New VA trans policies for schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens. Back when Northan's VDOE passed their transgender guidelines, the LCPS school board members claimed that they were "required" to update their policies in accoardance with the guidelines. So given the new policies, will they similarly state they are "required" to update their policies?

Either they are required to follow them or they aren't - and if they aren't required now, then they weren't required then and they lied.

Depends which requirement you choose to follow. If school divisions pick federal law, they won't change their policies. If they pick state law/VDOE guidance, they will. The correct answer is to go with federal law as it trumps state. So there may be a legal challenge.

Clearly you are not a lawyer. Federal law doesn’t Trump state law when it comes to education, police etc. These are services that are traditionally under the purview of the state. The way the federal government usually gets around it is through the Commerce Clause or by attaching compliance to some grant money or something like that. But no, federal law doesn’t trump state law. It depends on what the law is and how it is drafted.

Actually I am a lawyer and a good one at that. So your response is hilarious. But I’m not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain this all to you.

Oh please do waste your time. Please explain to us exactly how federal law trumps state law here.

Is that a serious question?

Are you new to the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

Apparently that’s all you want to do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

Doesn’t matter. The point is, the parents should know. If schools fear abuse then they are mandated reporters. No need to personalize this. If it’s something significant, and affects the well being of the child, the parents should know. Simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

Doesn’t matter. The point is, the parents should know. If schools fear abuse then they are mandated reporters. No need to personalize this. If it’s something significant, and affects the well being of the child, the parents should know. Simple as that.

And when the family has been reported and nothing is done and the kid is still afraid to tell the parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

Doesn’t matter. The point is, the parents should know. If schools fear abuse then they are mandated reporters. No need to personalize this. If it’s something significant, and affects the well being of the child, the parents should know. Simple as that.

And when the family has been reported and nothing is done and the kid is still afraid to tell the parents?

Then kidnap the endangered child and flee to Canada!

/s

Then nothing. Let CPS and the parents take care of the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Nobody at school is going to give your kid (if you even have any) hormones. So chill TF out and leave LGTBQ+ kids alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens. Back when Northan's VDOE passed their transgender guidelines, the LCPS school board members claimed that they were "required" to update their policies in accoardance with the guidelines. So given the new policies, will they similarly state they are "required" to update their policies?

Either they are required to follow them or they aren't - and if they aren't required now, then they weren't required then and they lied.

Depends which requirement you choose to follow. If school divisions pick federal law, they won't change their policies. If they pick state law/VDOE guidance, they will. The correct answer is to go with federal law as it trumps state. So there may be a legal challenge.

Clearly you are not a lawyer. Federal law doesn’t Trump state law when it comes to education, police etc. These are services that are traditionally under the purview of the state. The way the federal government usually gets around it is through the Commerce Clause or by attaching compliance to some grant money or something like that. But no, federal law doesn’t trump state law. It depends on what the law is and how it is drafted.

Actually I am a lawyer and a good one at that. So your response is hilarious. But I’m not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain this all to you.

Oh please do waste your time. Please explain to us exactly how federal law trumps state law here.

Is that a serious question?

Are you new to the US?

Yes of course it is a serious question. I would like to know why you believe Youngkin’s policy violates federal law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Nobody at school is going to give your kid (if you even have any) hormones. So chill TF out and leave LGTBQ+ kids alone.

Socially transitioning is a big deal. That’s why people like you claim that if schools don’t affirm a child’s gender identity, there is a chance of suicide. Since it’s a big deal, their parents should know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

Doesn’t matter. The point is, the parents should know. If schools fear abuse then they are mandated reporters. No need to personalize this. If it’s something significant, and affects the well being of the child, the parents should know. Simple as that.

And when the family has been reported and nothing is done and the kid is still afraid to tell the parents?

It’s not your concern. CPS makes the decision here, not you, and not the school. That’s why CPS exists as a body separate from schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Nobody at school is going to give your kid (if you even have any) hormones. So chill TF out and leave LGTBQ+ kids alone.

I am responding to the previous poster who also said to leave other people’s kids alone. Why don’t you tell her to chill out too? And why don’t you tell her that no one is forcing her kids to be called by a gender they don’t identify with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This issue isn’t as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. My daughter never showed any signs of not fully embracing being a girl. She was violently assaulted and is now suffering from severe PTSD. Over a matter of weeks, my child went from asking me to order her cute dresses from Japan to suddenly deciding she was a boy. The school totally complied without our knowledge. We discovered this when we found a school worksheet she signed with another name. My child has been in extensive therapy and, while doing better as far as the PTSD, is still very uncomfortable with her body. To all the teachers and others on this thread: do you really think you know my child better than I do? Better than the army of therapists and doctors who see her regularly? Am I a transphobic bigot because I see the connection between the assault and her suddenly wanting to be a boy? And, wanting to back off and wait as opposed to diving in to transitioning? What others do with their children is none of my business - I don’t know their situation and I’m sure they are doing what they feel is best for their child. I wish others would acknowledge that the experience of others may be different.
Sorry, I just found many of these comments really upsetting…

I’m so sorry.

I was sexually assaulted when I was 13. I am fairly certain that as a neuro-atypical girl who was severely disassociating from my body as a result of the attack, a trans identity would have been extremely appealing at the time. I wish you and your child the best of luck.

Unfortunately trans activists like the ones posting believe they know what’s better for your child. They believe they know your child more than you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Nobody at school is going to give your kid (if you even have any) hormones. So chill TF out and leave LGTBQ+ kids alone.

Socially transitioning is a big deal. That’s why people like you claim that if schools don’t affirm a child’s gender identity, there is a chance of suicide. Since it’s a big deal, their parents should know.

Their parents already should know. If they don't, there is a good reason.