New VA trans policies for schools

[Anonymous]

Wow. I went to school with so many LGBT kids (1980s in the South) who got some comfort from being slightly out at school and to beloved teachers even before they could tell their parents. It would have been so awful if a kid knew that the school or teacher would out them to their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I went to school with so many LGBT kids (1980s in the South) who got some comfort from being slightly out at school and to beloved teachers even before they could tell their parents. It would have been so awful if a kid knew that the school or teacher would out them to their parents.

It ain't the 1980s in the South anymore. Even in the South, it isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope beyond hope that if my kid ever has an issue that they feel they can't come to me with that they have a teacher (or other trusted adult) who cares enough about them to listen and support them.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope beyond hope that if my kid ever has an issue that they feel they can't come to me with that they have a teacher (or other trusted adult) who cares enough about them to listen and support them.

They've got online friends. Plenty of trusted people to confide in online.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope beyond hope that if my kid ever has an issue that they feel they can't come to me with that they have a teacher (or other trusted adult) who cares enough about them to listen and support them.

They've got online friends. Plenty of trusted people to confide in online.

It probably isn't the best advice to tell your kid to trust the weirdo they met online instead of an adult they know in real life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

Mom of a straight cis girl here. I don't think she wants to share the girls bathroom with trans boys who everyone considers to be boys. What about her rights?

Does your straight cis girl change clothes in the locker room? Does she shower? Or does she change and shower in a stall and never sees any other girls in any state of dress or undress?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I went to school with so many LGBT kids (1980s in the South) who got some comfort from being slightly out at school and to beloved teachers even before they could tell their parents. It would have been so awful if a kid knew that the school or teacher would out them to their parents.

It ain't the 1980s in the South anymore. Even in the South, it isn't.

In 2018 I taught a kid who used he pronouns and a masculine nickname of their feminine real name at school but asked I didn’t do that when I spoke with their parents because their parents hadn’t fully accepted it yet. Easy enough and great for the kid to feel accepted at school even if parents were struggling. Now I would have to tell the kid no your mom who doesn’t agree has to tell the office I can use “he” in my classroom to refer to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

Agree. These rules seem fine. Parents parent their children, not schools. Schools only have children for part of the day while parents have their children 100%.

Right… just an hour or two at school, right??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

Mom of a straight cis girl here. I don't think she wants to share the girls bathroom with trans boys who everyone considers to be boys. What about her rights?

If she’s in high school, she already does. The bathroom policy has allowed this. Unless she’s specifically mentioned an incident or being uncomfortable to you, which it’s clear she hasn’t, it’s been a non issue.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

Fellow teacher. Same here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

Mom of a straight cis girl here. I don't think she wants to share the girls bathroom with trans boys who everyone considers to be boys. What about her rights?

If she’s in high school, she already does. The bathroom policy has allowed this. Unless she’s specifically mentioned an incident or being uncomfortable to you, which it’s clear she hasn’t, it’s been a non issue.

Definitely not a non-issue, kids are in fear of being "cancelled", labeled as racist or anti-trans, punished by the admin for speaking out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

Mom of a straight cis girl here. I don't think she wants to share the girls bathroom with trans boys who everyone considers to be boys. What about her rights?

Does your straight cis girl change clothes in the locker room? Does she shower? Or does she change and shower in a stall and never sees any other girls in any state of dress or undress?

She has never mentioned any concern with sharing any facilities with trans girls, literally ever. She has said how weird it would be to share facilities with trans boys (ie biological girls who look, present, act like boys) because she fully considers them to be boys.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

Mom of a straight cis girl here. I don't think she wants to share the girls bathroom with trans boys who everyone considers to be boys. What about her rights?

If she’s in high school, she already does. The bathroom policy has allowed this. Unless she’s specifically mentioned an incident or being uncomfortable to you, which it’s clear she hasn’t, it’s been a non issue.

I don't think you understood my point. Reread my post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

Mom of a straight cis girl here. I don't think she wants to share the girls bathroom with trans boys who everyone considers to be boys. What about her rights?

Does your straight cis girl change clothes in the locker room? Does she shower? Or does she change and shower in a stall and never sees any other girls in any state of dress or undress?

She has never mentioned any concern with sharing any facilities with trans girls, literally ever. She has said how weird it would be to share facilities with trans boys (ie biological girls who look, present, act like boys) because she fully considers them to be boys.

Hmm. Read your post a few times and think about what you're saying. You are trying to say that your DD would be fine with trans girls in the locker room - but from the rest of your post, she wouldn't be.