TJ Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Are prep courses still helpful? I know they used to be really popular, but the change in admissions process supposedly reduced their influence.

My 8th grader says he wants to apply. I'm seeing ads for test prep companies, and not sure if they'd actually be useful or not?


Well yes and no.

If your kid goes into the test cold, they will not have a good feel for the timing and pace. A LOT of kids do not finish the test in the allotted time. Finishing the test improves your chances vs having a great answer on the first essay and then rushing through everything else. So yes practicing probably helps but it's not like you should practice a bunch of math so you can do the better on the math sections, there is one math essay and it is very easy.


Some of the posters are still bitter since they can't buy access to the question banks the prep centers had compiled to give wealthy families an advantage and will just post half-truths. This is probably the best answer you're going to get.


Well, at least you are no longer lying about students buying the actual test answers.

Before Quant Q was implemented to "eliminate" test prep, anyone with $20 and an amazon account could get access to prior test questions of the SHSAT. Without an actual test, you basically get a modified cross section of the applicant pool.


S/o- I looked SHSAR up bc didn’t know what was and a rabbit hole later find one of the specialized NY schools can apply to if take that test is film and tv HS- too cool (at least on paper)!
https://myschools.nyc/en/schools/high-school/?dbn=30Q301


Wait what? Kids did buy access to question banks that contained actual questions.


TJ did not use SHSAT.
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Anonymous wrote:From another thread, that has accurate data showing lowered math rigor with increased non-asian enrollment:


"TJHSST Class of 2025 admitted seven times as many students with minimal math level required to apply, and almost halved the proportion of students with the highest math level.

Compared to previous years, there is a huge leap in the number of students taking Algebra 1 rather than higher level math. There were 161 students admitted who only had taken Algebra 1. In previous years, that number has been about 20 students; 22 admitted students in Class of 2024 and 21 admitted students in Class of 2023 had only had Algebra 1. "
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf


The pandemic had a massive impact on all students not just the ones at TJ.

Pandemic didn’t affect the top half. Just the bottom half in lowest math algebra1?
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


Well, if you have any evidence of this, you should take it to court because that's highly illegal in this country and you'd win millions! Too bad conspiracy theories aren't evidence...


Why is it illegal? The Texas 10% plan still exists and the announced rationale for it was to achieve racial critical mass.

And how would i win millions? Did the plaintiffs in SFFA win milliopns?

It's not conspiracy theory. It's public record. The FCPS board was very open about their racial concerns when they created this system in the midst of the BLM protests.

Are you really this stupid or do you just think everyone else is?


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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.


You cannot be "made room", you have to earn it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.


You cannot be "made room", you have to earn it. So if there are "too many" people of a certain race, it is reasonably justified to start killing them? And not killing them would be racism against you?
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.


You cannot be "made room", you have to earn it. So if there are "too many" people of a certain race, it is reasonably justified to start killing them? And not killing them would be racism against you?


That's a little extreme. My kid doesn't need to go to TJ that bad. Please don't kill him.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? What you're claiming is highly illegal, and if it were remotely true, the courts would stop it! I have to assume this is just another conspiracy theory with no factual basis.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? What you're claiming is highly illegal, and if it were remotely true, the courts would stop it! I have to assume this is just another conspiracy theory with no factual basis.

Look at your own chart that has all the data showing how every race count went up except one that was excluded from expanded quota, after admission change. Courts will stop it when the majority of the judiciary are not biased, as was seen in every systemic racism case in US history. It took years to overturn them.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? What you're claiming is highly illegal, and if it were remotely true, the courts would stop it! I have to assume this is just another conspiracy theory with no factual basis.


Anything other than accepting your entitlement is illegal, is racist, is bigoted. If you want to live in the pits, it's your choice. We're not going into the pits with you.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? What you're claiming is highly illegal, and if it were remotely true, the courts would stop it! I have to assume this is just another conspiracy theory with no factual basis.


Anything other than accepting your entitlement is illegal, is racist, is bigoted. If you want to live in the pits, it's your choice. We're not going into the pits with you.


I agree it seems crazy that anyone would make these baseless claims of anti-Asian bias when
1) It's been repeatedly shown that Asian enrollment at TJ is at an all-time high
2) low-income Asians were the largest beneficiary of the admission changes
3) admission is race-blind for decades
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? What you're claiming is highly illegal, and if it were remotely true, the courts would stop it! I have to assume this is just another conspiracy theory with no factual basis.


Anything other than accepting your entitlement is illegal, is racist, is bigoted. If you want to live in the pits, it's your choice. We're not going into the pits with you.


I agree it seems crazy that anyone would make these baseless claims of anti-Asian bias when
1) It's been repeatedly shown that Asian enrollment at TJ is at an all-time high
2) low-income Asians were the largest beneficiary of the admission changes
3) admission is race-blind for decades


Stay in the pits. Peace.
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Anonymous wrote:Many people may find it difficult to accept what FCPS is clearly communicating through both their actions and published data about Asian American students.

FCPS proudly issues a TJ admissions news release each year that highlights the overwhelming talent of Asian students who qualify for the rigor of TJ. According to FCPS school profiles, Asian students are among the hardest working, and schools with a high percentage of Asian students tend to rank higher.

Even with the current racially influenced admissions process, FCPS demonstrates that to form a TJ class capable of meeting the required rigor, a minimum of 300+ Asian students is essential, as that’s where the advanced STEM talent lies. As FCPS excluded Asian applicants from the 100 seat expansion quota, the representation of non-Asian groups increased, along with a significant rise in the lowest level Math 1 enrollment, from 17 the previous year to over 120+ immediately after admission change.

You can whine all you want falsely labeling Asian students as prepping, test buying, wealthy feeders, tiger parenting, etc... but that is not how FCPS views their advanced stem talent.


It's a race blind process.

Stop lying.

No one except you is lying. Your own data chart shows the Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expansion quota, which makes it a race aware process.


No kids weren't "excluded".

There is no mechanism for excluding kids by race.


This is what systemic racism looks like.

They engineer rules to create specific racial results and try to tell everyone that it's not racist.


There are no mechanisms for racial discrimination.

Asian students weren’t negatively impacted. There are still just as many Asian students at TJ today.

That's the problem, should have gone up proportionally with seat expansion. Asians were excluded from expanded 100 seat quota. Race based exclusion occurred.



The entire reason for the seat expansion was to try to make room for more kids that didn’t traditionally go there as much while mitigating impact on existing over represented groups. When you start out at 70% of the student body it’s not reasonable to expect to keep climbing that figure.

You may find it hard to understand but in this country this 'make room' for other races by excluding students of one particular race is called racial manipulation. It takes multiple attempts to prove such visible systematic racism in courts.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? What you're claiming is highly illegal, and if it were remotely true, the courts would stop it! I have to assume this is just another conspiracy theory with no factual basis.


Anything other than accepting your entitlement is illegal, is racist, is bigoted. If you want to live in the pits, it's your choice. We're not going into the pits with you.


I agree it seems crazy that anyone would make these baseless claims of anti-Asian bias when
1) It's been repeatedly shown that Asian enrollment at TJ is at an all-time high
2) low-income Asians were the largest beneficiary of the admission changes
3) admission is race-blind for decades

FCPS says Asian American students qualify for TJ in overwhelming numbers. Why?
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