Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been surprised there was no attempt to stage the "forced entry" claim. Seemed to think that he'd be given 100% credibility by LE re: his story. Probably should have inquired about his wife's condition too. Would have looked better.

Police have always said no signs of forced entry. That was part of why they did not believe him from the beginning.

Wonder how BB was injured that day?

BB always complained of a knee injury he received playing soccer in high school. He tore his ACL. BB and TB never stopped bringing it up as if he was an extremely talented player that could have gone pro. He was MEDIOCRE AT BEST.

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been surprised there was no attempt to stage the "forced entry" claim. Seemed to think that he'd be given 100% credibility by LE re: his story. Probably should have inquired about his wife's condition too. Would have looked better.

Police have always said no signs of forced entry. That was part of why they did not believe him from the beginning.

Wonder how BB was injured that day?

BB always complained of a knee injury he received playing soccer in high school. He tore his ACL. BB and TB never stopped bringing it up as if he was an extremely talented player that could have gone pro. He was MEDIOCRE AT BEST.

Probably a bullshit “oh my leg, my knee, I need help too…” got him right out of the scene to work on his twisted story

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

Yea, the daughter would be able to confirm if she saw CB that am.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

You need to hate someone too much to stab them and let them bleed to death…. I think if BB’s sole purpose was to get rid of CB, he would just kill her quick and be done w it

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

I think it makes most sense if they were back in the house by the time JR arrived. Otherwise too much could go wrong.

She was not stabbed before JR was there if his knife, that he had been told to bring, was used.

BB really thought he was SO clever.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

Since per LE JR's knife was used, I suspect he was dying on the floor while they rummaged in his backpack and stabbed CB to death.

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Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

You need to hate someone too much to stab them and let them bleed to death…. I think if BB’s sole purpose was to get rid of CB, he would just kill her quick and be done w it

That was his purpose and he stabbed her several times in the NECK with a BIG knife. Wasn't death by 10,000 cuts.

If she was sedated in some way wonder if that slowed her bleeding out a bit, any med folks or pharmacists on the thread?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

I think it makes most sense if they were back in the house by the time JR arrived. Otherwise too much could go wrong.

She was not stabbed before JR was there if his knife, that he had been told to bring, was used.

BB really thought he was SO clever.

That is true.

Prosecution this week said that they had ring camera footage that shows the timing of when everyone entered the home. But they did they break down that timeline? Are we sure that they came in after him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without being drugged there is no way there would be no signs of struggle on CB imo.

Unless she truly thought it was a sexual encounter, and the knife was part of the “fun”.

[Anonymous]

This early Reddit thread has posters who knew Joe and Christine.

RIP to the victims.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/11b54bh/two_dead_in_home_in_herndon/

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still fascinated/intrigued by what CB was doing when BB put JR on his knees and shot him.. And what CB was doing while BB rummaged around for a meat-cleaver-knife. Is CB really looking down the barrel of a gun held by JM?

CB knows JM and would be looking her in the eye saying "what are you doing?!" If I were CB, I'd be running for cover or to escape. Maybe JM was rummaging for the knife while BB held a gun on CB. CB might be less inclined to run knowing that BB just shot JR and BB is trained to shoot people.

That makes more sense... that JM was getting the knife out of the backpack while BB held a gun on CB. He's truly sociopathic.

Still, the logistics are confounding... how does BB switch out his gun for a knife while holding CB at bay -- and then getting close enough to her to hold her down and slash her. You'd think there would be some opportunity for CB to fight... unless they restrained/tied her. That seems like the only way she can't fight.

It's very curious how two people -- including one who has martial arts training -- were subdued.

It is extremely likely he slipped sleeping pills into her drink, are you unaware of the current trial in France? The victim's daughter has set up a foundation to publicize how common this is. Control over the victims/variables was key to the success of the plan. Drugged CB and 2 guns on JR. JR ambushed and shot before CB stabbed by BB with the knife JR was told to bring that they got from his backpack. Total control. Even if she was tied up there would have been struggle marks. There were not. She was chemically restrained in all likelihood. Joe was backed into a corner and on his knees when shot by 2 people. Not curious at all. Tragic.

Says someone with literally ZERO evidence of this.

No signs of a struggle, even against restraints. What is your explanation of THAT?

Not PP but how about a headlock followed by stabbing? BB was twice as big as CB.

DP, sure, but explain the timing? What was she doing while Joe was shot? Or alternatively what was Joe doing while Christine was stabbed?

I think CB was already stabbed when JR arrived. Hence why he was probably forced to kneel down on the corner while having a gun to his head.

JR arrives and waits until BB is upstairs, he goes up, BB points the gun at him and the rest we already know….

It was early am. He could even have stabbed her waking up.

I can't think there were two gunshots in the home that neighbors wouldn't have been able to hear, with time to do the stabbing second. Did any neighbors ever help create a timeline? Not everyone was already gone to work/school at that hour. The houses on the street are not far apart.