RM Cluster Overcrowding?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Driving to Metro this morning. There is also a 200 unit housing development proposed for the corner of Twinbrook Pkwy and Ardennes. Not completely sure, but that must also feed into JW and RM.


That's not City of Rockville, it's Montgomery County.

http://www.mcatlas.org/Development_Info/Default.aspx?apno=320180200

Since it's garden apartments, it would be expected to generate 17 middle-schoolers and 22 high-schoolers.



Why does it matter that it is MoCo? It still feeds into RM. Just pointing out the additional development going on in that cluster..

Plus, another project is slated for the corner of Rockville Pike and Edmonston. Right by the bridge that goes over the train tracks.

So, three new housing developments in the cluster. Plus, the already finished apartments/condos. Quite a few more students.


Because the issue is the City of Rockville potentially raising the moratorium threshold.

Also, HOW many more students?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Driving to Metro this morning. There is also a 200 unit housing development proposed for the corner of Twinbrook Pkwy and Ardennes. Not completely sure, but that must also feed into JW and RM.


That's not City of Rockville, it's Montgomery County.

http://www.mcatlas.org/Development_Info/Default.aspx?apno=320180200

Since it's garden apartments, it would be expected to generate 17 middle-schoolers and 22 high-schoolers.



Why does it matter that it is MoCo? It still feeds into RM. Just pointing out the additional development going on in that cluster..

Plus, another project is slated for the corner of Rockville Pike and Edmonston. Right by the bridge that goes over the train tracks.

So, three new housing developments in the cluster. Plus, the already finished apartments/condos. Quite a few more students.


Because the issue is the City of Rockville potentially raising the moratorium threshold.

Also, HOW many more students?


How is the county building in the RM zone without raising its level?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Driving to Metro this morning. There is also a 200 unit housing development proposed for the corner of Twinbrook Pkwy and Ardennes. Not completely sure, but that must also feed into JW and RM.


That's not City of Rockville, it's Montgomery County.

http://www.mcatlas.org/Development_Info/Default.aspx?apno=320180200

Since it's garden apartments, it would be expected to generate 17 middle-schoolers and 22 high-schoolers.



Why does it matter that it is MoCo? It still feeds into RM. Just pointing out the additional development going on in that cluster..

Plus, another project is slated for the corner of Rockville Pike and Edmonston. Right by the bridge that goes over the train tracks.

So, three new housing developments in the cluster. Plus, the already finished apartments/condos. Quite a few more students.


Because the issue is the City of Rockville potentially raising the moratorium threshold.

Also, HOW many more students?


How is the county building in the RM zone without raising its level?


The county isn't. The county building moratorium is 120%. If projected enrollment for 5 years from now (2023-2024 for fiscal year 2019) exceeds capacity by 20%, the county planning department stops accepting development applications.

(And, more fundamentally - the county isn't building. Builders are building, as allowed by the county.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Driving to Metro this morning. There is also a 200 unit housing development proposed for the corner of Twinbrook Pkwy and Ardennes. Not completely sure, but that must also feed into JW and RM.


That's not City of Rockville, it's Montgomery County.

http://www.mcatlas.org/Development_Info/Default.aspx?apno=320180200

Since it's garden apartments, it would be expected to generate 17 middle-schoolers and 22 high-schoolers.



Why does it matter that it is MoCo? It still feeds into RM. Just pointing out the additional development going on in that cluster..

Plus, another project is slated for the corner of Rockville Pike and Edmonston. Right by the bridge that goes over the train tracks.

So, three new housing developments in the cluster. Plus, the already finished apartments/condos. Quite a few more students.


Because the issue is the City of Rockville potentially raising the moratorium threshold.

Also, HOW many more students?


We have no idea how many students. They can project that it will only be 5, but then a dozen other families with multiple kids use that address and it ends up being dozens more.

Yes, I recognize that it’s the City of Rockville raising the threshold. However, it is reasonable to consider that these MULTIPLE other housing developments will also have an impact on the MS/HS. Important for people to know that this one building at RTC is NOT the only additional development being planned.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Driving to Metro this morning. There is also a 200 unit housing development proposed for the corner of Twinbrook Pkwy and Ardennes. Not completely sure, but that must also feed into JW and RM.


That's not City of Rockville, it's Montgomery County.

http://www.mcatlas.org/Development_Info/Default.aspx?apno=320180200

Since it's garden apartments, it would be expected to generate 17 middle-schoolers and 22 high-schoolers.



Why does it matter that it is MoCo? It still feeds into RM. Just pointing out the additional development going on in that cluster..

Plus, another project is slated for the corner of Rockville Pike and Edmonston. Right by the bridge that goes over the train tracks.

So, three new housing developments in the cluster. Plus, the already finished apartments/condos. Quite a few more students.


Because the issue is the City of Rockville potentially raising the moratorium threshold.

Also, HOW many more students?


How is the county building in the RM zone without raising its level?


The county isn't. The county building moratorium is 120%. If projected enrollment for 5 years from now (2023-2024 for fiscal year 2019) exceeds capacity by 20%, the county planning department stops accepting development applications.

(And, more fundamentally - the county isn't building. Builders are building, as allowed by the county.)


The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

We have no idea how many students. They can project that it will only be 5, but then a dozen other families with multiple kids use that address and it ends up being dozens more.

Yes, I recognize that it’s the City of Rockville raising the threshold. However, it is reasonable to consider that these MULTIPLE other housing developments will also have an impact on the MS/HS. Important for people to know that this one building at RTC is NOT the only additional development being planned.


The projections are based on the addresses that families provide to MCPS. So if a dozen other families with multiple kids are using that address, then they are included in the projections.

It's true that we have no idea how many students, in the sense that we won't know how many students until it has actually happened. It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?


Why not? People want the city to drop back to 110. I think the county should do it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?


Why not? People want the city to drop back to 110. I think the county should do it.


You want the county to do something. "Why not" is unlikely to persuade people. So: why?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?


Why not? People want the city to drop back to 110. I think the county should do it.


You want the county to do something. "Why not" is unlikely to persuade people. So: why?



Why do people want the city to do it? People say it over and over on this thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?


Why not? People want the city to drop back to 110. I think the county should do it.


You want the county to do something. "Why not" is unlikely to persuade people. So: why?



Why do people want the city to do it? People say it over and over on this thread.


Yes, why? Why 110% instead of 120%? Or 115%, or 105%, or 100%, or whatever other number you might support?
Anonymous
If MCPS could get their act together and build schools or additions in a timely way, it wouldn't be necessary. But the Capital Planning dept can't plan their way out of a paper bag. Their student projections are always wrong, they can't build fast enough, do not communicate with communities about how/when/if they intend to resolve overcrowding. Instead it happens over and over again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If MCPS could get their act together and build schools or additions in a timely way, it wouldn't be necessary. But the Capital Planning dept can't plan their way out of a paper bag. Their student projections are always wrong, they can't build fast enough, do not communicate with communities about how/when/if they intend to resolve overcrowding. Instead it happens over and over again.
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Building requires $.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?


Because 110% is 10% higher than capacity. In simpler terms, it means 2500 school capacity can have 2500, 2600, 2700, 2750 students. That's enough poor situation for kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The county should lower its moritorium level to 110%


Why?


Why not? People want the city to drop back to 110. I think the county should do it.


You want the county to do something. "Why not" is unlikely to persuade people. So: why?



Why do people want the city to do it? People say it over and over on this thread.


Because city control the constructions and we pay extra tax to city. If city won't look after best interest of citizens then city shouldn't exist.
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