New VA trans policies for schools

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens. Back when Northan's VDOE passed their transgender guidelines, the LCPS school board members claimed that they were "required" to update their policies in accoardance with the guidelines. So given the new policies, will they similarly state they are "required" to update their policies?

Either they are required to follow them or they aren't - and if they aren't required now, then they weren't required then and they lied.

Depends which requirement you choose to follow. If school divisions pick federal law, they won't change their policies. If they pick state law/VDOE guidance, they will. The correct answer is to go with federal law as it trumps state. So there may be a legal challenge.

Clearly you are not a lawyer. Federal law doesn’t Trump state law when it comes to education, police etc. These are services that are traditionally under the purview of the state. The way the federal government usually gets around it is through the Commerce Clause or by attaching compliance to some grant money or something like that. But no, federal law doesn’t trump state law. It depends on what the law is and how it is drafted.

Actually I am a lawyer and a good one at that. So your response is hilarious. But I’m not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain this all to you.

Oh please do waste your time. Please explain to us exactly how federal law trumps state law here.

Is that a serious question?

Are you new to the US?

Yes of course it is a serious question. I would like to know why you believe Youngkin’s policy violates federal law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/supremacy_clause

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Nobody at school is going to give your kid (if you even have any) hormones. So chill TF out and leave LGTBQ+ kids alone.

Socially transitioning is a big deal. That’s why people like you claim that if schools don’t affirm a child’s gender identity, there is a chance of suicide. Since it’s a big deal, their parents should know.

Their parents already should know. If they don't, there is a good reason.

Not for you to make that assumption. If something significant is happening to a child, or the child is making a decision that has a profound effect on several things, then the parents should know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens. Back when Northan's VDOE passed their transgender guidelines, the LCPS school board members claimed that they were "required" to update their policies in accoardance with the guidelines. So given the new policies, will they similarly state they are "required" to update their policies?

Either they are required to follow them or they aren't - and if they aren't required now, then they weren't required then and they lied.

Depends which requirement you choose to follow. If school divisions pick federal law, they won't change their policies. If they pick state law/VDOE guidance, they will. The correct answer is to go with federal law as it trumps state. So there may be a legal challenge.

Clearly you are not a lawyer. Federal law doesn’t Trump state law when it comes to education, police etc. These are services that are traditionally under the purview of the state. The way the federal government usually gets around it is through the Commerce Clause or by attaching compliance to some grant money or something like that. But no, federal law doesn’t trump state law. It depends on what the law is and how it is drafted.

Actually I am a lawyer and a good one at that. So your response is hilarious. But I’m not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain this all to you.

Oh please do waste your time. Please explain to us exactly how federal law trumps state law here.

Is that a serious question?

Are you new to the US?

Yes of course it is a serious question. I would like to know why you believe Youngkin’s policy violates federal law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/supremacy_clause

Read carefully. There is an entire discipline of law devoted to what falls under the purview of the states and what falls under the purview of the federal government. “It prohibits states from interfering with the federal government's exercise of its constitutional powers, and from assuming any functions that are exclusively entrusted to the federal government.”

Again, you didn’t answer my question. What federal law does Youngkin’s policy violate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This issue isn’t as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. My daughter never showed any signs of not fully embracing being a girl. She was violently assaulted and is now suffering from severe PTSD. Over a matter of weeks, my child went from asking me to order her cute dresses from Japan to suddenly deciding she was a boy. The school totally complied without our knowledge. We discovered this when we found a school worksheet she signed with another name. My child has been in extensive therapy and, while doing better as far as the PTSD, is still very uncomfortable with her body. To all the teachers and others on this thread: do you really think you know my child better than I do? Better than the army of therapists and doctors who see her regularly? Am I a transphobic bigot because I see the connection between the assault and her suddenly wanting to be a boy? And, wanting to back off and wait as opposed to diving in to transitioning? What others do with their children is none of my business - I don’t know their situation and I’m sure they are doing what they feel is best for their child. I wish others would acknowledge that the experience of others may be different.
Sorry, I just found many of these comments really upsetting…

I’m so sorry.

I was sexually assaulted when I was 13. I am fairly certain that as a neuro-atypical girl who was severely disassociating from my body as a result of the attack, a trans identity would have been extremely appealing at the time. I wish you and your child the best of luck.

Unfortunately trans activists like the ones posting believe they know what’s better for your child. They believe they know your child more than you.

That is the impression I am getting - that and it is somehow my fault. Oh, and previous poster: thank you so much for the kind words.

[Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/MegynKellyShow/status/1681759619671007235

Interesting interview on this topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/MegynKellyShow/status/1681759619671007235

Interesting interview on this topic.

Megyn Kelly? We don't want to see your trash links.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This issue isn’t as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. My daughter never showed any signs of not fully embracing being a girl. She was violently assaulted and is now suffering from severe PTSD. Over a matter of weeks, my child went from asking me to order her cute dresses from Japan to suddenly deciding she was a boy. The school totally complied without our knowledge. We discovered this when we found a school worksheet she signed with another name. My child has been in extensive therapy and, while doing better as far as the PTSD, is still very uncomfortable with her body. To all the teachers and others on this thread: do you really think you know my child better than I do? Better than the army of therapists and doctors who see her regularly? Am I a transphobic bigot because I see the connection between the assault and her suddenly wanting to be a boy? And, wanting to back off and wait as opposed to diving in to transitioning? What others do with their children is none of my business - I don’t know their situation and I’m sure they are doing what they feel is best for their child. I wish others would acknowledge that the experience of others may be different.
Sorry, I just found many of these comments really upsetting…

I’m so sorry.

I was sexually assaulted when I was 13. I am fairly certain that as a neuro-atypical girl who was severely disassociating from my body as a result of the attack, a trans identity would have been extremely appealing at the time. I wish you and your child the best of luck.

Unfortunately trans activists like the ones posting believe they know what’s better for your child. They believe they know your child more than you.

That is the impression I am getting - that and it is somehow my fault. Oh, and previous poster: thank you so much for the kind words.

At this point, based on their own words, I think most trans activists believe that women and girls who are sexually assaulted deserved what happened to them, and that it’s their own fault and by extension yours as a parent. That’s probably what they think about your daughter and you, to be honest.

I’m sorry this happened to your daughter. Keep fighting for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Even if that is beating them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This issue isn’t as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. My daughter never showed any signs of not fully embracing being a girl. She was violently assaulted and is now suffering from severe PTSD. Over a matter of weeks, my child went from asking me to order her cute dresses from Japan to suddenly deciding she was a boy. The school totally complied without our knowledge. We discovered this when we found a school worksheet she signed with another name. My child has been in extensive therapy and, while doing better as far as the PTSD, is still very uncomfortable with her body. To all the teachers and others on this thread: do you really think you know my child better than I do? Better than the army of therapists and doctors who see her regularly? Am I a transphobic bigot because I see the connection between the assault and her suddenly wanting to be a boy? And, wanting to back off and wait as opposed to diving in to transitioning? What others do with their children is none of my business - I don’t know their situation and I’m sure they are doing what they feel is best for their child. I wish others would acknowledge that the experience of others may be different.
Sorry, I just found many of these comments really upsetting…

I’m so sorry.

I was sexually assaulted when I was 13. I am fairly certain that as a neuro-atypical girl who was severely disassociating from my body as a result of the attack, a trans identity would have been extremely appealing at the time. I wish you and your child the best of luck.

Unfortunately trans activists like the ones posting believe they know what’s better for your child. They believe they know your child more than you.

That is the impression I am getting - that and it is somehow my fault. Oh, and previous poster: thank you so much for the kind words.

It's not clear what your issue is with the teachers. You think the teachers are helping your kid to get medication? Or...you're mad that the teachers are using a preferred name?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/MegynKellyShow/status/1681759619671007235

Interesting interview on this topic.

Megyn Kelly? We don't want to see your trash links.

yes, I understand that you don't want to see the common sense shown by the woman she interviewed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're so worried about a teacher keeping this information from you, make sure you're creating a home environment where your child knows they can come out to YOU safely, and this won't be a problem.

The kids who have come out to me and asked me to keep it quiet are terrified of their parents finding out. They're terrified of being beaten or kicked out.

This is both fear-mongering and overly simplistic.

LOL. Quite the gaslighting there.

Leave LGBTQ+ kids alone. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids.

That’s the point. You don’t get to decide what happens for other people’s kids. Their parents do.

Even if that is beating them?

If a parent is beating or threatening to beat a child then CPS gets involved. Teachers are mandated reporters. They would report the parents. We already have laws for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This issue isn’t as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. My daughter never showed any signs of not fully embracing being a girl. She was violently assaulted and is now suffering from severe PTSD. Over a matter of weeks, my child went from asking me to order her cute dresses from Japan to suddenly deciding she was a boy. The school totally complied without our knowledge. We discovered this when we found a school worksheet she signed with another name. My child has been in extensive therapy and, while doing better as far as the PTSD, is still very uncomfortable with her body. To all the teachers and others on this thread: do you really think you know my child better than I do? Better than the army of therapists and doctors who see her regularly? Am I a transphobic bigot because I see the connection between the assault and her suddenly wanting to be a boy? And, wanting to back off and wait as opposed to diving in to transitioning? What others do with their children is none of my business - I don’t know their situation and I’m sure they are doing what they feel is best for their child. I wish others would acknowledge that the experience of others may be different.
Sorry, I just found many of these comments really upsetting…

I’m so sorry.

I was sexually assaulted when I was 13. I am fairly certain that as a neuro-atypical girl who was severely disassociating from my body as a result of the attack, a trans identity would have been extremely appealing at the time. I wish you and your child the best of luck.

Unfortunately trans activists like the ones posting believe they know what’s better for your child. They believe they know your child more than you.

That is the impression I am getting - that and it is somehow my fault. Oh, and previous poster: thank you so much for the kind words.

It's not clear what your issue is with the teachers. You think the teachers are helping your kid to get medication? Or...you're mad that the teachers are using a preferred name?

Read her post. Then you will understand her issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/MegynKellyShow/status/1681759619671007235

Interesting interview on this topic.

What happened to megyn’s face?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

Agree. These rules seem fine. Parents parent their children, not schools. Schools only have children for part of the day while parents have their children 100%.

And here comes the parents rights contingent. We see you.

Schools should not be able to override parents, unless abuse is involved. In that case, contact Child Protective Services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This issue isn’t as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. My daughter never showed any signs of not fully embracing being a girl. She was violently assaulted and is now suffering from severe PTSD. Over a matter of weeks, my child went from asking me to order her cute dresses from Japan to suddenly deciding she was a boy. The school totally complied without our knowledge. We discovered this when we found a school worksheet she signed with another name. My child has been in extensive therapy and, while doing better as far as the PTSD, is still very uncomfortable with her body. To all the teachers and others on this thread: do you really think you know my child better than I do? Better than the army of therapists and doctors who see her regularly? Am I a transphobic bigot because I see the connection between the assault and her suddenly wanting to be a boy? And, wanting to back off and wait as opposed to diving in to transitioning? What others do with their children is none of my business - I don’t know their situation and I’m sure they are doing what they feel is best for their child. I wish others would acknowledge that the experience of others may be different.
Sorry, I just found many of these comments really upsetting…

I’m so sorry.

I was sexually assaulted when I was 13. I am fairly certain that as a neuro-atypical girl who was severely disassociating from my body as a result of the attack, a trans identity would have been extremely appealing at the time. I wish you and your child the best of luck.

Unfortunately trans activists like the ones posting believe they know what’s better for your child. They believe they know your child more than you.

That is the impression I am getting - that and it is somehow my fault. Oh, and previous poster: thank you so much for the kind words.

It's not clear what your issue is with the teachers. You think the teachers are helping your kid to get medication? Or...you're mad that the teachers are using a preferred name?

Good lord… I’m not an idiot and I don’t think the school is trying to give my kid freaking hormones. In my situation, a heads-up that my kid was requesting to be called by a male name that is completely unlike her own would have been nice. My child’s doctors could have been made aware sooner.