Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Are options 1 and 3 so ridiculous intentionally to push 2 and/or make it more palatable by comparison??


No. I don't see anything ridiculous about them. Ridiculous how?


It’s understandable people not impacted may not notice but they include splitting up individual neighborhoods at an elementary level which seems even worse than a split feeder.


Which neighborhoods?

I was surprised they changed the ES boundaries. I thought they were only looking at HS boundaries.


A randomly selected portion of the Virginia Run neighborhood is split off to Bull Run.


That's very odd b/c Va Run is way under capacity and Bull Run is not.


Yes, that's strange because its the same development, why are they trying to take kids out of VRES when its way under capacity and Bull Run is not?




This is not true. VRES has a higher current utilization than BRES and did under all the previous comprehensive boundary scenarios. While I agree it is odd to move a section of a community school out of the community, I'm assuming it is because BRES is under-utilized compared to VRES.


Moving part of the neighborhood makes VRES only 75% utilized and Bull Run at 85%.

Right now VRES is 85 and BRES is 77.

It doesn't make a lot of sense.


I don't disagree; I think it is weird and doesn't make any sense since VRES is a true community school compared to BRES. I'm simply stating all the initial boundary scenarios under the comprehensive plan pushed VRES and CRES over 100% capacity. BRES families pushed against that saying it wasn't equitable to any of the kids at the 3 schools and they shouldn't over enroll any of the 3 when capacity existed. I'm just trying to explain what the back story is because I think it is relevant to what is happening now.


I don't remember any neighborhood changes in the boundary study earlier this year that moved neighborhoods around Centre Ridge or VRES.


None were implemented in the final version and any changes to BRES were tabled until the Skyview decision. They were in the draft scenarios but not final version.
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Anonymous wrote:Are options 1 and 3 so ridiculous intentionally to push 2 and/or make it more palatable by comparison??


No. I don't see anything ridiculous about them. Ridiculous how?


It’s understandable people not impacted may not notice but they include splitting up individual neighborhoods at an elementary level which seems even worse than a split feeder.


Which neighborhoods?

I was surprised they changed the ES boundaries. I thought they were only looking at HS boundaries.


A randomly selected portion of the Virginia Run neighborhood is split off to Bull Run.


That's very odd b/c Va Run is way under capacity and Bull Run is not.


Yes, that's strange because its the same development, why are they trying to take kids out of VRES when its way under capacity and Bull Run is not?


Capacity aside splitting a single development at an elementary level seems particularly poor, almost cruel. Splitting a development seems worse than the split feeders they are supposedly trying to fix.


Its very strange b/c its an HOA neighborhood with distinct boundaries, a pool, a swim team, an ES within the neighborhood. Why would you send a section of kids across Lee Highway for no obvious reason or benefit? If one of the schools were overcrowded or economically unbalanced or something, OK, make that argument. But that's not the case here. Its just....dumb.
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Anonymous wrote:Are options 1 and 3 so ridiculous intentionally to push 2 and/or make it more palatable by comparison??


Option 1 is very logical and clean at the MS/HS level to me. I think the ES stuff could easily be cleaned up.


Why option 1 is logical? Because it send Lees Corner to Westfield?


It seems like the least amount of shuffling. Draft 3 has a ton of shuffling with weird boundaries. Draft 2 is bizarre for MS, sending some kids to a different MS then back to the original HS pyramid.


Not true.

Scenario 2 is the least disruptive. Scenario 3 does have lots of shuffling.

I think Scenario 1 will receive very little support from affected families.
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link again so I don't have to scroll back ?? pages?

https://fcpswesternboundary.org/
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Can anyone explain why Lees Corner would end up at Westfield and not Skyview, if they have to move out Chantilly?
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Anonymous wrote:Are options 1 and 3 so ridiculous intentionally to push 2 and/or make it more palatable by comparison??


Option 1 is very logical and clean at the MS/HS level to me. I think the ES stuff could easily be cleaned up.


Why option 1 is logical? Because it send Lees Corner to Westfield?


It seems like the least amount of shuffling. Draft 3 has a ton of shuffling with weird boundaries. Draft 2 is bizarre for MS, sending some kids to a different MS then back to the original HS pyramid.


Not true.

Scenario 2 is the least disruptive. Scenario 3 does have lots of shuffling.

I think Scenario 1 will receive very little support from affected families.


Scenario 2 works if they put Oak Hill at Carson.
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Anonymous wrote:For this entire time, Lees Corner was not part of the change. And now at the very last minute they spring this on us? Moving us to a school that's easily a 20-30 minute drive ONE WAY. This is so f-ed up. Our neighborhoods are ready to fight.


I just google mapped westfield to my friends house, who is on the furthest part of Lee's Corner boundary and it said 15 min.


Rt 50 is gridlocked in the afternoons from all the people headed home to South Riding. My Lees Corner kid has swim practice at Cub Run Rec Center and at 4:30pm it definitely takes 30 mins.

In fact, it would make more sense to send Poplar Tree kids to Westfield since they can make it to Stonecroft Blvd without going on 50.


Luckily, high school doesn't let out at 4:30pm.


And they would be going home east, against traffic.....


I am the parent of a HS student who does sports, and I have to drive to HS quite a bit to bring them gear (which they can't keep at school because of space issues), attend games, meetings etc.

And no matter how far Westfield is, it doesn't change the fact that Chantilly is WALKING DISTANCE.


Right, so all those Centreville parents have to drive even farther than you?


What Centreville neighborhoods are you referring to? I want to understand where you are coming from. What's your current boundary and how is it changing? What were the original options presented for these neighborhoods?

I am trying to understand how Lees Corner got talked into moving out of the the HS they are closest to (Chantilly, .9 miles away), and then not the 2nd closest HS (Skyview, 3 miles away) but all the way to the 3rd closest (Westfield, 4.5 miles away).


No need to play dumb. We keep telling you, someone has to get moved out of Chantilly to Westfield and Lees Corner didn't have anyone advocating for them because they had no idea
it was even a consideration. You don't want it to be your neighborhood, we all get that. You have to do what Rooted in Oakton and Walney Oaks people did and you should get the same result.
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So Fox Mill gets screwed again. Why are they moving walkers to bring bussed?

I expected MS changes, Skyview was going to draw from Carson, Oakton from Franklin, SLHS from Hughes.

Oak Hill would be moved to Carson. Fox Mill to Hughes if it stayed at SLHS. Crossfield to Franklin if they stayed at Oakton.

The ES redraws feel highly unnecessary.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why Lees Corner would end up at Westfield and not Skyview, if they have to move out Chantilly?


Because they are moving like half the students out of Westfield for Skyview, which leaves Westfield with not enough students and Chantilly with too many still. LC is closer to Westfield than some of the other Chantilly areas.
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Can someone explain the changes to the areas zoned to Marshall High School in Vienna/Tysons? Where are those kids going?
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why Lees Corner would end up at Westfield and not Skyview, if they have to move out Chantilly?


B/c Crossfield was sent to Skyview, otherwise, Lees Corner would be sent to Skyview instead.
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Anonymous wrote:Are options 1 and 3 so ridiculous intentionally to push 2 and/or make it more palatable by comparison??


Option 1 is very logical and clean at the MS/HS level to me. I think the ES stuff could easily be cleaned up.


Why option 1 is logical? Because it send Lees Corner to Westfield?


It seems like the least amount of shuffling. Draft 3 has a ton of shuffling with weird boundaries. Draft 2 is bizarre for MS, sending some kids to a different MS then back to the original HS pyramid.


Not true.

Scenario 2 is the least disruptive. Scenario 3 does have lots of shuffling.

I think Scenario 1 will receive very little support from affected families.


Scenario 1 is no good.
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why Lees Corner would end up at Westfield and not Skyview, if they have to move out Chantilly?


Because the powers that be want option 2. They know that it is ridiculous to move Lee's Corner. Why else would they not leave Crossfield as they did in option 1. There is no reason to change everything in every option. What's the point of doing it that way?

They know they will get more pushback.
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Anonymous wrote:Are options 1 and 3 so ridiculous intentionally to push 2 and/or make it more palatable by comparison??


Option 1 is very logical and clean at the MS/HS level to me. I think the ES stuff could easily be cleaned up.


Option 1 moves kids from Carson to Franklin and then to Skyview. In what world does that make sense?
Carson/Skyview sure
Franklin/Oakton sure
Franklin/Skyview wtf


I agree 100%
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