TJ Admissions

[Anonymous]

Get yourself some experience factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no prep required for the admissions process which has a name sake problem essay and self portrait with room for sob stories. However, if a student is by chance granted admission, they will need to be prepped in middle school math, science, and English to survive at TJ and avoid being in the lower half of the class. RSM, Curie, AoPs, etc., are all prep companies that help in this middle school preparation to be successful at TJ, if and after student gets admitted.

The other way to prep is to be smart. If that doesn't work, maybe you don't want to kill yourself to keep your head above water at a school that is too hard for you and an annoying commute.

[Anonymous]

After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

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Anonymous wrote:Are prep courses still helpful? I know they used to be really popular, but the change in admissions process supposedly reduced their influence.

My 8th grader says he wants to apply. I'm seeing ads for test prep companies, and not sure if they'd actually be useful or not?

Well yes and no.

If your kid goes into the test cold, they will not have a good feel for the timing and pace. A LOT of kids do not finish the test in the allotted time. Finishing the test improves your chances vs having a great answer on the first essay and then rushing through everything else. So yes practicing probably helps but it's not like you should practice a bunch of math so you can do the better on the math sections, there is one math essay and it is very easy.

Some of the posters are still bitter since they can't buy access to the question banks the prep centers had compiled to give wealthy families an advantage and will just post half-truths. This is probably the best answer you're going to get.

Well, at least you are no longer lying about students buying the actual test answers.

Before Quant Q was implemented to "eliminate" test prep, anyone with $20 and an amazon account could get access to prior test questions of the SHSAT. Without an actual test, you basically get a modified cross section of the applicant pool.

S/o- I looked SHSAR up bc didn’t know what was and a rabbit hole later find one of the specialized NY schools can apply to if take that test is film and tv HS- too cool (at least on paper)!
https://myschools.nyc/en/schools/high-school/?dbn=30Q301

Frankly we could use a few more magnet schools here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are prep courses still helpful? I know they used to be really popular, but the change in admissions process supposedly reduced their influence.

My 8th grader says he wants to apply. I'm seeing ads for test prep companies, and not sure if they'd actually be useful or not?

Well yes and no.

If your kid goes into the test cold, they will not have a good feel for the timing and pace. A LOT of kids do not finish the test in the allotted time. Finishing the test improves your chances vs having a great answer on the first essay and then rushing through everything else. So yes practicing probably helps but it's not like you should practice a bunch of math so you can do the better on the math sections, there is one math essay and it is very easy.

Some of the posters are still bitter since they can't buy access to the question banks the prep centers had compiled to give wealthy families an advantage and will just post half-truths. This is probably the best answer you're going to get.

Well, at least you are no longer lying about students buying the actual test answers.

Before Quant Q was implemented to "eliminate" test prep, anyone with $20 and an amazon account could get access to prior test questions of the SHSAT. Without an actual test, you basically get a modified cross section of the applicant pool.

S/o- I looked SHSAR up bc didn’t know what was and a rabbit hole later find one of the specialized NY schools can apply to if take that test is film and tv HS- too cool (at least on paper)!
https://myschools.nyc/en/schools/high-school/?dbn=30Q301

Frankly we could use a few more magnet schools here

The high schools in FCPS, whatever your personal opinion, all offer a wide range of classes to serve a wide range of students. We don't need more magnets here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

This is true at many schools.
Now it is true at TJ too.

This is a democracy and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
Just like we tell other people to study harder, I would tell asians, get more political.
Once you are politically relevant, your children will be too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

This is true at many schools.
Now it is true at TJ too.

This is a democracy and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
Just like we tell other people to study harder, I would tell asians, get more political.
Once you are politically relevant, your children will be too.

Getting more political may or may not be a good idea - but better reading comprehension would definitely be!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

That's not what I've heard. Do you have a citation for this or are you just racist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

This is true at many schools.
Now it is true at TJ too.

This is a democracy and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
Just like we tell other people to study harder, I would tell asians, get more political.
Once you are politically relevant, your children will be too.

Getting more political may or may not be a good idea - but better reading comprehension would definitely be!

Asians are still the largest demographic and the majority of TJ students and the largest beneficiaries of the changes were low-income Asians. Nevertheless, admissions reflect applications and applications reflect interest. The various demographics groups were admitted within 1% or 2% point difference which indicates the race-blind process is indeed race blind. Bottom line is this program has greater appeal for Asians. Other groups don't appear to be as keen on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

This is true at many schools.
Now it is true at TJ too.

This is a democracy and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
Just like we tell other people to study harder, I would tell asians, get more political.
Once you are politically relevant, your children will be too.

Getting more political may or may not be a good idea - but better reading comprehension would definitely be!

Asians are still the largest demographic and the majority of TJ students and the largest beneficiaries of the changes were low-income Asians. Nevertheless, admissions reflect applications and applications reflect interest. The various demographics groups were admitted within 1% or 2% point difference which indicates the race-blind process is indeed race blind. Bottom line is this program has greater appeal for Asians. Other groups don't appear to be as keen on it.

Check your math.

Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

This is true at many schools.
Now it is true at TJ too.

This is a democracy and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
Just like we tell other people to study harder, I would tell asians, get more political.
Once you are politically relevant, your children will be too.

Getting more political may or may not be a good idea - but better reading comprehension would definitely be!

Asians are still the largest demographic and the majority of TJ students and the largest beneficiaries of the changes were low-income Asians. Nevertheless, admissions reflect applications and applications reflect interest. The various demographics groups were admitted within 1% or 2% point difference which indicates the race-blind process is indeed race blind. Bottom line is this program has greater appeal for Asians. Other groups don't appear to be as keen on it.

Check your math.

Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

The numbers that I saw and were posted here showed a range of 17%-21%. Your numbers appear to be different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After admissions change, apparently students are no longer tested in middle school math, science and English? I hear they are given just one problem to solve, and asked to write character essays. And that's it. How can they evaluate and differentiate applicant skills with just one problem? Even elementary school math tests have more than one problem on a quiz.

There is one moderately difficult math question. Last year it was one of those "if a train leaves chicago at 2 pm" type questions.
They end up with something approximating a cross section of the applicant pool.
A lot of students return to their base school.
If you look at the demographics of the graduating class, it is still more diverse than in previous COVID years but not nearly as diverse as the freshman classes.

before and even after admissions change, the top half with higher GPA and rigorous courses is still dominated by same ethnicity. Diversity is all in lower half. Why?

This is true at many schools.
Now it is true at TJ too.

This is a democracy and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
Just like we tell other people to study harder, I would tell asians, get more political.
Once you are politically relevant, your children will be too.

Getting more political may or may not be a good idea - but better reading comprehension would definitely be!

Asians are still the largest demographic and the majority of TJ students and the largest beneficiaries of the changes were low-income Asians. Nevertheless, admissions reflect applications and applications reflect interest. The various demographics groups were admitted within 1% or 2% point difference which indicates the race-blind process is indeed race blind. Bottom line is this program has greater appeal for Asians. Other groups don't appear to be as keen on it.

Check your math.

Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

The numbers that I saw and were posted here showed a range of 17%-21%. Your numbers appear to be different.

Do we have applicant demographics for any year after class of 2025?
https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

Hispanic 21.02%
Asian 19.47%
White 16.94%
Black 14.33%
Other* 13.11%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are prep courses still helpful? I know they used to be really popular, but the change in admissions process supposedly reduced their influence.

My 8th grader says he wants to apply. I'm seeing ads for test prep companies, and not sure if they'd actually be useful or not?

Well yes and no.

If your kid goes into the test cold, they will not have a good feel for the timing and pace. A LOT of kids do not finish the test in the allotted time. Finishing the test improves your chances vs having a great answer on the first essay and then rushing through everything else. So yes practicing probably helps but it's not like you should practice a bunch of math so you can do the better on the math sections, there is one math essay and it is very easy.

Some of the posters are still bitter since they can't buy access to the question banks the prep centers had compiled to give wealthy families an advantage and will just post half-truths. This is probably the best answer you're going to get.

Well, at least you are no longer lying about students buying the actual test answers.

Before Quant Q was implemented to "eliminate" test prep, anyone with $20 and an amazon account could get access to prior test questions of the SHSAT. Without an actual test, you basically get a modified cross section of the applicant pool.

S/o- I looked SHSAR up bc didn’t know what was and a rabbit hole later find one of the specialized NY schools can apply to if take that test is film and tv HS- too cool (at least on paper)!
https://myschools.nyc/en/schools/high-school/?dbn=30Q301

Frankly we could use a few more magnet schools here

The high schools in FCPS, whatever your personal opinion, all offer a wide range of classes to serve a wide range of students. We don't need more magnets here.

Which FCPS school is for performing arts?