TJ Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

What was wrong with the SHSAT?
Why did they switch to Quant Q?

[Anonymous]

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

All for more diversity, but “whatever form it takes” is the very core problem. So now Asians’ “cultural emphasis on education” is a sin, and we should start a race to the bottom and drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator? Hats off to you for your activism, but let’s be clear: equal outcomes are not the solution to equal opportunities, in any society that wants to thrive and be competitive. Education IS about a nation's competitiveness. You start with a misguided premise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

What was wrong with the SHSAT?
Why did they switch to Quant Q?

They didn’t use the SHSAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

All for more diversity, but “whatever form it takes” is the very core problem. So now Asians’ “cultural emphasis on education” is a sin, and we should start a race to the bottom and drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator? Hats off to you for your activism, but let’s be clear: equal outcomes are not the solution to equal opportunities, in any society that wants to thrive and be competitive. Education IS about a nation's competitiveness. You start with a misguided premise.

Public education is meant to be the great equalizer. In this setting, why should a student with a parent who is an undocumented immigrant, a drug addict, or a single parent have fewer opportunities than a student with a dedicated Asian parent?

[Anonymous]

Public education opportunities are tiered for a reason. If a student is struggling in general education, placing them in an advanced program would only hurt the student. Skin color shouldn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

I agree, and if I thought Asians were discriminated against, I'd be outraged. The reality is that admissions reflect interest. The data shows that the various racial groups are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admit/apply ratio. The issue isn't the selection process but getting others more interested in this program and eliminating the barriers that discourage them from applying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public education opportunities are tiered for a reason. If a student is struggling in general education, placing them in an advanced program would only hurt the student. Skin color shouldn't matter.

Good thing nobody is doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

What was wrong with the SHSAT?
Why did they switch to Quant Q?

They didn’t use the SHSAT.

Elite prep centers were debriefing students over the years to compile in-house question banks to give their customers an edge. This has been discussed here 123456 times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

What was wrong with the SHSAT?
Why did they switch to Quant Q?

They didn’t use the SHSAT.

Elite prep centers were debriefing students over the years to compile in-house question banks to give their customers an edge. This has been discussed here 123456 times.

Not just academic prep centers, sports training outfits compile the best drills that have been proven to be effective so players have best chance to get on public school team?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Public education opportunities are tiered for a reason. If a student is struggling in general education, placing them in an advanced program would only hurt the student. Skin color shouldn't matter.

Good thing nobody is doing that.

Yes they are.

The paper GBRS form for AAP was race blind.

The new “HOPE” form states the child’s skin color and SES status BEFORE it even gets to the watered-down “academic” factors for the Advanced Academic Program (AAP).

Stop lying, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

If the lie “affluent families are buying access to question banks” helps you sleep better at night, go ahead and cling to it. How about getting a real job, working harder, getting involved and motivating your kids, so they too can attend not “wealthy schools” but academically excellent schools. Trying is better than whining.

My role as activist might be seen as whining, if that’s how you want to put it! I am an activist, a TJ alumnus, and Asian as well. However, I truly want to see more diversity at TJ, in whatever form it takes. I recognize that this challenges the traditional Asian cultural emphasis on education above all else. Still, without the stability of family support and parental commitment, Asian students would be just like students from other ethnic backgrounds. Don’t you agree?

All for more diversity, but “whatever form it takes” is the very core problem. So now Asians’ “cultural emphasis on education” is a sin, and we should start a race to the bottom and drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator? Hats off to you for your activism, but let’s be clear: equal outcomes are not the solution to equal opportunities, in any society that wants to thrive and be competitive. Education IS about a nation's competitiveness. You start with a misguided premise.

Public education is meant to be the great equalizer. In this setting, why should a student with a parent who is an undocumented immigrant, a drug addict, or a single parent have fewer opportunities than a student with a dedicated Asian parent?

You “equalize” by providing a platform that no one can be excluded from the opportunity to compete, but not shoving them into where you think they should be, at the expense of others. So, no, students from your list should not have fewer opportunities. It can be harder for them and they need be given support, but not manufactured outcomes. What makes it right for public education to take my tax money and then punish me and strip away my hard-earned opportunities that should have been merit/rules based?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these phony doom and gloom posters need to keep their eye on the prize. The new admissions process made TJ much stronger despite their false claims to the contrary. I predict this will be vindicated by amazing college outcomes post 2025.

You know they repealed affirmative action, right?

Exactly, and now that TJ selection is based on actual merit instead of whether your parents could afford elite prep, things are better than ever.

They've reduced merit by eliminating the SHSAT.
Whether you think testing should play a large role, the notion that it should play no role can only be held by someone who doesn't actually care about academic merit or doesn't understand testing.

You mean they reduced reliance on the QuantQ because more affluent families were buying access to extensive question banks which unfairly skewed selection in the favor of a few wealthy schools.

What was wrong with the SHSAT?
Why did they switch to Quant Q?

They didn’t use the SHSAT.

Elite prep centers were debriefing students over the years to compile in-house question banks to give their customers an edge. This has been discussed here 123456 times.

Yes. And? Totally irrelevant to my comment.

TJ didn’t use the SHSAT. Even before Q-Quant.