Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:One thing I was thinking. Isn’t Telegram a phone app? So technically it would have to be on CB’s phone, right? Or it would be too obvious….

She could’ve had telegram on her phone, but never communicated with Joe. Two things can be true.

Yea, but the police had to get those conversations somehow. They know which phone was used.

Yes, obviously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One thing I was thinking. Isn’t Telegram a phone app? So technically it would have to be on CB’s phone, right? Or it would be too obvious….

She could’ve had telegram on her phone, but never communicated with Joe. Two things can be true.

Yea, but the police had to get those conversations somehow. They know which phone was used.

Exactly, I don’t think they would just use BB or JM’s phone bc that would be too obvious. Technically, it had to be CB’s phone. That would be part of the story they were trying to set up.

Yes, obviously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One thing I was thinking. Isn’t Telegram a phone app? So technically it would have to be on CB’s phone, right? Or it would be too obvious….

She could’ve had telegram on her phone, but never communicated with Joe. Two things can be true.

Yea, but the police had to get those conversations somehow. They know which phone was used.

Exactly, I don’t think they would just use BB or JM’s phone bc that would be too obvious. Technically, it had to be CB’s phone. That would be part of the story they were trying to set up.

Yes, obviously.

Didn't they replace their phones and wipe their accounts? So maybe they did use their own phones. The stupidity of the entire ruse means they were likely stupid about this too

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I believe LE can subpoena Telegram.

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Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

I don’t know what your problem is but you’re talking to multiple people on this thread. You’ve said “just stop“ to multiple people. Are you related to Christine? I’m just wondering because there are certain posters on this thread who fail to believe she could’ve had extra marital affairs or involved in any type of fetish activities with her husband. Again, no one is suggesting she created the Flife account. We know what law enforcement has said. But just because someone has sexual fantasies/activities that seem out of bounds of your own, does not make them a bad person. No one is trying to shame the victim here. Just trying to figure out why and how this all happened.

What happened was that BB and JPM murdered people in cold blood.

[Anonymous]

Everyone wondering why Christine didn't run away immediately are forgetting that Joe thought they had agreed on a rape scenario - so even if she was screaming "let me go, who are you, why are you here, get out", he could have thought it was all part of the game that the person he thought was Christine had agreed upon and kept going until Brendan burst in.

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Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

I don’t know what your problem is but you’re talking to multiple people on this thread. You’ve said “just stop“ to multiple people. Are you related to Christine? I’m just wondering because there are certain posters on this thread who fail to believe she could’ve had extra marital affairs or involved in any type of fetish activities with her husband. Again, no one is suggesting she created the Flife account. We know what law enforcement has said. But just because someone has sexual fantasies/activities that seem out of bounds of your own, does not make them a bad person. No one is trying to shame the victim here. Just trying to figure out why and how this all happened.

DP but there are several of us that have some respect for the dead that are tired of you and your fiends just flat out making up scenarios. I mean, you said "you are not thinking creatively enough" which means you are clearing just making stuff up. Let's please stick to what we know on this thread instead of coming up with wild fantasy scenarios. Two people died. We don't know yet how it happened. There's no reason to make things up to fit some weird fantasy in your head of how it all went down. And no, you're not speculating, you're flat out making up a story.

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Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

I don’t know what your problem is but you’re talking to multiple people on this thread. You’ve said “just stop“ to multiple people. Are you related to Christine? I’m just wondering because there are certain posters on this thread who fail to believe she could’ve had extra marital affairs or involved in any type of fetish activities with her husband. Again, no one is suggesting she created the Flife account. We know what law enforcement has said. But just because someone has sexual fantasies/activities that seem out of bounds of your own, does not make them a bad person. No one is trying to shame the victim here. Just trying to figure out why and how this all happened.

DP but there are several of us that have some respect for the dead that are tired of you and your fiends just flat out making up scenarios. I mean, you said "you are not thinking creatively enough" which means you are clearing just making stuff up. Let's please stick to what we know on this thread instead of coming up with wild fantasy scenarios. Two people died. We don't know yet how it happened. There's no reason to make things up to fit some weird fantasy in your head of how it all went down. And no, you're not speculating, you're flat out making up a story.

This is a discussion board, not a news article posting board. Practically the entirety of this thread has been speculation. If you’re satisfied with the answers you have now, you’re free to move along and save your fragility because there’s going to be speculation here until November and beyond for Brendan’s trial.

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This thread has gone off the rails - did people from some other website find it and start posting here?

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No, there have been attempts to derail all along. A huge number of posts on the locked thread were deleted. Just don't feed the trolls or you are helping them.

[Anonymous]

I have been reading this thread on and off for a while…the things that IMO have not been mentioned:
- timing: if CB had any knowledge about third person coming for some sex games, very unusual to plan it/agree for Friday morning at 7:30am.
-CB’s job: as a nicu nurse she worked nights…could it be that she was asleep after the long night shift that morning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been reading this thread on and off for a while…the things that IMO have not been mentioned:
- timing: if CB had any knowledge about third person coming for some sex games, very unusual to plan it/agree for Friday morning at 7:30am.
-CB’s job: as a nicu nurse she worked nights…could it be that she was asleep after the long night shift that morning

I thought they were celebrating his birthday the evening before, a friend/Neighbor posted that they had stopped by to drop him off a gift.

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Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

This has all been discussed on the thread, she had a blood clotting disorder.

I sincerely doubt she thought JR being held at gunpoint by BB and AP, then shot in the head and stomach was "part of the fun."

JR did not harm CB, per LE she was repeatedly stabbed in the neck by her husband, one would struggle, even against restraints in that situation unless sedated in some manner. It would be an involuntary fight for survival. If she was moved, she was not on the bed. So where was she when Joe was literally backed into a corner and down on his knees?

Yes, I understand about the blood clotting disorder, but keep in mind that
knife play does not always include actually cutting. It’s the illusion or suspense of using a knife, but not actually cutting.

Pls read the thread or some of the long articles like WP has done. CB DID NOT create a fetish account per LE. It was done by BB and AP as a ruse and a lure to get JR in the home to try to pin their murder of CB on a patsy. Then they have tried to smear the victims, including on this site. So spare us the endless rumination that shows you have not read the thread, media articles or that you have an agenda. JR was induced by BB/AP to bring a knife the better to try to pin BB stabbing of CB on a patsy. LE has the communications.

You are misunderstanding or not thinking creatively enough. I have been on these threads since day one. Literally the first page of the first thread. Two things can be true. She may not have created the account, but she may have been engaged in some sexual fantasies with her husband including knife play. he could’ve even said as part of my birthday gift, I’m bringing someone else to have a threesome with us, but that doesn’t mean she was part of the fetlife acct. A million different things could’ve happened to explain why there was no struggle. If she wasn’t drugged, there must’ve been some level of trust in the room. I’m suggesting BB could have wanted to do knife play with her AND since she trusted him, She would have no reason to feel unsafe until her neck was slit!

Just stop.

I don’t know what your problem is but you’re talking to multiple people on this thread. You’ve said “just stop“ to multiple people. Are you related to Christine? I’m just wondering because there are certain posters on this thread who fail to believe she could’ve had extra marital affairs or involved in any type of fetish activities with her husband. Again, no one is suggesting she created the Flife account. We know what law enforcement has said. But just because someone has sexual fantasies/activities that seem out of bounds of your own, does not make them a bad person. No one is trying to shame the victim here. Just trying to figure out why and how this all happened.

Why and how this all happened is down to BB and AP not CB and your fantasies about her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have been reading this thread on and off for a while…the things that IMO have not been mentioned:
- timing: if CB had any knowledge about third person coming for some sex games, very unusual to plan it/agree for Friday morning at 7:30am.
-CB’s job: as a nicu nurse she worked nights…could it be that she was asleep after the long night shift that morning

I thought they were celebrating his birthday the evening before, a friend/Neighbor posted that they had stopped by to drop him off a gift.

This.

It may also be that as part of the celebration she was slipped something to render her not a threat to the plan. That way only JR would have to be controlled with guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the guns had silencers.

Also wonder how they were sure the 4 year old was contained and would not come upstairs or go out into the yard to a neighbor?

Respectfully,

No silencers/suppressors. This would have complicated things even more. A legal suppressor would require lots and lots of paperwork. It would also require adding different barrels to the firearms. It would make bbs firearm incompatible with the most holsters. IRS doesn’t prohibit suppressors specifically. The irs does prohibit modifications to service weapons. I believe in some reporting a photo of the gun Jm used was shown. I don’t recall a suppressor. Idk if a suppressor is marketed for a 43x.

The sound of the gunshots may have been captured on a ring camera.

I don’t know the order of the killings.

The grip on glocks is very porous. It’s rough to aid in getting a firm grip. I believe if one had blood on their hands and washed their hands and handled a Glock, some blood would be found on the weapon.

BB really mucked this up.