catholic high schools in the D.C. suburbs have highly tracked classes. Was your DD on the highest track? Do you know how many students from DD's class applied? What kind of yield rate does the high school have for UMD? (Do students generally use UMD as a backup or do a high percentage actually attend if admitted?). I'm trying to figure out if your DD is a shining star on the highest track of a big Catholic high school or if DD attends a small Catholic HS with few AP's. If DD had the opportunity to take many AP's but didn't, that's a red flag. Ditto for an IB program, if that's available.

7 APs. General Arts & Sciences. Yes, highest track. No, don't know how many others applied. Don't know what yield rate but Naviance made it seem likely. No IB program available. Anyway, I'm over it but no longer interested in cheering for the Terps.

I'm sorry, PP. I truly hope that your daughter lands in a place where she really blooms. She has a lot going for her. Anecdotally, it may be helpful for students to actually declare a major at a large public like UMD and to have demonstrated interest in that major. My DD sincerely picked a more unusual major at UMD and had coursework and activities to back up the interest. I really believe that made her a stronger candidate to UMD. When a student doesn't apply with a specific major in mind, UMD might fear that the student is really interested in CS, Engineering, or Business like 90% (I'm exaggerating) of its other applicants.

I believe you are mistaken in your assumption. The school doesn’t admit based on major. They admit to the school and then the major admits. Your chances for admission at UMD don’t increase because of a “unique “ major. Kids change their majors all the time. In fact lots of kids who apply for engineering get admitted for L&S.

Did someone in the admissions office tell you that declared major doesn't matter for admissions? Why do you think so many talented, high SAT and high GPA kids interested in engineering or CS get pushed off to Spring Admission? Kids who are clearly academically qualified and don't have SAT scores that will drag UMD's stats down? I think this is UMD's method for decreasing the number of students in those popular majors. The students who are really enthusiastic about UMD will enroll anyway, but some who are not as enthusiastic will enroll elsewhere.

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I'm not the person whose kid you are denigrating, but you are a pompous ass.

stating facts is now equal to being a pompous a$$? I got those numbers from the school website. Sorry it hurt your feelings. Or maybe we should all be telling alternate facts and numbers.

You got the 1500 as a median SAT for MoCo IB students from what school's website? From RM's? Obviously all MCPS students do not have a median score of 1500 on their SATs, so why does this applicant with 1440 get compared only to the 1500 median for some of the IB students? Do you work in UMCP admissions? And you're not hurting my feelings at all.

Maybe you need to re-read the entire thread... start from the very top... "IB diploma"... this student is an IB student, that's why I mentioned IB student scores.

I'm just a parent, and yes, my kid is in the IB program, and I am aware of some of their SAT scores through my kid.

Lemme get this straight: you quoted a 1500 SAT as median for the IB program, and it turns out you know "some SAT scores through your kid." That is not data. You seem to be intent on being unhelpful and you are making claims based on hearsay. Please get a hobby.

1500 SAT is considered low in MCPS IB, kids got 1500 would retake

+1 good gracious... I got the 1500 from the school website. If I only look at DC's friends, the median would be more like 1550 or 1560. I only mentioned DC and friends as examples.

Why are people so defensive about this? I'm just stating what the numbers show.

Because you're being careless with your claims. You are saying 1500 is considered low in MCPS IB. It's NOT in MCPS IB. You're talking about the IB magnet program at ONE school, Richard Montgomery, which is a very very small, very competitive IB program which takes students from the whole county. Other high schools have regular IB programs, which are NOT the same as RM. They are not competitive to get into (though the classes are demanding), and any kids can participate in them. You'd expect RMIB to have a high median SAT score, because kids had to test even to get INTO the program. It's only high-achieving kids who test well (and many who have parents who send them to test-prep programs.)

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Can we get back on topic?

My DC got into the honors college and wants to major in physics. I am thrilled and think UMD would absolutely be the best choice for him (their physics dept ranks 14 in the country on at least one ranking I saw.) But he doesn't want to go to school so close to home. I'm biting my tongue for now, till we see where else he gets in, and how much aid he's offered. But it will be hard not to pressure him to go to UMD even if can afford the other schools (with help from his grandparents) because it really makes sense to choose the less expensive option. Interested in hearing people's experience with the honors college. (Seems he has to submit his preferences as to which one he wants to be in. We know little about them.)

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Anonymous wrote:Spring Admission - In state - 32 ACT and 3.8 UW with 7 APs. Internship, sports. Very dissapointed. Trying to decide what to do now.

Congrats! Why disappointed Spring is still a yes just a semester late

+1. Agree. This student was admitted! Hooray! (And spring admission does not seem to be a "setback", as my neighbor's son is doing that now, and he is living in the dorm and functioning as a fall admit.)

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Anonymous wrote:Spring Admission - In state - 32 ACT and 3.8 UW with 7 APs. Internship, sports. Very dissapointed. Trying to decide what to do now.

Congrats! Why disappointed Spring is still a yes just a semester late

+1. Agree. This student was admitted! Hooray! (And spring admission does not seem to be a "setback", as my neighbor's son is doing that now, and he is living in the dorm and functioning as a fall admit.)

Spring admits can still take classes in fall semester. there are a few restrictions to follow but it's not really semester behind. Also, it's not how you start, it's how you finish 4 years later.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we get back on topic?

My DC got into the honors college and wants to major in physics. I am thrilled and think UMD would absolutely be the best choice for him (their physics dept ranks 14 in the country on at least one ranking I saw.) But he doesn't want to go to school so close to home. I'm biting my tongue for now, till we see where else he gets in, and how much aid he's offered. But it will be hard not to pressure him to go to UMD even if can afford the other schools (with help from his grandparents) because it really makes sense to choose the less expensive option. Interested in hearing people's experience with the honors college. (Seems he has to submit his preferences as to which one he wants to be in. We know little about them.)

Yes, I am trying to get DD excited too. The Honors Colleges look terrific. But, she really wants to go somewhere different. I get that. Right now, this is her only acceptance (rejected SCEA), but hopefully there will be others in RD. The challenge will be if UMD offers a Banneker/Key or a bunch of merit. I've told her the money is hers. If she saves it by going to UMD, she can have it for grad school. But, she is welcome to invest it in another experience if she gets accepted. We should get some aid at top schools, so we'll see if she has a happy problem.

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Because you're being careless with your claims. You are saying 1500 is considered low in MCPS IB. It's NOT in MCPS IB. You're talking about the IB magnet program at ONE school, Richard Montgomery, which is a very very small, very competitive IB program which takes students from the whole county. Other high schools have regular IB programs, which are NOT the same as RM. They are not competitive to get into (though the classes are demanding), and any kids can participate in them. You'd expect RMIB to have a high median SAT score, because kids had to test even to get INTO the program. It's only high-achieving kids who test well (and many who have parents who send them to test-prep programs.)

shrug.. I don't know what the other IB diploma students SAT scores are since, as you said, they don't publish them. So, I can only go by what RMIB publishes. But, colleges do compare a student to their cohort, whether that be county, specific HS, or IB diploma graudates. If the student has an IB diploma, that would indicate that the student is pretty high achieving.

Also, many non magnet students also go to test prep program, and many manget students do not go to test prep programs. Neither my RMIB kid nor their friends did. They did take several of the free online SAT practice tests via the college board and khan academy. Who's to say that the prior poster's IB kid didn't go to a test prep tutoring program?

FWIW, my kid has never gone to an after school tutoring program, neither has my other DC who is not in a magnet and doesn't want to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Spring Admission - In state - 32 ACT and 3.8 UW with 7 APs. Internship, sports. Very dissapointed. Trying to decide what to do now.

Congrats! Why disappointed Spring is still a yes just a semester late

+1. Agree. This student was admitted! Hooray! (And spring admission does not seem to be a "setback", as my neighbor's son is doing that now, and he is living in the dorm and functioning as a fall admit.)

Spring admits can still take classes in fall semester. there are a few restrictions to follow but it's not really semester behind. Also, it's not how you start, it's how you finish 4 years later.

Congratulations! This is all very good. Please do not be disappointed because this is a blessing. My neighbor's son started at UMD in Spring and he used the one semester before to get a sales job. Ended with a business degree. Today he is raking in $$$$$ in tech sales. He credits his first job as being instrumental in opening the path for him.

Besides, you have a great chance of keeping an eye on COVID spread. Do you know how many people are actually deferring their colleges because they do not want to be stuck in a dorm doing remote learning?

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Anonymous wrote:Can we get back on topic?

My DC got into the honors college and wants to major in physics. I am thrilled and think UMD would absolutely be the best choice for him (their physics dept ranks 14 in the country on at least one ranking I saw.) But he doesn't want to go to school so close to home. I'm biting my tongue for now, till we see where else he gets in, and how much aid he's offered. But it will be hard not to pressure him to go to UMD even if can afford the other schools (with help from his grandparents) because it really makes sense to choose the less expensive option. Interested in hearing people's experience with the honors college. (Seems he has to submit his preferences as to which one he wants to be in. We know little about them.)

Yes, I am trying to get DD excited too. The Honors Colleges look terrific. But, she really wants to go somewhere different. I get that. Right now, this is her only acceptance (rejected SCEA), but hopefully there will be others in RD. The challenge will be if UMD offers a Banneker/Key or a bunch of merit. I've told her the money is hers. If she saves it by going to UMD, she can have it for grad school. But, she is welcome to invest it in another experience if she gets accepted. We should get some aid at top schools, so we'll see if she has a happy problem.

I agree it's very hard to turn down an acceptance to the honors colleges. The savings itself is already a no brainer, and the colleges will have highly motivated, very smart students with a great future ahead of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. In state, legacy, 1400 SAT, 3.7 uw, 4.3 w
I am so pissed.

To add: applied Arts & Sciences

I’m a professor at UMD, a liberal arts department. This is bonkers to me. There is no way that some of the students I have in intro courses could have these high school grades and stats. Some of them can barely write a coherent paragraph.

Not even a Spring admit?

I'm sorry, but a 4.3 is not hard to get in MCPS, if that is the school district.

She's not in MCPS. What's wrong with those grades?

I suspected. Is she in a private? Our kid coming from a Catholic HS could not compete with the GPAs coming out of public schools, and was rejected by UMCP.

Yes, Catholic HS

OK, that puts the weighted GPA in context. How many AP classes? Did your DD apply to a specific major or just general Arts and Sciences? It's just hard to figure out exactly why your DD didn't get in without more specifics. Many of the Catholic high schools in the D.C. suburbs have highly tracked classes. Was your DD on the highest track? Do you know how many students from DD's class applied? What kind of yield rate does the high school have for UMD? (Do students generally use UMD as a backup or do a high percentage actually attend if admitted?). I'm trying to figure out if your DD is a shining star on the highest track of a big Catholic high school or if DD attends a small Catholic HS with few AP's. If DD had the opportunity to take many AP's but didn't, that's a red flag. Ditto for an IB program, if that's available.

7 APs. General Arts & Sciences. Yes, highest track. No, don't know how many others applied. Don't know what yield rate but Naviance made it seem likely. No IB program available. Anyway, I'm over it but no longer interested in cheering for the Terps.

I'm sorry, PP. I truly hope that your daughter lands in a place where she really blooms. She has a lot going for her. Anecdotally, it may be helpful for students to actually declare a major at a large public like UMD and to have demonstrated interest in that major. My DD sincerely picked a more unusual major at UMD and had coursework and activities to back up the interest. I really believe that made her a stronger candidate to UMD. When a student doesn't apply with a specific major in mind, UMD might fear that the student is really interested in CS, Engineering, or Business like 90% (I'm exaggerating) of its other applicants.

I believe you are mistaken in your assumption. The school doesn’t admit based on major. They admit to the school and then the major admits. Your chances for admission at UMD don’t increase because of a “unique “ major. Kids change their majors all the time. In fact lots of kids who apply for engineering get admitted for L&S.

Did someone in the admissions office tell you that declared major doesn't matter for admissions? Why do you think so many talented, high SAT and high GPA kids interested in engineering or CS get pushed off to Spring Admission? Kids who are clearly academically qualified and don't have SAT scores that will drag UMD's stats down? I think this is UMD's method for decreasing the number of students in those popular majors. The students who are really enthusiastic about UMD will enroll anyway, but some who are not as enthusiastic will enroll elsewhere.

They let them into L&S for Fall.