Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry there is NO WAY that the six private school kids just coincidentally already happened to be zoned for Hayfield. No way.

Well if their parents can pay private school tuition, they can also pay for rent inside the hayfield boundaries

Against vhsl rules to transfer for sports.

As a parent if u can’t PROVE it was for sports there is nothing you can do. Yes, my kid needs or wants this specific class to further his education efforts, now if he so happens hv played on the football team, technically it’s luck of the draw. ETHICALLY, I 100 percent agree it could look otherwise, but you still can’t prove it, it’s just irony

That’s why Hayfield won’t be banned. If we wanna speculate, we can speculate about a lot of schools.

Apparently, you didn’t see the AD texts re the fake homelessness claims to be made. That’s ok, a lot of moving parts here.

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...

Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.

After all their screw ups with actual education, is football going to be what brings down this superintendent and school board?

You're in a bubble if you think that everyone really cares about this. Half of the school system has students in grades K-6. This just isn't on their radar, and they don't care about some football team. Reid is not going down for this. But dream on.

She’s cared enough to tell the whole county twice in a week about. Plus another email. I’ve heard more about this from her than anything other than school safety.

Maybe that’s a sign. Or maybe she’s just trying to distance herself because of the bad publicity.

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Anonymous wrote: Blinders on if anyone still believe the security head and Dir of Student Services just happened to change schools.

They were absolutely forced out quietly by Michelle Boyd Region 6

[Anonymous]

Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

Nice effort to deflect but it’s Hayfield that appears to be rotten to the core.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

If that's what you took from these text messages, there is no point in having a discussion with you.

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The South County coach did not "spearhead' the boycot. He just had the audio of his parent meeting leaked. And in the meeting, he said he would do whatever the players voted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...

Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.

After all their screw ups with actual education, is football going to be what brings down this superintendent and school board?

You're in a bubble if you think that everyone really cares about this. Half of the school system has students in grades K-6. This just isn't on their radar, and they don't care about some football team. Reid is not going down for this. But dream on.

My speculation is that Reid and the School Board members have received the most email from FCPS parents, coaches, staff about this issue vs any other issue.

She has sent out multiple emails, SB members have sent out messages...they would be trying to sweep this under the rug IF they hadn't heard from a LOT of people. Its a big school system. Even 20% of people caring about an issue is a lot of constituent messages.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this enough to have state AG take over? It is what’s needed.

That’s no smoking gun and I don’t think it’s damning. It shows the AD expected transfers to come in with Overton and he mentioned homeless kids as an example.

If kids had been caught faking homeless, they may have something here, but I don’t thing this shows any violation being committed.

Nonsense. Why do you think Fritts suggested kids would transfer in as homeless and responded with three "laughing enojis" when his friend said "they better actually be homeless" ?

Moreover why---if kids weren't expected to transfer to play football which is a VHsL
Violation---is the conversation which started discussing hiring Overton then about how 10+ kids will be transferring from ither schools and some pretending to be homeless?

Reading this, I took it like Overton was truly sought after, ok fine, I believe they already had in their minds just like anywhere else with Overton coming in “some” kids would follow, and in my head the mention of 10 starters comment was basically a subtle shot at the players already there not being good enough and that with new coach comes better players.

This doesn't happen, actually. Kids don't jump from public HS to public HS following "their" coach around.

Stop it, please stop lying about a known epidemic, this one is only where it’s at based on the number of transfers not transfer in general

No one is lying. My kid's large FCPS HS got a new head football coach this year and no kids "followed him". "Better players" do not come with new coaches at public high schools, except apparently in shady places like PWC.

You’re definitely fabricating this, but ok for convenience sakes I’ll believe you

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Public school coaches show up for and coach the kids who already attend that school. They don't bring a three ring circus to work with them.

The fact that you don't understand this is...puzzling.

The fact that i KNOW this to be a lie because I personally hv coached at 3diff FCPS schools and hv witnessed things know other coaches who hv tried things. i dont feel the need to have to prove anything just know i know different. May not be every school and thats simply because the school isn’t good enuf in that sport to even want to transfer to.

Assuming we take you at your word, have you ever seen 18 transfers at once? (And at some point you have to back it up w/some details)

Most I’ve ever known/seen was 5 maybe 6 most, I’ve also heard about coaches using the homeless rule when kids couldn’t provide a family address. I’ve heard and seen coaches take kids home after practice for the entire year or pay for them catch busses

Ok, 5-6 is a lot, but 18 blows the doors off that. And, it would good if you gave a team name/year, so the Internet detectives can get to work.

Nah, I gv you a clue but guess you didn’t pick up on it, even if I gave you any of that going back 8-10 years does what to a systematic problem. A lot of schools do it, just nvr seen with this many. It’s been stated multiple times that schools do it in let’s just say a more moderate fashion, so it’s not potentially flagged, but a lot of those schools do that are already talented and just keep their edge on the competition, but the schools that don’t are truly the schools that never win anyways so the interest in going to that school doesn’t really exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents are quoted in writing (the dispatch article) saying they moved to play football with Overton. The video has more. No problem with proof.

Did they say it was the only reason, one of the reasons, the tipping factor, or just mention that they came because of Overton?

They said they were following Overton. And I believe FCPS has seen the video and is simply pretending they did not.

[FrankWinston]

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...

Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.

After all their screw ups with actual education, is football going to be what brings down this superintendent and school board?

You're in a bubble if you think that everyone really cares about this. Half of the school system has students in grades K-6. This just isn't on their radar, and they don't care about some football team. Reid is not going down for this. But dream on.

It is on their radar as Reid emailed all parents in the district last night. Several commenters have noted that A. they hadn't heard a thing about this until said email; and B. now that they know, they're pissed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...

Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.

He didn’t resign right just a leave of absence? I’m pretty sure HR can fire him for cause at this point. He would’ve submitted at HR-2 that said LOA for family reasons but now there’s clear evidence that he did something wrong. FCPS HR has gotten folks for less. Yes generally most HRs will try to let folks walk away with some dignity but from those texts, they can easily use those to fire for cause I’m quite sure

They could be hesitant to fire him because he could bring the whole administration down. He leaves for two years, gets transferred to another school and FCPS hopes everyone forgets.

They fire him, and he rats on everyone involved; and there is modt likely a lot more (and juicier) texts from on ‘ole Monty’s phone.

Have to wonder if these messages were sent through a personal phone or school-provided phone…

It was a school provided phone. Read the statement from FCPS on the texts:


Fairfax County Public School (FCPS) senior leadership was first made aware of the existence of these concerning text messages during a meeting held with a number of our football coaches. These messages were obtained by our human resources department the next day, November 20, and we immediately began an inquiry into their authenticity and intent.”

She continued, “These messages were also turned over to our internal and external legal counsel for review, and to thoroughly investigate, which takes time.”

“As part of the investigation, we are interviewing a number of staff members to make sure we are diligent in determining the facts regarding these new developments. We have committed throughout this situation that if any new information came to light, we would review it with a sense of urgency, while also ensuring that we are fair to everyone involved in this complex situation which has a significant impact on our student athletes, staff, and community. We will be making further statements as we are able,” the spokeswoman concluded.

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The Fairfax Times journalist says she has been trying to get the homeless data for months.

Since June, the Fairfax County Times has been asking FCPS officials for the monthly homeless student data for Hayfield Secondary School. A spokeswoman first said that the data would be available in September. Then, most recently, the Office of Communications forwarded the request for the data to the Freedom of Information Office, which is governed by the school district’s in-house lawyer, John Foster.

[FrankWinston]

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

The mental gymnastics one has to do to come to this conclusion is incredibly impressive.