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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention the potential medical intervention that may come with gender exploration. Different than being gay and you should not confuse the two.
We are discussing schools. Not medical interventions.
“Outing” kids against their will would be traumatizing for both transgender and for gay kids.
This is not a student going privately to a teacher or counselor and telling that teacher that they don’t feel like the sex that they are biologically or assigned at birth or whatever you want to call it. Now if the teacher or counselor emails the parents telling them that, then sure that would be “outing.” This is a student who is asking the entire school, from teachers to fellow classmates to treat him or her as a gender different than one that corresponds to the student’s biological sex. The entire school is actively participating by using that student’s pronouns. The school is allowing that student to use a bathroom that isn’t designated for members of that student’s biological sex. The school is actively socially transitioning the student and requiring that student’s classmates to participate in that process by requiring all that student’s classmates to use that student’s preferred pronouns whatever that is. So yes, the parents should know.
If the kid has reasons for not telling the parents then the school should respect that.
If the kid wants to report abuse or neglect then the school’s mandatory reporter obligations kick in and they are welcome to call CPS. But until then the parents are the parents and they ought to be informed. There is no middle ground. Unless we’re talking about things a kid says to a counselor, where there’s a legally established confidential relationship.
No. Teachers are not there to fix your family’s issues. And they shouldn’t “out” a kid without their permission. Gay or transgender.
Most PPs here are not saying teachers should put gay students - specially because this is not likely to come up in the normal course of interacting with parents (unlike using a name or pronouns would) and because it does not really have an impact on how the school treats that kid. Who they are attracted to does not change how teachers and peers interact with them, which bathroom they use, which locker room they use, which room to sleep in on overnight trips, etc.
The main reason boys and girls have always been separated for locker rooms, overnight accommodations, etc. is to eliminate sexual behaviors. And that has dictated others' interactions by way of chaperones, managing seating on buses, segregated bathrooms, segregated locker rooms. But all you people saying this is only about gender identification, I guess you don't care about that because you're fine with homosexual teens sleeping with same-sex peers on field trips and showering and changing clothes in front of same-sex peers?