Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:This should prompt a review of all District 6 sports teams from the past 5 years.

Umm, this new coach only showed up in FCPS this year. You sound like Reid: "Let's have a district-wide investigation." Because ... because I said so.

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...

Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.

He didn’t resign right just a leave of absence? I’m pretty sure HR can fire him for cause at this point. He would’ve submitted at HR-2 that said LOA for family reasons but now there’s clear evidence that he did something wrong. FCPS HR has gotten folks for less. Yes generally most HRs will try to let folks walk away with some dignity but from those texts, they can easily use those to fire for cause I’m quite sure

They could be hesitant to fire him because he could bring the whole administration down. He leaves for two years, gets transferred to another school and FCPS hopes everyone forgets.

They fire him, and he rats on everyone involved; and there is modt likely a lot more (and juicier) texts from on ‘ole Monty’s phone.

Have to wonder if these messages were sent through a personal phone or school-provided phone…

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent of young elementary schoolers on the other side of the county, it is very off putting to keep getting emails from the superintendent about this. The first email just drew attention to something I was not even aware was a problem. Can we get a superintendent that focuses on real issues? She should expect everyone in the chain of command to follow the rules, and when they don't, quickly fix it. Why is she bending over backward to cover for a football team?

Because she thinks a progressive White woman needs to be an "ally" of a Black principal and coach when they are accused of wrongdoing. She obviously isn't interested in a level playing field among FCPS high schools or high standards of integrity.

And Reid is still working the “real issues”. If you are on the north side of county, expect to be re-districted soon. You have had an unfair advantage in case no one told you. And if you paid up to get into a “top” pyramid when you bought your house, well that’s just too bad. But, don’t expect any drop in your real estate taxes when this happens.

Just join a no cut sport at school want to attend as that seems path Reid wants to do- if can change schools for a specific academic class, should be able to do so for athletics. Would save some money as boundary study worthless as people will just go wherever they want. But mom, I don’t run track. Oh, just join first week and then you can drop it.

No.

Just no.

Allowing transfers for sports is ridiculous.

And if you transfer for Japanese or Arabic, and drop your language, you cannot stay at the out of zone school.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, FCPS should just assume ffx times has more screenshots of texts

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Overton and his crew didn’t do their research on the likes of Asra Q. Nomani (not all that surprising). Once she got involved the smart bettors knew this was going to be a death by 1000 cuts type situation. She’s likely sitting on a mountain of evidence and just slowly going to let it drip out.

Yep. I disagree with her politics but she is a great journalist. She's like a dog with a bone.

She’s diligent and uncovers stuff that others wouldn’t look for or find. She isn’t always accurate - for example, she suggested the Herndon FB coach recently resigned over FCPS’s handling of the Hayfield situation and he completely disavowed her claim.

The Herndon coach was recruiting. I know that for a fact.

All this slandering of other programs and coaches with NO PROOF is pathetic.

Exactly - my kid went to preschool with most of those players. They've lived there their whole lives.

My kids have been knowing them since preschool as well and there are some kids who haven’t lived in the zone that long.

I know for a fact the Herndon football coach was recruiting and trying to sway a kid with private school opportunities, but lived in the zone into attending Herndon.

They do it for basketball too, as there is a sophomore playing for Herndon whose home address is zoned for a different school. He was persuaded by the basketball coach to attend Herndon.

I'm not sure this is the type of "recruiting" that violates the rules. The student was already slated to attend Herndon as he lived in the Herndon district. The coach seemed to be simply asking him to stay to and play there as opposed to attend the private school. In fact, it really isn't recruiting. The kid was going there anyway if he didn't decide to attend a private high school.

Recruiting is recruiting, he wasn’t going anyway, and probably won’t be back next year.

Seems the VHSL is selective as to who the enforce these rules against.

Clearly another out of district Freedom HS football parent who doesn't know or understand FCPS transfer policies keeps posting here.

There are zero issues, recruiting or otherwise, for a Herndon coach to ask a Herndon zoned student to play their sport or attend their high school.

Zero.

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Anonymous wrote:Footbal recruits don't pay tuition at DeMatha, Ireton, St John College etc. They were on free rides.

Very few of those kids get free rides. Most are there because their parents invested in a school that was a better situation for football and they pay. If the kid is a difference maker, the parents still pay, but pay what they can afford.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, FCPS should just assume ffx times has more screenshots of texts

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Overton and his crew didn’t do their research on the likes of Asra Q. Nomani (not all that surprising). Once she got involved the smart bettors knew this was going to be a death by 1000 cuts type situation. She’s likely sitting on a mountain of evidence and just slowly going to let it drip out.

Yep. I disagree with her politics but she is a great journalist. She's like a dog with a bone.

She’s diligent and uncovers stuff that others wouldn’t look for or find. She isn’t always accurate - for example, she suggested the Herndon FB coach recently resigned over FCPS’s handling of the Hayfield situation and he completely disavowed her claim.

The Herndon coach was recruiting. I know that for a fact.

All this slandering of other programs and coaches with NO PROOF is pathetic.

Exactly - my kid went to preschool with most of those players. They've lived there their whole lives.

My kids have been knowing them since preschool as well and there are some kids who haven’t lived in the zone that long.

I know for a fact the Herndon football coach was recruiting and trying to sway a kid with private school opportunities, but lived in the zone into attending Herndon.

They do it for basketball too, as there is a sophomore playing for Herndon whose home address is zoned for a different school. He was persuaded by the basketball coach to attend Herndon.

I'm not sure this is the type of "recruiting" that violates the rules. The student was already slated to attend Herndon as he lived in the Herndon district. The coach seemed to be simply asking him to stay to and play there as opposed to attend the private school. In fact, it really isn't recruiting. The kid was going there anyway if he didn't decide to attend a private high school.

Recruiting is recruiting, he wasn’t going anyway, and probably won’t be back next year.

Seems the VHSL is selective as to who the enforce these rules against.

You can’t “recruit” someone that is already at the school. Don’t propose something so preposterous. You come across as foolish.

But wait the private school kids that left and returned to Hayfield it seems to be an issue, as they live in the district (not moved into the district). But all u hear is oh Hayfield had x from private schools. W

No one anywhere has a problem with Herndon zoned kids returning from private school to attend their neighborhood high school.

It soulds like a big part of the problem is all of you Prince William County parents did not take the time to research transfer policies in Fairfax County Public Schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is claiming they didn't know anything about the texts until the coaches meeting last week, and they have been "researching" them ever since...

Said another way, Reid and School Board knew ALL of this when they were putting out their pro-Hayfield propaganda letters last week and granting a club-med out of country exit with all benefits and pension in tact to AD.

After all their screw ups with actual education, is football going to be what brings down this superintendent and school board?

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I know how it works as I have a kid that was recruited for a sport by private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:This should prompt a review of all District 6 sports teams from the past 5 years.

It is really just a Hayfield/Overton issue.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, FCPS should just assume ffx times has more screenshots of texts

100%

Overton and his crew didn’t do their research on the likes of Asra Q. Nomani (not all that surprising). Once she got involved the smart bettors knew this was going to be a death by 1000 cuts type situation. She’s likely sitting on a mountain of evidence and just slowly going to let it drip out.

Yep. I disagree with her politics but she is a great journalist. She's like a dog with a bone.

She’s diligent and uncovers stuff that others wouldn’t look for or find. She isn’t always accurate - for example, she suggested the Herndon FB coach recently resigned over FCPS’s handling of the Hayfield situation and he completely disavowed her claim.

The Herndon coach was recruiting. I know that for a fact.

All this slandering of other programs and coaches with NO PROOF is pathetic.

Exactly - my kid went to preschool with most of those players. They've lived there their whole lives.

My kids have been knowing them since preschool as well and there are some kids who haven’t lived in the zone that long.

I know for a fact the Herndon football coach was recruiting and trying to sway a kid with private school opportunities, but lived in the zone into attending Herndon.

They do it for basketball too, as there is a sophomore playing for Herndon whose home address is zoned for a different school. He was persuaded by the basketball coach to attend Herndon.

I'm not sure this is the type of "recruiting" that violates the rules. The student was already slated to attend Herndon as he lived in the Herndon district. The coach seemed to be simply asking him to stay to and play there as opposed to attend the private school. In fact, it really isn't recruiting. The kid was going there anyway if he didn't decide to attend a private high school.

Recruiting is recruiting, he wasn’t going anyway, and probably won’t be back next year.

Seems the VHSL is selective as to who the enforce these rules against.

You can’t “recruit” someone that is already at the school. Don’t propose something so preposterous. You come across as foolish.

But wait the private school kids that left and returned to Hayfield it seems to be an issue, as they live in the district (not moved into the district). But all u hear is oh Hayfield had x from private schools. W

No one anywhere has a problem with Herndon zoned kids returning from private school to attend their neighborhood high school.

It soulds like a big part of the problem is all of you Prince William County parents did not take the time to research transfer policies in Fairfax County Public Schools.

Of course no one has a problem with Herndon, the coach is white.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, FCPS should just assume ffx times has more screenshots of texts

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Overton and his crew didn’t do their research on the likes of Asra Q. Nomani (not all that surprising). Once she got involved the smart bettors knew this was going to be a death by 1000 cuts type situation. She’s likely sitting on a mountain of evidence and just slowly going to let it drip out.

Yep. I disagree with her politics but she is a great journalist. She's like a dog with a bone.

She’s diligent and uncovers stuff that others wouldn’t look for or find. She isn’t always accurate - for example, she suggested the Herndon FB coach recently resigned over FCPS’s handling of the Hayfield situation and he completely disavowed her claim.

The Herndon coach was recruiting. I know that for a fact.

All this slandering of other programs and coaches with NO PROOF is pathetic.

Exactly - my kid went to preschool with most of those players. They've lived there their whole lives.

My kids have been knowing them since preschool as well and there are some kids who haven’t lived in the zone that long.

I know for a fact the Herndon football coach was recruiting and trying to sway a kid with private school opportunities, but lived in the zone into attending Herndon.

They do it for basketball too, as there is a sophomore playing for Herndon whose home address is zoned for a different school. He was persuaded by the basketball coach to attend Herndon.

I'm not sure this is the type of "recruiting" that violates the rules. The student was already slated to attend Herndon as he lived in the Herndon district. The coach seemed to be simply asking him to stay to and play there as opposed to attend the private school. In fact, it really isn't recruiting. The kid was going there anyway if he didn't decide to attend a private high school.

Recruiting is recruiting, he wasn’t going anyway, and probably won’t be back next year.

Seems the VHSL is selective as to who the enforce these rules against.

You can’t “recruit” someone that is already at the school. Don’t propose something so preposterous. You come across as foolish.

But wait the private school kids that left and returned to Hayfield it seems to be an issue, as they live in the district (not moved into the district). But all u hear is oh Hayfield had x from private schools. W

No one anywhere has a problem with Herndon zoned kids returning from private school to attend their neighborhood high school.

It soulds like a big part of the problem is all of you Prince William County parents did not take the time to research transfer policies in Fairfax County Public Schools.

+1. Prince William seems to have open transfer within the district. FCPS does not.

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Anonymous wrote:I know how it works as I have a kid that was recruited for a sport by private schools.

Private schools can recruit. Public cannot.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this enough to have state AG take over? It is what’s needed.

That’s no smoking gun and I don’t think it’s damning. It shows the AD expected transfers to come in with Overton and he mentioned homeless kids as an example.

If kids had been caught faking homeless, they may have something here, but I don’t thing this shows any violation being committed.

Nonsense. Why do you think Fritts suggested kids would transfer in as homeless and responded with three "laughing enojis" when his friend said "they better actually be homeless" ?

Moreover why---if kids weren't expected to transfer to play football which is a VHsL
Violation---is the conversation which started discussing hiring Overton then about how 10+ kids will be transferring from ither schools and some pretending to be homeless?

Reading this, I took it like Overton was truly sought after, ok fine, I believe they already had in their minds just like anywhere else with Overton coming in “some” kids would follow, and in my head the mention of 10 starters comment was basically a subtle shot at the players already there not being good enough and that with new coach comes better players.

This doesn't happen, actually. Kids don't jump from public HS to public HS following "their" coach around.

Stop it, please stop lying about a known epidemic, this one is only where it’s at based on the number of transfers not transfer in general

No one is lying. My kid's large FCPS HS got a new head football coach this year and no kids "followed him". "Better players" do not come with new coaches at public high schools, except apparently in shady places like PWC.

You’re definitely fabricating this, but ok for convenience sakes I’ll believe you

Nope!
Public school coaches show up for and coach the kids who already attend that school. They don't bring a three ring circus to work with them.

The fact that you don't understand this is...puzzling.

The fact that i KNOW this to be a lie because I personally hv coached at 3diff FCPS schools and hv witnessed things know other coaches who hv tried things. i dont feel the need to have to prove anything just know i know different. May not be every school and thats simply because the school isn’t good enuf in that sport to even want to transfer to.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this enough to have state AG take over? It is what’s needed.

That’s no smoking gun and I don’t think it’s damning. It shows the AD expected transfers to come in with Overton and he mentioned homeless kids as an example.

If kids had been caught faking homeless, they may have something here, but I don’t thing this shows any violation being committed.

Nonsense. Why do you think Fritts suggested kids would transfer in as homeless and responded with three "laughing enojis" when his friend said "they better actually be homeless" ?

Moreover why---if kids weren't expected to transfer to play football which is a VHsL
Violation---is the conversation which started discussing hiring Overton then about how 10+ kids will be transferring from ither schools and some pretending to be homeless?

Reading this, I took it like Overton was truly sought after, ok fine, I believe they already had in their minds just like anywhere else with Overton coming in “some” kids would follow, and in my head the mention of 10 starters comment was basically a subtle shot at the players already there not being good enough and that with new coach comes better players.

This doesn't happen, actually. Kids don't jump from public HS to public HS following "their" coach around.

Stop it, please stop lying about a known epidemic, this one is only where it’s at based on the number of transfers not transfer in general

No one is lying. My kid's large FCPS HS got a new head football coach this year and no kids "followed him". "Better players" do not come with new coaches at public high schools, except apparently in shady places like PWC.

You’re definitely fabricating this, but ok for convenience sakes I’ll believe you

Nope!
Public school coaches show up for and coach the kids who already attend that school. They don't bring a three ring circus to work with them.

The fact that you don't understand this is...puzzling.

The fact that i KNOW this to be a lie because I personally hv coached at 3diff FCPS schools and hv witnessed things know other coaches who hv tried things. i dont feel the need to have to prove anything just know i know different. May not be every school and thats simply because the school isn’t good enuf in that sport to even want to transfer to.

Assuming we take you at your word, have you ever seen 18 transfers at once? (And at some point you have to back it up w/some details)

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Anonymous wrote:Is this enough to have state AG take over? It is what’s needed.

That’s no smoking gun and I don’t think it’s damning. It shows the AD expected transfers to come in with Overton and he mentioned homeless kids as an example.

If kids had been caught faking homeless, they may have something here, but I don’t thing this shows any violation being committed.

Nonsense. Why do you think Fritts suggested kids would transfer in as homeless and responded with three "laughing enojis" when his friend said "they better actually be homeless" ?

Moreover why---if kids weren't expected to transfer to play football which is a VHsL
Violation---is the conversation which started discussing hiring Overton then about how 10+ kids will be transferring from ither schools and some pretending to be homeless?

Reading this, I took it like Overton was truly sought after, ok fine, I believe they already had in their minds just like anywhere else with Overton coming in “some” kids would follow, and in my head the mention of 10 starters comment was basically a subtle shot at the players already there not being good enough and that with new coach comes better players.

This doesn't happen, actually. Kids don't jump from public HS to public HS following "their" coach around.

Stop it, please stop lying about a known epidemic, this one is only where it’s at based on the number of transfers not transfer in general

No one is lying. My kid's large FCPS HS got a new head football coach this year and no kids "followed him". "Better players" do not come with new coaches at public high schools, except apparently in shady places like PWC.

You’re definitely fabricating this, but ok for convenience sakes I’ll believe you

Nope!
Public school coaches show up for and coach the kids who already attend that school. They don't bring a three ring circus to work with them.

The fact that you don't understand this is...puzzling.

The fact that i KNOW this to be a lie because I personally hv coached at 3diff FCPS schools and hv witnessed things know other coaches who hv tried things. i dont feel the need to have to prove anything just know i know different. May not be every school and thats simply because the school isn’t good enuf in that sport to even want to transfer to.

This post cannot possibly be a post written by an adult.

The grammar and spelling is so unintelligible, that it could only have been written by a young teenager who is not very literate in basic writing skills.

There is zero possibility that this bolded post was written by an adult who has coached at three Fairfax County public high schools.