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Anonymous wrote:That's correct. It's a world of meteoric goalie punts, designated goalkeepers, pressured goal kicks, "boot it out of there" parental advice, positional specializations, and other rare delights!

Take it with a grain of salt, though: I'm burned out . . .

one kid left NCSL and tried ccl . . . actually a lil better, but not too much

Style of play is team/club dependent. A league does not dictate it. We made the opposite move.

Bingo.

+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's correct. It's a world of meteoric goalie punts, designated goalkeepers, pressured goal kicks, "boot it out of there" parental advice, positional specializations, and other rare delights!

Take it with a grain of salt, though: I'm burned out . . .

one kid left NCSL and tried ccl . . . actually a lil better, but not too much

Style of play is team/club dependent. A league does not dictate it. We made the opposite move.

agree . . .but too much focus on winning, hated that part. ruined some of the development

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SYC has not had great soccer for a very long time...

SYC wins by playing dirty, not by playing good soccer.

[Anonymous]

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+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

Isn't that the US Youth Soccer rule, though? No u9 teams should be punting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

Isn't that the US Youth Soccer rule, though? No u9 teams should be punting.

oh they do, yes they do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

Isn't that the US Youth Soccer rule, though? No u9 teams should be punting.

oh they do, yes they do.

??????

What do you think this means?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

Isn't that the US Youth Soccer rule, though? No u9 teams should be punting.

oh they do, yes they do.

??????

What do you think this means?

It means we've played against several U9 teams doing the long punts out of the goal.

[Anonymous]

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+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

Isn't that the US Youth Soccer rule, though? No u9 teams should be punting.

oh they do, yes they do.

??????

What do you think this means?

It means we've played against several U9 teams doing the long punts out of the goal.

us too . . . that is ncsl for you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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+1. It's definitely Club/coach dependent. The league doesn't dictate it. The Club has to not care about sheer wins early-on.

Our U9 ncsl boys team is not allowed to punt. They are developing possession-style out of the back. They rotate positions. Nobody has a set position.

Big contrast to other child's first two years where he only played striker and was counted on to run down the big punt.

Isn't that the US Youth Soccer rule, though? No u9 teams should be punting.

oh they do, yes they do.

??????

What do you think this means?

It means we've played against several U9 teams doing the long punts out of the goal.

us too . . . that is ncsl for you

It's both. My kid assigned to chasing down the long punts was in CCL at 9 and 10.

Again, leagues don't dictate style of play. That's at the club/team level.

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^but it's a NEW rule. So if that happened when your kid was 9 and 10 and he or she is no longer 9 or 10, that is irrelevant. That's what I was trying to point out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^but it's a NEW rule. So if that happened when your kid was 9 and 10 and he or she is no longer 9 or 10, that is irrelevant. That's what I was trying to point out.

It's not the rule yet. Hasn't been implemented.

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Anonymous wrote:^but it's a NEW rule. So if that happened when your kid was 9 and 10 and he or she is no longer 9 or 10, that is irrelevant. That's what I was trying to point out.

It's not the rule yet. Hasn't been implemented.

And some teams make a point to try and play out of the back but at the end of the day it's up to a 9 or 10 year old what he or she wants to do with the ball. Sometimes that means an easy short pass and sometimes it means punting the ball as hard as possible. Coaches can try to narrow down how many kids play in goal, but there is usually some kind of rotation of kids in goal. Until it is a hard and fast rule it is still going to happen. I even see heading sometimes which is supposed to be completely forbidden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^but it's a NEW rule. So if that happened when your kid was 9 and 10 and he or she is no longer 9 or 10, that is irrelevant. That's what I was trying to point out.

It's not the rule yet. Hasn't been implemented.

And some teams make a point to try and play out of the back but at the end of the day it's up to a 9 or 10 year old what he or she wants to do with the ball. Sometimes that means an easy short pass and sometimes it means punting the ball as hard as possible. Coaches can try to narrow down how many kids play in goal, but there is usually some kind of rotation of kids in goal. Until it is a hard and fast rule it is still going to happen. I even see heading sometimes which is supposed to be completely forbidden.

I still think it has to do with marking tight on goal kicks. If a coach is telling his team to mark tight, what is the GK supposed to do? The right decision is to punt because that's where the space is or maybe not punt but to boot it in a gap. If you want them to play out from the back, coaches need to no pressure goal kicks. That's the problem. The trainer/coach on my son's team TOLD them to mark tight at U9 because the GK couldn't kick far so it would result in easy goals. WTF? However, there are some teams that will still punt even if the defense does not pressure. Sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^but it's a NEW rule. So if that happened when your kid was 9 and 10 and he or she is no longer 9 or 10, that is irrelevant. That's what I was trying to point out.

It's not the rule yet. Hasn't been implemented.

And some teams make a point to try and play out of the back but at the end of the day it's up to a 9 or 10 year old what he or she wants to do with the ball. Sometimes that means an easy short pass and sometimes it means punting the ball as hard as possible. Coaches can try to narrow down how many kids play in goal, but there is usually some kind of rotation of kids in goal. Until it is a hard and fast rule it is still going to happen. I even see heading sometimes which is supposed to be completely forbidden.

I still think it has to do with marking tight on goal kicks. If a coach is telling his team to mark tight, what is the GK supposed to do? The right decision is to punt because that's where the space is or maybe not punt but to boot it in a gap. If you want them to play out from the back, coaches need to no pressure goal kicks. That's the problem. The trainer/coach on my son's team TOLD them to mark tight at U9 because the GK couldn't kick far so it would result in easy goals. WTF? However, there are some teams that will still punt even if the defense does not pressure. Sucks.

I know a coach that put an extra defender into the box and told his teams to kick every goal kick as hard as they could out of bounds. He was so concerned with the GK making a mistake and giving up an easy goal that he wouldn't even attempt to play out from the back.

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I get playing out of the back but what's the point of doing it without pressure. What are they really learning. Want them to really develop and know how to problem solve, let the other coaches press. Teach the goalie how to quickly change directions, good 1st touch, lines of support/pass. My kid's team plays out the back and our coach wants the players to be able to break down the pressure and successfully get the ball up the field without the need for long kicks or punts. When the ball is in play, the objective is to recover it. Practice it with pressure in practice so it's nothing new in games. Practice how you expect to play. Our coach tells our kids to stay a couple of yards behind the 18 and once ball is played, it's in. He allows the other team some space but I know he welcomes the pressure on his defenders.