Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

This was a murder from the get go. There would have been a very thorough autopsy including blood samples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

OMG please stop sock puppeting with your idiotic theories. You are ruining this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the PPs who keep suggesting that CB was killed before JR arrived -- the police say that is NOT the case.

The police say that CB was killed very soon after JR was shot.

Presumably, the police know where CB was when she was killed because they have said she was moved. So, the experts must have deduced where she was initially.

We are going to learn a lot in November if JM goes to trial.

My heart breaks for CB and the total SHOCK she must have gone through that morning. Same for JR. What terror and betrayal.

Five lives ruined b/c BB couldn't keep his penis in his pants. So calculated. Sociopathic.

They had to kill CB after JR was in the house otherwise what if he did not show, car broke down, etc. and BB had stabbed her? Plus, he wanted to use a knife he had told JR to bring. Since that is the knife that did the stabbing per LE, she was killed after JR was there. Would only make sense he was shot quickly, maybe ambushed, he was a big guy, athletic, with martial arts background. They had to get him controlled with 2 weapons fast and eliminated as a threat to their sick plan.

RIP Joe.

RIP Christine.

You both should be here today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

[Anonymous]

Easiest to think of every detail provided by AP as a lie and attempt to misdirect and confuse, crafted by BB.

Joe was not standing over Christine, he was in the corner, at gunpoint.

She did not forget lunches, she was part at the house as part of a conspiracy to murder.

She did not go to a safe and start spinning the combo after Joe was shot in the head, likely had a gun on him the whole time.

Christine was not on the bed, she was moved.

Christine was not nude to start, BB cut off her pjs with JR's knife, one of the details from the ruse Telegram messages LE have.

Joe was not violent, BB and JPM are.

CB did not order JR up on a fetish site to cheat, BB had numerous affairs, including with JPM.

JPM was not in fear, instead she terrorized JR and CB before helping snuff out their lives.

And so on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

I don’t know what your problem is but you’re talking to multiple people on this thread. You’ve said “just stop“ to multiple people. Are you related to Christine? I’m just wondering because there are certain posters on this thread who fail to believe she could’ve had extra marital affairs or involved in any type of fetish activities with her husband. Again, no one is suggesting she created the Flife account. We know what law enforcement has said. But just because someone has sexual fantasies/activities that seem out of bounds of your own, does not make them a bad person. No one is trying to shame the victim here. Just trying to figure out why and how this all happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

Why do you think there was no struggle?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Easiest to think of every detail provided by AP as a lie and attempt to misdirect and confuse, crafted by BB.

Joe was not standing over Christine, he was in the corner, at gunpoint.

She did not forget lunches, she was part at the house as part of a conspiracy to murder.

She did not go to a safe and start spinning the combo after Joe was shot in the head, likely had a gun on him the whole time.

Christine was not on the bed, she was moved.

Christine was not nude to start, BB cut off her pjs with JR's knife, one of the details from the ruse Telegram messages LE have.

Joe was not violent, BB and JPM are.

CB did not order JR up on a fetish site to cheat, BB had numerous affairs, including with JPM.

JPM was not in fear, instead she terrorized JR and CB before helping snuff out their lives.

And so on...

Yeah, but the only thing about what you said above is about JPM not forgetting lunches. We know she quite literally did not forget the lunches but the ring cameras show her entering the house with Brendan and the daughter in the back door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

OMG please stop sock puppeting with your idiotic theories. You are ruining this thread.

Do you feel better by denigrsting others?

It is you who is ruining the discussion. I pity you that you need to be so abrasive and mean on an anonymous discussion board.

[Anonymous]

One thing I was thinking. Isn’t Telegram a phone app? So technically it would have to be on CB’s phone, right? Or it would be too obvious….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing I was thinking. Isn’t Telegram a phone app? So technically it would have to be on CB’s phone, right? Or it would be too obvious….

She could’ve had telegram on her phone, but never communicated with Joe. Two things can be true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I was thinking. Isn’t Telegram a phone app? So technically it would have to be on CB’s phone, right? Or it would be too obvious….

She could’ve had telegram on her phone, but never communicated with Joe. Two things can be true.

Yea, but the police had to get those conversations somehow. They know which phone was used.