UMD College Park Results thread

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I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

Not everyone from CAP magnet gets in. I know a few who have been denied.

Anyone know approximately what percentage of Blair CAP kids get accepted to UMCP?

No. But if you look at Blair’s Naviance, it’s pretty clear what GPA and test scores are needed.

DD just got accepted into Blair CAP so we don’t have access to Blair Naviance. For now DD wants to stay in state for college so we’re debating if he has a better chance of getting accepted into UMCP at our home HS or at Blair CAP.

CAP is a great program. Kids that do well in CAP have lots of college choices and are well prepared.

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From Blair, most but not all kids with over a 1440 SAT and 4.4 weighted GPA are admitted. Also some below that but above that is where you want to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a school counselor that umd received over 55,000 applications this year. As a result many kids didn’t get in or got spring admit. Apparently, parents were furious and calling our school counselors about this.

What can the counselors do about it? What school are you at?

Mcps W high school

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a school counselor that umd received over 55,000 applications this year. As a result many kids didn’t get in or got spring admit. Apparently, parents were furious and calling our school counselors about this.

What can the counselors do about it? What school are you at?

Mcps W high school

All of the colleges are reporting insanely record years of applications. This isn't just a UMD situation that we are facing.

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According to the published 2021 data, the increase in applications is from OOS applicants. OOS application almost doubled to 32k. Blame Common!

https://www.usmd.edu/IRIS/DataJournal/Applications/?report=UG-Applicants-First-Time-Admission

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^Common App

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I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

Not everyone from CAP magnet gets in. I know a few who have been denied.

Anyone know approximately what percentage of Blair CAP kids get accepted to UMCP?

No. But if you look at Blair’s Naviance, it’s pretty clear what GPA and test scores are needed.

DD just got accepted into Blair CAP so we don’t have access to Blair Naviance. For now DD wants to stay in state for college so we’re debating if he has a better chance of getting accepted into UMCP at our home HS or at Blair CAP.

You are overthinking this. If your son likes the CAP curriculum and doesn't mind commuting to Blair, then he should do it. Otherwise stay at home school. No MCPS school is going to give you an advantage or disadvantage in college admissions. If your kid wants a spot at UMCP, they need to focus on getting good grades (mostly A's) and taking honors and ap classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a school counselor that umd received over 55,000 applications this year. As a result many kids didn’t get in or got spring admit. Apparently, parents were furious and calling our school counselors about this.

What can the counselors do about it? What school are you at?

Mcps W high school

All of the colleges are reporting insanely record years of applications. This isn't just a UMD situation that we are facing.

Yes but it’s frustrating for those who thought umd was an easy/definite admit or a safety

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody know what is the lowest SAT to include with application before deciding to do test optional?

I don’t know but I’m seeing a lot of red in Naviance around the 1350-1380 range, when kids got in with 1250s just a few years ago. Did anyone here get accepted with below a submitted 1380?

DS had a 1060 but didn’t submit

And he got accepted?

Yes. Into scholars program and his desired (not LEP) major.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a school counselor that umd received over 55,000 applications this year. As a result many kids didn’t get in or got spring admit. Apparently, parents were furious and calling our school counselors about this.

What can the counselors do about it? What school are you at?

Mcps W high school

All of the colleges are reporting insanely record years of applications. This isn't just a UMD situation that we are facing.

Yes but it’s frustrating for those who thought umd was an easy/definite admit or a safety

UMD has not been a definite admit for some time. Maybe people just weren't following that until they had a kid of college age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the published 2021 data, the increase in applications is from OOS applicants. OOS application almost doubled to 32k. Blame Common!

https://www.usmd.edu/IRIS/DataJournal/Applications/?report=UG-Applicants-First-Time-Admission

So 32,617 of the 50,306 applications in 2021 were from OOS?! That's nuts. Clearly, UMD's on the map.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the published 2021 data, the increase in applications is from OOS applicants. OOS application almost doubled to 32k. Blame Common!

https://www.usmd.edu/IRIS/DataJournal/Applications/?report=UG-Applicants-First-Time-Admission

The common application first started in 1975 but on a small scale. It went into wide use in 2007. The common app is not driving this situation. It's the test optional policy that's in place everywhere that is driving the number of applications. It's being driven by applicants who would not have applied if they had to present a SAT score.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a school counselor that umd received over 55,000 applications this year. As a result many kids didn’t get in or got spring admit. Apparently, parents were furious and calling our school counselors about this.

What can the counselors do about it? What school are you at?

Mcps W high school

All of the colleges are reporting insanely record years of applications. This isn't just a UMD situation that we are facing.

Yes but it’s frustrating for those who thought umd was an easy/definite admit or a safety

UMD has not been a definite admit for some time. Maybe people just weren't following that until they had a kid of college age.

Snyone in my age range (graduating in the 80's or early 90's) knows that UMD took anyone with a pulse and high school diploma. So sad, but really true. It's really only been that past 20 years that UMD upped their game and became selective in choosing applicants.

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It wasn't hard to get into UMCP a few decades ago, but it was hard to graduate from there in CS or engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a school counselor that umd received over 55,000 applications this year. As a result many kids didn’t get in or got spring admit. Apparently, parents were furious and calling our school counselors about this.

What can the counselors do about it? What school are you at?

Mcps W high school

All of the colleges are reporting insanely record years of applications. This isn't just a UMD situation that we are facing.

Yes but it’s frustrating for those who thought umd was an easy/definite admit or a safety

UMD has not been a definite admit for some time. Maybe people just weren't following that until they had a kid of college age.

Snyone in my age range (graduating in the 80's or early 90's) knows that UMD took anyone with a pulse and high school diploma. So sad, but really true. It's really only been that past 20 years that UMD upped their game and became selective in choosing applicants.

Why is giving more kids an opportunity to get a quality education sad? Why not have public colleges be open to you know - the public.