Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get playing out of the back but what's the point of doing it without pressure. What are they really learning. Want them to really develop and know how to problem solve, let the other coaches press. Teach the goalie how to quickly change directions, good 1st touch, lines of support/pass. My kid's team plays out the back and our coach wants the players to be able to break down the pressure and successfully get the ball up the field without the need for long kicks or punts. When the ball is in play, the objective is to recover it. Practice it with pressure in practice so it's nothing new in games. Practice how you expect to play. Our coach tells our kids to stay a couple of yards behind the 18 and once ball is played, it's in. He allows the other team some space but I know he welcomes the pressure on his defenders.

I certainly agree with you at older ages but not at U9/U10. I believe they need to comfortably receive the ball before the pressure comes to build that confidence and the habits before full pressure at U11ish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get playing out of the back but what's the point of doing it without pressure. What are they really learning. Want them to really develop and know how to problem solve, let the other coaches press. Teach the goalie how to quickly change directions, good 1st touch, lines of support/pass. My kid's team plays out the back and our coach wants the players to be able to break down the pressure and successfully get the ball up the field without the need for long kicks or punts. When the ball is in play, the objective is to recover it. Practice it with pressure in practice so it's nothing new in games. Practice how you expect to play. Our coach tells our kids to stay a couple of yards behind the 18 and once ball is played, it's in. He allows the other team some space but I know he welcomes the pressure on his defenders.

I certainly agree with you at older ages but not at U9/U10. I believe they need to comfortably receive the ball before the pressure comes to build that confidence and the habits before full pressure at U11ish.

My bad, I overlooked that the conversation had been specific to U9/U10. I can see how it can be helpful at the younger age groups but even then I think that kids need to be able to handle it under pressure and that is what practice is for. Maybe in rec have a restriction line but in travel kids should be prepared to be put under pressure in game situations. That is why we pay the coaches so that they can prepare our kids to be better at the game. Work on 1st touch under pressure and the kids will figure out ways to improve and solve the difficult situation. Our team is U11 but our team has been doing that since U9. I also see many teams trying to force the ball to a completely marked player which makes no sense. Teach your players to move and break free from marking (basketball in winter helps ), teach the keeper to change directions, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get playing out of the back but what's the point of doing it without pressure. What are they really learning. Want them to really develop and know how to problem solve, let the other coaches press. Teach the goalie how to quickly change directions, good 1st touch, lines of support/pass. My kid's team plays out the back and our coach wants the players to be able to break down the pressure and successfully get the ball up the field without the need for long kicks or punts. When the ball is in play, the objective is to recover it. Practice it with pressure in practice so it's nothing new in games. Practice how you expect to play. Our coach tells our kids to stay a couple of yards behind the 18 and once ball is played, it's in. He allows the other team some space but I know he welcomes the pressure on his defenders.

I certainly agree with you at older ages but not at U9/U10. I believe they need to comfortably receive the ball before the pressure comes to build that confidence and the habits before full pressure at U11ish.

My bad, I overlooked that the conversation had been specific to U9/U10. I can see how it can be helpful at the younger age groups but even then I think that kids need to be able to handle it under pressure and that is what practice is for. Maybe in rec have a restriction line but in travel kids should be prepared to be put under pressure in game situations. That is why we pay the coaches so that they can prepare our kids to be better at the game. Work on 1st touch under pressure and the kids will figure out ways to improve and solve the difficult situation. Our team is U11 but our team has been doing that since U9. I also see many teams trying to force the ball to a completely marked player which makes no sense. Teach your players to move and break free from marking (basketball in winter helps ), teach the keeper to change directions, etc.

Coaches at younger ages really don't want to spend a lot of time on "set pieces" like goal kicks. They want to be focusing on more general skills and game awareness.

So then you sometimes end up with a team that simply can't get a goal kick to go anywhere. The keeper can barely kick it out of the box, and the attacking team just swarms the first kid who receives it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get playing out of the back but what's the point of doing it without pressure. What are they really learning. Want them to really develop and know how to problem solve, let the other coaches press. Teach the goalie how to quickly change directions, good 1st touch, lines of support/pass. My kid's team plays out the back and our coach wants the players to be able to break down the pressure and successfully get the ball up the field without the need for long kicks or punts. When the ball is in play, the objective is to recover it. Practice it with pressure in practice so it's nothing new in games. Practice how you expect to play. Our coach tells our kids to stay a couple of yards behind the 18 and once ball is played, it's in. He allows the other team some space but I know he welcomes the pressure on his defenders.

I certainly agree with you at older ages but not at U9/U10. I believe they need to comfortably receive the ball before the pressure comes to build that confidence and the habits before full pressure at U11ish.

My bad, I overlooked that the conversation had been specific to U9/U10. I can see how it can be helpful at the younger age groups but even then I think that kids need to be able to handle it under pressure and that is what practice is for. Maybe in rec have a restriction line but in travel kids should be prepared to be put under pressure in game situations. That is why we pay the coaches so that they can prepare our kids to be better at the game. Work on 1st touch under pressure and the kids will figure out ways to improve and solve the difficult situation. Our team is U11 but our team has been doing that since U9. I also see many teams trying to force the ball to a completely marked player which makes no sense. Teach your players to move and break free from marking (basketball in winter helps ), teach the keeper to change directions, etc.

Coaches at younger ages really don't want to spend a lot of time on "set pieces" like goal kicks. They want to be focusing on more general skills and game awareness.

So then you sometimes end up with a team that simply can't get a goal kick to go anywhere. The keeper can barely kick it out of the box, and the attacking team just swarms the first kid who receives it.

Who's talking about training set pieces? Don't you scrimmage in practice and don't you take goal kicks? Are those not teaching moments? Are working on ball control, 1st touch, receiving, turning, passing, dribbling by a defender not "general skills"? Are positioning, moving off the ball, providing support, passing lanes, not game awareness??? Those are all requirements to play out the back. How do you emphasize playing out the back if you don't show them how you expect it to be done. Simply saying "No punting" is not coaching or teaching. SMH. Simple 1v1, 1v2 2v1 exercises translate into playing out of the back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get playing out of the back but what's the point of doing it without pressure. What are they really learning. Want them to really develop and know how to problem solve, let the other coaches press. Teach the goalie how to quickly change directions, good 1st touch, lines of support/pass. My kid's team plays out the back and our coach wants the players to be able to break down the pressure and successfully get the ball up the field without the need for long kicks or punts. When the ball is in play, the objective is to recover it. Practice it with pressure in practice so it's nothing new in games. Practice how you expect to play. Our coach tells our kids to stay a couple of yards behind the 18 and once ball is played, it's in. He allows the other team some space but I know he welcomes the pressure on his defenders.

I certainly agree with you at older ages but not at U9/U10. I believe they need to comfortably receive the ball before the pressure comes to build that confidence and the habits before full pressure at U11ish.

My bad, I overlooked that the conversation had been specific to U9/U10. I can see how it can be helpful at the younger age groups but even then I think that kids need to be able to handle it under pressure and that is what practice is for. Maybe in rec have a restriction line but in travel kids should be prepared to be put under pressure in game situations. That is why we pay the coaches so that they can prepare our kids to be better at the game. Work on 1st touch under pressure and the kids will figure out ways to improve and solve the difficult situation. Our team is U11 but our team has been doing that since U9. I also see many teams trying to force the ball to a completely marked player which makes no sense. Teach your players to move and break free from marking (basketball in winter helps ), teach the keeper to change directions, etc.

Coaches at younger ages really don't want to spend a lot of time on "set pieces" like goal kicks. They want to be focusing on more general skills and game awareness.

So then you sometimes end up with a team that simply can't get a goal kick to go anywhere. The keeper can barely kick it out of the box, and the attacking team just swarms the first kid who receives it.

Who's talking about training set pieces? Don't you scrimmage in practice and don't you take goal kicks? Are those not teaching moments? Are working on ball control, 1st touch, receiving, turning, passing, dribbling by a defender not "general skills"? Are positioning, moving off the ball, providing support, passing lanes, not game awareness??? Those are all requirements to play out the back. How do you emphasize playing out the back if you don't show them how you expect it to be done. Simply saying "No punting" is not coaching or teaching. SMH. Simple 1v1, 1v2 2v1 exercises translate into playing out of the back.

Yep, practice like you intend to play.

[Anonymous]

If you practice goal kicks and other set pieces at practice with U9-U10 players, you're doing game prep instead of player development. You're rolling one soccer ball out so the kids have to fight for touches rather than engaging the players with individual and small-sided activities that maximize touches. You're going with "Peak by Friday" to win meaningless games rather than giving a damn about your players' futures. Don't do it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you practice goal kicks and other set pieces at practice with U9-U10 players, you're doing game prep instead of player development. You're rolling one soccer ball out so the kids have to fight for touches rather than engaging the players with individual and small-sided activities that maximize touches. You're going with "Peak by Friday" to win meaningless games rather than giving a damn about your players' futures. Don't do it!

don't think pp is saying to practice set pieces. In the scrimmage part of the practice (after all the player development focus is done), the ball goes out through end line, take a goal kick, opposition applies pressure and you try to play it out.

[Anonymous]

Is this the lowest ODSL sportsmanship score ever? It's 5.8.

http://www.odsl.org/teams/83965439/84656856-84470053/TEAM.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this the lowest ODSL sportsmanship score ever? It's 5.8.

http://www.odsl.org/teams/83965439/84656856-84470053/TEAM.html

the weekend's game boosted them to an outstanding 6.1. smh

[Anonymous]

Guess which team won the tournament this past weekend?

The Bunkers. Team that leaves nine players in and around the penalty area for the entire first half.

The Aesthetes. Team that plays possession-oriented style, slowly working the ball upfield.

The Battering Rams. Team with physical players that literally use their bodies as battering rams to knock the ball forward with heads, knees, shoulders, shins, faces, you name it.

The Blasters. Team that kicks the ball as viciously and as high in the air as possible, almost always with just one touch.

????

I understand if you don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess which team won the tournament this past weekend?

The Bunkers. Team that leaves nine players in and around the penalty area for the entire first half.

The Aesthetes. Team that plays possession-oriented style, slowly working the ball upfield.

The Battering Rams. Team with physical players that literally use their bodies as battering rams to knock the ball forward with heads, knees, shoulders, shins, faces, you name it.

The Blasters. Team that kicks the ball as viciously and as high in the air as possible, almost always with just one touch.

????

I understand if you don't care.

What age group? What tournament?

At younger ages, I would expect the Blasters and Battering Rams to win, though there's also no substitute for sheer speed at that level.

At older ages, the Aesthetes have a better chance of controlling the game. But the Bunkers will also be a challenge.

[Anonymous]

Well, you're basically on the money. Here's how they finished:

1. Battering Rams
2. Aesthetes
3. Blasters
4. Bunkers

U13B

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, you're basically on the money. Here's how they finished:

1. Battering Rams
2. Aesthetes
3. Blasters
4. Bunkers

U13B

Columbia tournament?

[Anonymous]

Correct

[Anonymous]

Is winter soccer training valuable or are your kids playing a different sport instead?