Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.

[Anonymous]

Wonder if VHSL had the text.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

If that's what you took from these text messages, there is no point in having a discussion with you.

Please, by all means let’s conversate. I’m game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.

Its SO weird to me that you think this comment is important at all. Who cares what some anonymous person thought about what some other random FCPS football coach would think about the Hayfield cheating?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

If that's what you took from these text messages, there is no point in having a discussion with you.

Please, by all means let’s conversate. I’m game.

Sorry you missed the memo, but the Hayfield people have moved on to claiming that the damning texts are actually fake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.

Its SO weird to me that you think this comment is important at all. Who cares what some anonymous person thought about what some other random FCPS football coach would think about the Hayfield cheating?

Seriously!
I've never seen such a short text conversation admit to so many wrongdoings in so few words!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to atleast consider.

If that's what you took from these text messages, there is no point in having a discussion with you.

Please, by all means let’s conversate. I’m game.

Sorry you missed the memo, but the Hayfield people have moved on to claiming that the damning texts are actually fake.

really? LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.

Its SO weird to me that you think this comment is important at all. Who cares what some anonymous person thought about what some other random FCPS football coach would think about the Hayfield cheating?

What’s weird is we’re supposed to believe everything else the text threads said but can’t dissect everything IN the text thread. In a court of law all that’s needed is to present any sort of reasonable doubt. Nownlet that meditate in your spirit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.

Its SO weird to me that you think this comment is important at all. Who cares what some anonymous person thought about what some other random FCPS football coach would think about the Hayfield cheating?

What’s weird is we’re supposed to believe everything else the text threads said but can’t dissect everything IN the text thread. In a court of law all that’s needed is to present any sort of reasonable doubt. Nownlet that meditate in your spirit

Your point is that an Anonymous person thought a South County coach would be upset that Hayfield was hiring a notorious cheater.
What is your point again?

[Anonymous]

The guy he was texting with knew Monty was getting himself in deep doo-doo,

"I'm not sure he would get away with the same stuff in FCPS"

Players "better actually be homeless".

"Your job just got exponentially more annoying" (FAMOUS LAST WORDS)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The guy he was texting with knew Monty was getting himself in deep doo-doo,

"I'm not sure he would get away with the same stuff in FCPS"

Players "better actually be homeless".

"Your job just got exponentially more annoying" (FAMOUS LAST WORDS)

Yes, I'm curious who this was.

[Anonymous]

The coaches knew about this text exchange ALLEGEDLY (ha) before Reid knew about it.
So my guess is Monty was texting an assistant coach in the area he thought he was friendly with, and that assistant shared his message with other coaches.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this enough to have state AG take over? It is what’s needed.

That’s no smoking gun and I don’t think it’s damning. It shows the AD expected transfers to come in with Overton and he mentioned homeless kids as an example.

If kids had been caught faking homeless, they may have something here, but I don’t thing this shows any violation being committed.

Nonsense. Why do you think Fritts suggested kids would transfer in as homeless and responded with three "laughing enojis" when his friend said "they better actually be homeless" ?

Moreover why---if kids weren't expected to transfer to play football which is a VHsL
Violation---is the conversation which started discussing hiring Overton then about how 10+ kids will be transferring from ither schools and some pretending to be homeless?

Reading this, I took it like Overton was truly sought after, ok fine, I believe they already had in their minds just like anywhere else with Overton coming in “some” kids would follow, and in my head the mention of 10 starters comment was basically a subtle shot at the players already there not being good enough and that with new coach comes better players.

This doesn't happen, actually. Kids don't jump from public HS to public HS following "their" coach around.

Stop it, please stop lying about a known epidemic, this one is only where it’s at based on the number of transfers not transfer in general

No one is lying. My kid's large FCPS HS got a new head football coach this year and no kids "followed him". "Better players" do not come with new coaches at public high schools, except apparently in shady places like PWC.

You’re definitely fabricating this, but ok for convenience sakes I’ll believe you

Nope!
Public school coaches show up for and coach the kids who already attend that school. They don't bring a three ring circus to work with them.

The fact that you don't understand this is...puzzling.

The fact that i KNOW this to be a lie because I personally hv coached at 3diff FCPS schools and hv witnessed things know other coaches who hv tried things. i dont feel the need to have to prove anything just know i know different. May not be every school and thats simply because the school isn’t good enuf in that sport to even want to transfer to.

Assuming we take you at your word, have you ever seen 18 transfers at once? (And at some point you have to back it up w/some details)

Most I’ve ever known/seen was 5 maybe 6 most, I’ve also heard about coaches using the homeless rule when kids couldn’t provide a family address. I’ve heard and seen coaches take kids home after practice for the entire year or pay for them catch busses

Ok, 5-6 is a lot, but 18 blows the doors off that. And, it would good if you gave a team name/year, so the Internet detectives can get to work.

Nah, I gv you a clue but guess you didn’t pick up on it, even if I gave you any of that going back 8-10 years does what to a systematic problem. A lot of schools do it, just nvr seen with this many. It’s been stated multiple times that schools do it in let’s just say a more moderate fashion, so it’s not potentially flagged, but a lot of those schools do that are already talented and just keep their edge on the competition, but the schools that don’t are truly the schools that never win anyways so the interest in going to that school doesn’t really exist.

Yes I missed the clue, and likely won’t figure out if 10 years ago. But, I think you prove the point re “nvr seen with this many.” They replaced the entire team, which is one of the things that has everyone so pissed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the texts from the AD phone, the one thing that stood out to me was the South County coach was shook from well before he was officially even hired. It seems to me that the thought of him having to coach against this man. So if one truly wanted to “speculate” that this has been a conspiracy against Hayfield from the very beginning. Now please someone tell me how you can’t see that being the case. He was the ONLY coach mentioned in the text and now it was him that spearheaded the coaches boycotting. It’s something you have to at least consider.

How about because it is WRONG. Not because he was SCARED, or SHOOK, or RACIST. I cannot with the self important, misinformed Hayfield lovers.

What was wrong, the man hadn’t even been hired yet, but folks knew that apparently that potential hiring would shake Panonni. So, yes he was definitely shook, believe what you want to.

Its SO weird to me that you think this comment is important at all. Who cares what some anonymous person thought about what some other random FCPS football coach would think about the Hayfield cheating?

What’s weird is we’re supposed to believe everything else the text threads said but can’t dissect everything IN the text thread. In a court of law all that’s needed is to present any sort of reasonable doubt. Nownlet that meditate in your spirit

Your point is that an Anonymous person thought a South County coach would be upset that Hayfield was hiring a notorious cheater.
What is your point again?

Notorious, what again has he been proven guilty of? What? Pls do elaborate. Allegations are not facts, simply they are questions one would like to have answered

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this enough to have state AG take over? It is what’s needed.

That’s no smoking gun and I don’t think it’s damning. It shows the AD expected transfers to come in with Overton and he mentioned homeless kids as an example.

If kids had been caught faking homeless, they may have something here, but I don’t thing this shows any violation being committed.

Nonsense. Why do you think Fritts suggested kids would transfer in as homeless and responded with three "laughing enojis" when his friend said "they better actually be homeless" ?

Moreover why---if kids weren't expected to transfer to play football which is a VHsL
Violation---is the conversation which started discussing hiring Overton then about how 10+ kids will be transferring from ither schools and some pretending to be homeless?

Reading this, I took it like Overton was truly sought after, ok fine, I believe they already had in their minds just like anywhere else with Overton coming in “some” kids would follow, and in my head the mention of 10 starters comment was basically a subtle shot at the players already there not being good enough and that with new coach comes better players.

This doesn't happen, actually. Kids don't jump from public HS to public HS following "their" coach around.

Stop it, please stop lying about a known epidemic, this one is only where it’s at based on the number of transfers not transfer in general

No one is lying. My kid's large FCPS HS got a new head football coach this year and no kids "followed him". "Better players" do not come with new coaches at public high schools, except apparently in shady places like PWC.

You’re definitely fabricating this, but ok for convenience sakes I’ll believe you

Nope!
Public school coaches show up for and coach the kids who already attend that school. They don't bring a three ring circus to work with them.

The fact that you don't understand this is...puzzling.

The fact that i KNOW this to be a lie because I personally hv coached at 3diff FCPS schools and hv witnessed things know other coaches who hv tried things. i dont feel the need to have to prove anything just know i know different. May not be every school and thats simply because the school isn’t good enuf in that sport to even want to transfer to.

Assuming we take you at your word, have you ever seen 18 transfers at once? (And at some point you have to back it up w/some details)

Most I’ve ever known/seen was 5 maybe 6 most, I’ve also heard about coaches using the homeless rule when kids couldn’t provide a family address. I’ve heard and seen coaches take kids home after practice for the entire year or pay for them catch busses

Ok, 5-6 is a lot, but 18 blows the doors off that. And, it would good if you gave a team name/year, so the Internet detectives can get to work.

Nah, I gv you a clue but guess you didn’t pick up on it, even if I gave you any of that going back 8-10 years does what to a systematic problem. A lot of schools do it, just nvr seen with this many. It’s been stated multiple times that schools do it in let’s just say a more moderate fashion, so it’s not potentially flagged, but a lot of those schools do that are already talented and just keep their edge on the competition, but the schools that don’t are truly the schools that never win anyways so the interest in going to that school doesn’t really exist.

Yes I missed the clue, and likely won’t figure out if 10 years ago. But, I think you prove the point re “nvr seen with this many.” They replaced the entire team, which is one of the things that has everyone so pissed.

Not too many schools hv “busses” that can be paid for, but like they say Metro buys cars. I’ve worked under 3 white coaches and 2 black, I for one don’t play the race card, or feel the need to.