Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Fifteen minutes later, Magalhães called 911 again, prosecutors said. Clingan suggested the delay was so that Banfield could stage the scene, including repacking Ryan’s backpack and placing the knife Ryan brought to the house on the floor between Ryan and Christine Banfield.

Also from WP link above. Was it explicitly stated anywhere that JR's knife was the one used to stab CB or was it just part of staging? Bc otherwise she could have been stabbed earlier. Would be hard to fully clean up and not leave blood traces in car when going for his McMuffin though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I’m finding it fascinating what theories people are willing to entertain and which ones they say are victim blaming/shaming and wildly inappropriate.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I don’t have theories, but I’ve asked the same questions you have and was told that I was derailing the conversation 🙄

The ones who want to baselessly speculate about CB in ways that are similar to BB's agenda don't like the brutal killings to be discussed, only victim smearing speculation. Just ignore and as Jeff says, don't feed the trolls. The victim smearing did not work re: LE or Commonwealth, nothing else matters. A jury will be horrified by the facts of the KILLINGS. And that a little girl was left with no mommy.

[Anonymous]

Virginia prosecutors contended that Ryan was shot not standing over Christine with a knife, but instead in the corner of the bedroom and was likely kneeling.

This is such a key detail, all the talk of websites and fetishes is continued attempted misdirection by the defense. All of the statements of AP's lawyer, paid for by BB's mom, are desperate attempts to blow air into their failed narrative. Blood spatter evidence is real.

RIP Joe and Christine. I hope your little one grows up with your family and with the love of her prior AP.

[Anonymous]

The one bite Egg McMuffin will live in infamy.

[Anonymous]

When the say cameras will be allowed, does that mean it’ll be broadcasted live? And where at? Sorry, first time following something like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When the say cameras will be allowed, does that mean it’ll be broadcasted live? And where at? Sorry, first time following something like this.

Court TV asked for permission and it was granted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

there are MANY possibilities not involving drugs -- I can only imagine some...

Maybe CB was in the shower when BB and JM forced JR at gunpoint to go into the bedroom and shot him, then they surprised CB.
Maybe they had guns on CB and JR from the start and it happened so fast that CB didn't struggle b/c she was begging them to stop.

Who knows ! That is why we are all trying to come up with explanations of how BB switched out his gun for a knife and attacked CB. While drugging CB is a possibility that we can imagine, there isn't any evidence of that, and most likely, the police would have mentioned that a woman was drugged and killed if that had been part of the evidence. It's not 100% that they would have given that out, but it's more likely than not that it would have been mentioned, and it wasn't. So, the more likely scenario is that CB was over-powered somehow.

There is no evidence of drugging. period.

[Anonymous]

You are the one making this weird.

For most people, the brutal cold blooded killing of 2 human beings over $, basically, and control, is pretty darn "weird" - ymmv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

there are MANY possibilities not involving drugs -- I can only imagine some...

Maybe CB was in the shower when BB and JM forced JR at gunpoint to go into the bedroom and shot him, then they surprised CB.
Maybe they had guns on CB and JR from the start and it happened so fast that CB didn't struggle b/c she was begging them to stop.

Who knows ! That is why we are all trying to come up with explanations of how BB switched out his gun for a knife and attacked CB. While drugging CB is a possibility that we can imagine, there isn't any evidence of that, and most likely, the police would have mentioned that a woman was drugged and killed if that had been part of the evidence. It's not 100% that they would have given that out, but it's more likely than not that it would have been mentioned, and it wasn't. So, the more likely scenario is that CB was over-powered somehow.

There is no evidence of drugging. period.

Forensics have not been released or discussed in detail so your vehemence is pretty wacked at this time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I’m finding it fascinating what theories people are willing to entertain and which ones they say are victim blaming/shaming and wildly inappropriate.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

I don’t have theories, but I’ve asked the same questions you have and was told that I was derailing the conversation 🙄

The ones who want to baselessly speculate about CB in ways that are similar to BB's agenda don't like the brutal killings to be discussed, only victim smearing speculation. Just ignore and as Jeff says, don't feed the trolls. The victim smearing did not work re: LE or Commonwealth, nothing else matters. A jury will be horrified by the facts of the KILLINGS. And that a little girl was left with no mommy.

It isn't baseless speculation. There are many reasons why there is valid speculation into what CB knew of JR prior to the morning of the murder:
-The account was created on her computer
-JR talked to someone he thought was CB
-A friend of JR said he was planning to meet a couple he had previously met. JR was sent a picture of CB so he knew what she looked like
-There was likely a time when CB and JR were in the house prior to BB arriving. This would have been easier to manage if CR was expecting JR
-There have been NO reports of CB being drugged

We are all here speculating, including you. You don't get to draw the line on what is OK and your speculation isn't more acceptable than anyone else's because you end it with faux concern for the victim's families.

[Anonymous]

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Fifteen minutes later, Magalhães called 911 again, prosecutors said. Clingan suggested the delay was so that Banfield could stage the scene, including repacking Ryan’s backpack and placing the knife Ryan brought to the house on the floor between Ryan and Christine Banfield.

Also from WP link above. Was it explicitly stated anywhere that JR's knife was the one used to stab CB or was it just part of staging? Bc otherwise she could have been stabbed earlier. Would be hard to fully clean up and not leave blood traces in car when going for his McMuffin though.

PLEASE try to keep up.

The prosecutor said that CB was killed very soon AFTER JR was shot twice. And yes, the prosecutor said that BB used the knife that JR brought to stab/cut CB.

Let go of the idea that CB was killed earlier in the morning before JR arrived. That has been found to be a false narrative with the recent information.

[Anonymous]

When the paramedics arrived, was the little girl still in the basement all by herself!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Fifteen minutes later, Magalhães called 911 again, prosecutors said. Clingan suggested the delay was so that Banfield could stage the scene, including repacking Ryan’s backpack and placing the knife Ryan brought to the house on the floor between Ryan and Christine Banfield.

Also from WP link above. Was it explicitly stated anywhere that JR's knife was the one used to stab CB or was it just part of staging? Bc otherwise she could have been stabbed earlier. Would be hard to fully clean up and not leave blood traces in car when going for his McMuffin though.

PLEASE try to keep up.

The prosecutor said that CB was killed very soon AFTER JR was shot twice. And yes, the prosecutor said that BB used the knife that JR brought to stab/cut CB.

Let go of the idea that CB was killed earlier in the morning before JR arrived. That has been found to be a false narrative with the recent information.

There is no reason to be rude to all of these posters. Your writing style is quite obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The one thing that certain PPs keep asserting without ANY evidence from police is that CB was drugged.

That's a HUGE leap from what is publicly known. All the other hypotheses about who was where and who did what are based on the pieces of evidence that we know. But, the whole premise that she was drugged is entirely unsupported despite recent international events.

The strongest theories of the case account for CB's whereabouts and actions without adding drugs into the theory.

It best accounts for no signs of struggle or defensive actions or wounds to BB as she fought for her life.

What else explains?

Very simple to do. Then only 1 victim to overpower.

What are your theories as to where she was?

Why do you think there were no signs of struggle?

Why do you think there were no scratches to BB as CB fought for her life?

there are MANY possibilities not involving drugs -- I can only imagine some...

Maybe CB was in the shower when BB and JM forced JR at gunpoint to go into the bedroom and shot him, then they surprised CB.
Maybe they had guns on CB and JR from the start and it happened so fast that CB didn't struggle b/c she was begging them to stop.

Who knows ! That is why we are all trying to come up with explanations of how BB switched out his gun for a knife and attacked CB. While drugging CB is a possibility that we can imagine, there isn't any evidence of that, and most likely, the police would have mentioned that a woman was drugged and killed if that had been part of the evidence. It's not 100% that they would have given that out, but it's more likely than not that it would have been mentioned, and it wasn't. So, the more likely scenario is that CB was over-powered somehow.

There is no evidence of drugging. period.

People fight for their lives, instinctively. No mentioned scratches on BB, ripped nails, skin under nails, etc. Scratches to him would have been in early stories, well before forensics came back. When someone comes at you with a knife you try to hold them off. Unless there is a reason you can't.

Unless you work for the Commonwealth, in which case you wouldn't be posting, you have NO IDEA as to evidence that has not been discussed in court. Tick tock, more forensics to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is it known that there were no signs of struggle? Has the prosecution or LE released a full autopsy?

Anyone?