Son and DIL insulting vacation we paid for

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Anonymous wrote:My In-laws paid for us all to go to Disney. It was luxury accommodations, upgrades etc, cost a fortune. But for me it was miserable. I dont like crowds, heat and we had a 3yo who they took on a few rides but it was still parenting 24/7. They wanted us to be grateful and appreciative the whole time and I tried, but it was rough. I wouldn’t go on vacation with them again.

Disney with a 3 year old is no fun. Too young for many rides and still so little as to need constant babying. Much better to wait until 7+ years.

I had the time of my life taking my daughter to Disney when she was 3.

Me too. We took our kid a few times under age 10 - it was an easy trip and a blast.

Some people are Disney people, some people are not. Neither side is right.

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Anonymous wrote:MIL/OP - it sounds like you came to this board to rally hate against "terrible" DILs, only to have it blow up in your face.

Let it be a lesson to you.

You are never (ever) too old to learn!

Unhinged.

You are correct. MIL seems unhinged.

It’s scary you have kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I would just be upfront and say it's really bumming you out that they are complaining so much about the house.

It might just be their personalities, though - we were just out on vacation for a week with my in laws, staying in two truly spectacular places, that they were paying for!, and they complained about the places the whole time, too. It really bummed me out - I might suffer from a little toxic positivity - but it's just how they talk. My spouse assures me that they still really enjoyed the trip.

Maybe if you do this again you can just build in a little understanding that they are going to do some grumbling. But also I do sort of agree that if you can't sleep because the sun comes in too bright first thing, that's annoying. I also dislike having to make a bed on vacation or bring my own TP. Perhaps if you do this again just be sure you've read the reviews and can be assured that there's going to be enough supplies provided, and that even the non-master bedrooms are comfortable.

Also families are tricky! I hope you're still all enjoying the trip. Things don't have to be heaven or hell - they can just be a little bit of normal life - you like some of it, don't like some. I feel like that's part of being comfortable with people - that you can acknowledge the parts of something that aren't great, without putting your whole relationship at risk.

This. My ILs will very generously pay for trip accommodations, generally much nicer than we would have gotten on our own, and then without fail MIL complains about the rental's shortcomings the entire time!! Some people are just born complainers.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you guilt and pressure them about coming on your beach vacation and then expect them to be grateful for it?
When I'm on PTO I'd like to have it be my choice or have some perks that makes it worth my while.
If your son doesn't want to visit you of his own volition, there's not much you can do about it. He's a jerk, but then, maybe so are you.

OP here. We invited them every year. We understood the first year of COVID when vaccines weren’t out yet. But after vaccines everyone else came and we invited, not pressured just invited and made it clear we were all vaccinated. I want them to feel included but if they don’t like being here I wouldn’t say anything if they just declined.

Well this is a different issue- you do sound rather slighted that they didn't come last year. How old are their kids? Even when everyone is vaccinated Covid can still spread (I just got it on a beach vacation with my family!). Which was not a big deal THIS year because my kids were now vaccinated. But the quarantine rules they were subjected to last summer were still pretty crazy. Everything had to be analyzed through the lens of a potential 14 day quarantine or isolation.

I also have other friends in this area who were pretty cautious and would not see friends or family that they didn't think were being careful enough, especially last year before the younger kids were eligible for vaccination.

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Anonymous[b wrote:]It’s honestly sad when you realize that you won’t have another relaxing, fun vacation until your kids are older. Traveling with little kids is so exhausting. Your DIL probably doesn’t realize how much she’s complaining, but you should try not to take it personally and give them a lot of slack.[/b] And if it’s too stressful or unfun for YOU to have them as guests when they’re stressed by their little kids, just don’t invite them for a few years.

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I'm surprised that parents thought children wouldn't change their lives, including their vacations a bit. Our vacations with our (now grown) kids were so much fun, a little different than pre-kids, but I wouldn't have missed those for the world. Especially as we were both working demanding jobs, those vacations were precious bonding time.

We did have limited vacation time, so I understand that not all adult kids want to spend it with the grandparents. We never got to do that as young parents, so I'm a little envious. It does seem that the trips with extended family give the parents some extra hands when it comes to entertaining the little ones. I guess that's a trade-off, even if the accommodations are not luxurious.

I would guess that some of the grown children invited to these weeks do not have parents/grandparents who are involved and engaged - but rather, some just like bragging rights of "I took them to the beach". They leave out that there wasn't enough room for everyone, and the son and DIL got a room where they could not sleep.

If it really isn't a big deal, as so many MIL posters seem to think, why don't they switch rooms with the DIL and son?

This question has been asked multiple times on this thread and the response is...crickets. Very telling.

+1

MIL would never even have considered being a good hostess and switching rooms, and we all know that.

MIL, don't be so gross - act like you have parents, yourself.

Who are you talking to? OP hasn't visited this thread in days. Let it die already. Or seek help for your barely contained rage against MILs.

Whoa - talk about rage - maybe stop projecting.

It sounds like OP does not want her DIL there on vacation with her.

Much like you.

dp It's funny but the op never singled out her DIL. If you read the original post she mentions her SON/dil are complaining. Honestly, if I was op I wouldn't want a constant complainer on my vacation either. Would you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you guilt and pressure them about coming on your beach vacation and then expect them to be grateful for it?
When I'm on PTO I'd like to have it be my choice or have some perks that makes it worth my while.
If your son doesn't want to visit you of his own volition, there's not much you can do about it. He's a jerk, but then, maybe so are you.

OP here. We invited them every year. We understood the first year of COVID when vaccines weren’t out yet. But after vaccines everyone else came and we invited, not pressured just invited and made it clear we were all vaccinated. I want them to feel included but if they don’t like being here I wouldn’t say anything if they just declined.

Well this is a different issue- you do sound rather slighted that they didn't come last year. How old are their kids? Even when everyone is vaccinated Covid can still spread (I just got it on a beach vacation with my family!). Which was not a big deal THIS year because my kids were now vaccinated. But the quarantine rules they were subjected to last summer were still pretty crazy. Everything had to be analyzed through the lens of a potential 14 day quarantine or isolation.

I also have other friends in this area who were pretty cautious and would not see friends or family that they didn't think were being careful enough, especially last year before the younger kids were eligible for vaccination.

np I didn't think op sounded slighted at all. I think pp you are projecting.

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Anonymous wrote:I would just be upfront and say it's really bumming you out that they are complaining so much about the house.

It might just be their personalities, though - we were just out on vacation for a week with my in laws, staying in two truly spectacular places, that they were paying for!, and they complained about the places the whole time, too. It really bummed me out - I might suffer from a little toxic positivity - but it's just how they talk. My spouse assures me that they still really enjoyed the trip.

Maybe if you do this again you can just build in a little understanding that they are going to do some grumbling. But also I do sort of agree that if you can't sleep because the sun comes in too bright first thing, that's annoying. I also dislike having to make a bed on vacation or bring my own TP. Perhaps if you do this again just be sure you've read the reviews and can be assured that there's going to be enough supplies provided, and that even the non-master bedrooms are comfortable.

Also families are tricky! I hope you're still all enjoying the trip. Things don't have to be heaven or hell - they can just be a little bit of normal life - you like some of it, don't like some. I feel like that's part of being comfortable with people - that you can acknowledge the parts of something that aren't great, without putting your whole relationship at risk.

This. My ILs will very generously pay for trip accommodations, generally much nicer than we would have gotten on our own, and then without fail MIL complains about the rental's shortcomings the entire time!! Some people are just born complainers.

The ILs paid, so they have more "standing" to complain about shortcomings of the rental, but not to the extent of it spoiling anyone's vacation. I always do an honest assessment after the fact when I've paid for a rental, taking into account the rental fees. When we're paying $15,000/week for a 4 bedroom/4 bath rental, you can bet we expect more than when it's $5000.

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Anonymous wrote:I would just be upfront and say it's really bumming you out that they are complaining so much about the house.

It might just be their personalities, though - we were just out on vacation for a week with my in laws, staying in two truly spectacular places, that they were paying for!, and they complained about the places the whole time, too. It really bummed me out - I might suffer from a little toxic positivity - but it's just how they talk. My spouse assures me that they still really enjoyed the trip.

Maybe if you do this again you can just build in a little understanding that they are going to do some grumbling. But also I do sort of agree that if you can't sleep because the sun comes in too bright first thing, that's annoying. I also dislike having to make a bed on vacation or bring my own TP. Perhaps if you do this again just be sure you've read the reviews and can be assured that there's going to be enough supplies provided, and that even the non-master bedrooms are comfortable.

Also families are tricky! I hope you're still all enjoying the trip. Things don't have to be heaven or hell - they can just be a little bit of normal life - you like some of it, don't like some. I feel like that's part of being comfortable with people - that you can acknowledge the parts of something that aren't great, without putting your whole relationship at risk.

This. My ILs will very generously pay for trip accommodations, generally much nicer than we would have gotten on our own, and then without fail MIL complains about the rental's shortcomings the entire time!! Some people are just born complainers.

That is key. I have friends with beach houses, and their own house is the only place they enjoy - they diligently make sure everything works properly, and also make sure everyone (everyone) has comfortable and acceptable sleeping arrangements - NOT just the main master bedroom - that would be absurd.

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Anonymous[b wrote:]It’s honestly sad when you realize that you won’t have another relaxing, fun vacation until your kids are older. Traveling with little kids is so exhausting. Your DIL probably doesn’t realize how much she’s complaining, but you should try not to take it personally and give them a lot of slack.[/b] And if it’s too stressful or unfun for YOU to have them as guests when they’re stressed by their little kids, just don’t invite them for a few years.

+1

I'm surprised that parents thought children wouldn't change their lives, including their vacations a bit. Our vacations with our (now grown) kids were so much fun, a little different than pre-kids, but I wouldn't have missed those for the world. Especially as we were both working demanding jobs, those vacations were precious bonding time.

We did have limited vacation time, so I understand that not all adult kids want to spend it with the grandparents. We never got to do that as young parents, so I'm a little envious. It does seem that the trips with extended family give the parents some extra hands when it comes to entertaining the little ones. I guess that's a trade-off, even if the accommodations are not luxurious.

I would guess that some of the grown children invited to these weeks do not have parents/grandparents who are involved and engaged - but rather, some just like bragging rights of "I took them to the beach". They leave out that there wasn't enough room for everyone, and the son and DIL got a room where they could not sleep.

If it really isn't a big deal, as so many MIL posters seem to think, why don't they switch rooms with the DIL and son?

This question has been asked multiple times on this thread and the response is...crickets. Very telling.

+1

MIL would never even have considered being a good hostess and switching rooms, and we all know that.

MIL, don't be so gross - act like you have parents, yourself.

Who are you talking to? OP hasn't visited this thread in days. Let it die already. Or seek help for your barely contained rage against MILs.

Whoa - talk about rage - maybe stop projecting.

It sounds like OP does not want her DIL there on vacation with her.

Much like you.

dp It's funny but the op never singled out her DIL. If you read the original post she mentions her SON/dil are complaining. Honestly, if I was op I wouldn't want a constant complainer on my vacation either. Would you?

Why is one or two things considered "constant" complaining?? Maybe OP straight out asked how DIL slept, and DIL told her??? People are supposed to be robots now??

WTH??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MIL/OP - it sounds like you came to this board to rally hate against "terrible" DILs, only to have it blow up in your face.

Let it be a lesson to you.

You are never (ever) too old to learn!

Unhinged.

You are correct. MIL seems unhinged.

It’s scary you have kids.

Wrong again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP would you be happier if your son/DIL left early? Because if I was expected to share a room that let in light at 4:45 AM with my toddler, I would immediately relocate to a hotel. My husband would be racing me out the door. If someone called that experience a “free vacation” I would laugh.

How much input did you get into this trip? How much care and consideration did you put into the accommodations for anyone other than yourself? You’re not coming back but I’m hoping other posters of your age who like to travel this way will think this through: if you invite people to a rental you are offering them your hospitality. Giving people sub-par accommodations and then expecting them to be grateful reflects on you as the host.

x100000

OP would be so proud to provide them a tent, and expect guests not to say anything about it. GTFO.

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This thread is useless without a link to the house we are discussin

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is useless without a link to the house we are discussin

I suppose - but it also is a living memorial to how some MILs are looking to fault their DIL for most anything.

OP, is the DIL supposed to just kiss your feet? I'm not sure OP is living in reality.

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Anonymous[b wrote:]It’s honestly sad when you realize that you won’t have another relaxing, fun vacation until your kids are older. Traveling with little kids is so exhausting. Your DIL probably doesn’t realize how much she’s complaining, but you should try not to take it personally and give them a lot of slack.[/b] And if it’s too stressful or unfun for YOU to have them as guests when they’re stressed by their little kids, just don’t invite them for a few years.

+1

I'm surprised that parents thought children wouldn't change their lives, including their vacations a bit. Our vacations with our (now grown) kids were so much fun, a little different than pre-kids, but I wouldn't have missed those for the world. Especially as we were both working demanding jobs, those vacations were precious bonding time.

We did have limited vacation time, so I understand that not all adult kids want to spend it with the grandparents. We never got to do that as young parents, so I'm a little envious. It does seem that the trips with extended family give the parents some extra hands when it comes to entertaining the little ones. I guess that's a trade-off, even if the accommodations are not luxurious.

I would guess that some of the grown children invited to these weeks do not have parents/grandparents who are involved and engaged - but rather, some just like bragging rights of "I took them to the beach". They leave out that there wasn't enough room for everyone, and the son and DIL got a room where they could not sleep.

If it really isn't a big deal, as so many MIL posters seem to think, why don't they switch rooms with the DIL and son?

This question has been asked multiple times on this thread and the response is...crickets. Very telling.

+1

MIL would never even have considered being a good hostess and switching rooms, and we all know that.

MIL, don't be so gross - act like you have parents, yourself.

Who are you talking to? OP hasn't visited this thread in days. Let it die already. Or seek help for your barely contained rage against MILs.

Whoa - talk about rage - maybe stop projecting.

It sounds like OP does not want her DIL there on vacation with her.

Much like you.

dp It's funny but the op never singled out her DIL. If you read the original post she mentions her SON/dil are complaining. Honestly, if I was op I wouldn't want a constant complainer on my vacation either. Would you?

Right?!! This whole thread has been focused on DIL but OP, herself, didn’t single her out. In my opinion it is more of the son’s issue and he is rude to complain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous[b wrote:]It’s honestly sad when you realize that you won’t have another relaxing, fun vacation until your kids are older. Traveling with little kids is so exhausting. Your DIL probably doesn’t realize how much she’s complaining, but you should try not to take it personally and give them a lot of slack.[/b] And if it’s too stressful or unfun for YOU to have them as guests when they’re stressed by their little kids, just don’t invite them for a few years.

+1

I'm surprised that parents thought children wouldn't change their lives, including their vacations a bit. Our vacations with our (now grown) kids were so much fun, a little different than pre-kids, but I wouldn't have missed those for the world. Especially as we were both working demanding jobs, those vacations were precious bonding time.

We did have limited vacation time, so I understand that not all adult kids want to spend it with the grandparents. We never got to do that as young parents, so I'm a little envious. It does seem that the trips with extended family give the parents some extra hands when it comes to entertaining the little ones. I guess that's a trade-off, even if the accommodations are not luxurious.

I would guess that some of the grown children invited to these weeks do not have parents/grandparents who are involved and engaged - but rather, some just like bragging rights of "I took them to the beach". They leave out that there wasn't enough room for everyone, and the son and DIL got a room where they could not sleep.

If it really isn't a big deal, as so many MIL posters seem to think, why don't they switch rooms with the DIL and son?

This question has been asked multiple times on this thread and the response is...crickets. Very telling.

+1

MIL would never even have considered being a good hostess and switching rooms, and we all know that.

MIL, don't be so gross - act like you have parents, yourself.

Who are you talking to? OP hasn't visited this thread in days. Let it die already. Or seek help for your barely contained rage against MILs.

Whoa - talk about rage - maybe stop projecting.

It sounds like OP does not want her DIL there on vacation with her.

Much like you.

dp It's funny but the op never singled out her DIL. If you read the original post she mentions her SON/dil are complaining. Honestly, if I was op I wouldn't want a constant complainer on my vacation either. Would you?

Right?!! This whole thread has been focused on DIL but OP, herself, didn’t single her out. In my opinion it is more of the son’s issue and he is rude to complain.

Yeah, but what if there is a backstory to how OP treats that son, for example? We are only hearing a small part of the story, and then, only from OP's side.

My friend's MIL blatantly favors her daughter (who, no surprise looks and acts just like the MIL - NOT in a good way) - and takes everyone in the family but one grown child on vacation - that is pretty sh*tty. But, to hear this friend's MIL - you would think that one child is perfect (daughter), and one child is n'er do well (son)- when in fact , IRL, it is the opposite of how the MIL treats them. So, you never know the whole story. When the (truly) perfect child stands up to MIL, there is hell to pay. I am guessing, not that different than OP.

Point being, there is more than one side to the story, and OP isn't going out of her way to clarify anything - probably because she knows she is a lazy host, or a terrible mom, or somewhere in between.