Seriously with the book banning ?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

Do I also get to take things out of schools I find objectionable? I find the pledge of allegiance objectionable on several levels. Can I have it removed so that not just my but all kids are not exposed to it? Do you agree that’s my right as a parent?

The Pledge of Allegiance? Why is that objectionable to you?

Because it’s indoctrination. On a superficial level I don’t believe kids should feel pressure to mention god in schools. And I think mindless chants like this are at best silly and at worst too like the indoctrination that took place in authoritarian regimes of the 20th century, both fascist and communist.

Also do you not know any Jehovah’s Witnesses? If your school had a number of families of that faith you ok with them petitioning to get rid of the pledge?

DP. So you consider the Pledge of Allegiance “mindless indoctrination,” but you’re a-ok with books that depict graphic sex acts in our public school libraries. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

No one is making kids read those books and they are certainly not reading them aloud in the classroom on a daily basis.
Are you that bad at arguing your point? Apparently so.

We have so many kids in this country who are unsupervised and accessing all kinds of violent and sexually explicit materials in their homes. Public schools do not need to be making such materials easily available.

Guess what, they're not! The book in question is nowhere near what you seem to be describing.

I bet you want to ban Toni Morrison, too, don't you.

How about we ban the Bible? Talk about explicit! Rapes, murder, teenagers being impregnated by god, descriptions of genitals. I'd like to ban that in every school. Agree?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

Do I also get to take things out of schools I find objectionable? I find the pledge of allegiance objectionable on several levels. Can I have it removed so that not just my but all kids are not exposed to it? Do you agree that’s my right as a parent?

The Pledge of Allegiance? Why is that objectionable to you?

Because it’s indoctrination. On a superficial level I don’t believe kids should feel pressure to mention god in schools. And I think mindless chants like this are at best silly and at worst too like the indoctrination that took place in authoritarian regimes of the 20th century, both fascist and communist.

Also do you not know any Jehovah’s Witnesses? If your school had a number of families of that faith you ok with them petitioning to get rid of the pledge?

DP. So you consider the Pledge of Allegiance “mindless indoctrination,” but you’re a-ok with books that depict graphic sex acts in our public school libraries. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

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How about the libraries take a sharpie and black out that one image you find objectionable. Then can the book stay in the library? At what point of censorship will you be okay with it in? Is it only that single image that isn't all that graphic, or is it that you object to any book that doesn't present a heteronormative situation?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Maybe they do and the Republican governor is still trying to override their objections.

I'm glad you think that locals should get to dictate their own rules. I hope that also counts in other areas such as abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

Do I also get to take things out of schools I find objectionable? I find the pledge of allegiance objectionable on several levels. Can I have it removed so that not just my but all kids are not exposed to it? Do you agree that’s my right as a parent?

The Pledge of Allegiance? Why is that objectionable to you?

Because it’s indoctrination. On a superficial level I don’t believe kids should feel pressure to mention god in schools. And I think mindless chants like this are at best silly and at worst too like the indoctrination that took place in authoritarian regimes of the 20th century, both fascist and communist.

Also do you not know any Jehovah’s Witnesses? If your school had a number of families of that faith you ok with them petitioning to get rid of the pledge?

DP. So you consider the Pledge of Allegiance “mindless indoctrination,” but you’re a-ok with books that depict graphic sex acts in our public school libraries. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

No one is making kids read those books and they are certainly not reading them aloud in the classroom on a daily basis.
Are you that bad at arguing your point? Apparently so.

We have so many kids in this country who are unsupervised and accessing all kinds of violent and sexually explicit materials in their homes. Public schools do not need to be making such materials easily available.

Guess what, they're not! The book in question is nowhere near what you seem to be describing.

I bet you want to ban Toni Morrison, too, don't you.

How about we ban the Bible? Talk about explicit! Rapes, murder, teenagers being impregnated by god, descriptions of genitals. I'd like to ban that in every school. Agree?

I think you know kids aren't checking out the Bible at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

Do I also get to take things out of schools I find objectionable? I find the pledge of allegiance objectionable on several levels. Can I have it removed so that not just my but all kids are not exposed to it? Do you agree that’s my right as a parent?

The Pledge of Allegiance? Why is that objectionable to you?

Because it’s indoctrination. On a superficial level I don’t believe kids should feel pressure to mention god in schools. And I think mindless chants like this are at best silly and at worst too like the indoctrination that took place in authoritarian regimes of the 20th century, both fascist and communist.

Also do you not know any Jehovah’s Witnesses? If your school had a number of families of that faith you ok with them petitioning to get rid of the pledge?

DP. So you consider the Pledge of Allegiance “mindless indoctrination,” but you’re a-ok with books that depict graphic sex acts in our public school libraries. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

No one is making kids read those books and they are certainly not reading them aloud in the classroom on a daily basis.
Are you that bad at arguing your point? Apparently so.

We have so many kids in this country who are unsupervised and accessing all kinds of violent and sexually explicit materials in their homes. Public schools do not need to be making such materials easily available.

Guess what, they're not! The book in question is nowhere near what you seem to be describing.

I bet you want to ban Toni Morrison, too, don't you.

How about we ban the Bible? Talk about explicit! Rapes, murder, teenagers being impregnated by god, descriptions of genitals. I'd like to ban that in every school. Agree?

I think you know kids aren't checking out the Bible at school.

I thought the point was to ban things conservatives fine objectionable like violent and sexual material, not whether it’s popular or not. There’s no consistency.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Nah, fascism isn’t appropriate anywhere. Parents could already put a book on their tiny little high schooler’s no no list so they couldn’t check it out but nooooo the control freak conservatives have to take away this book from all the ittle wittle high schoolers to “protect” them.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Nah, fascism isn’t appropriate anywhere. Parents could already put a book on their tiny little high schooler’s no no list so they couldn’t check it out but nooooo the control freak conservatives have to take away this book from all the ittle wittle high schoolers to “protect” them.

I was in Marshall HS today and was surprised what books were being promoted in the library display, along with the amount of pro LGBTQIP+ stuff all over campus. From the looks of it, you wouldn't think any other demographic existed on campus. I would have expected to see more signage for pro BIPOC issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

Do I also get to take things out of schools I find objectionable? I find the pledge of allegiance objectionable on several levels. Can I have it removed so that not just my but all kids are not exposed to it? Do you agree that’s my right as a parent?

The Pledge of Allegiance? Why is that objectionable to you?

Because it’s indoctrination. On a superficial level I don’t believe kids should feel pressure to mention god in schools. And I think mindless chants like this are at best silly and at worst too like the indoctrination that took place in authoritarian regimes of the 20th century, both fascist and communist.

Also do you not know any Jehovah’s Witnesses? If your school had a number of families of that faith you ok with them petitioning to get rid of the pledge?

DP. So you consider the Pledge of Allegiance “mindless indoctrination,” but you’re a-ok with books that depict graphic sex acts in our public school libraries. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

No one is making kids read those books and they are certainly not reading them aloud in the classroom on a daily basis.
Are you that bad at arguing your point? Apparently so.

We have so many kids in this country who are unsupervised and accessing all kinds of violent and sexually explicit materials in their homes. Public schools do not need to be making such materials easily available.

Guess what, they're not! The book in question is nowhere near what you seem to be describing.

I bet you want to ban Toni Morrison, too, don't you.

How about we ban the Bible? Talk about explicit! Rapes, murder, teenagers being impregnated by god, descriptions of genitals. I'd like to ban that in every school. Agree?

I think you know kids aren't checking out the Bible at school.

My kids never checked out Gender Queer. Hmm...

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Nah, fascism isn’t appropriate anywhere. Parents could already put a book on their tiny little high schooler’s no no list so they couldn’t check it out but nooooo the control freak conservatives have to take away this book from all the ittle wittle high schoolers to “protect” them.

I was in Marshall HS today and was surprised what books were being promoted in the library display, along with the amount of pro LGBTQIP+ stuff all over campus. From the looks of it, you wouldn't think any other demographic existed on campus. I would have expected to see more signage for pro BIPOC issues.

What, no pro-hetersexual stuff??

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Nah, fascism isn’t appropriate anywhere. Parents could already put a book on their tiny little high schooler’s no no list so they couldn’t check it out but nooooo the control freak conservatives have to take away this book from all the ittle wittle high schoolers to “protect” them.

I was in Marshall HS today and was surprised what books were being promoted in the library display, along with the amount of pro LGBTQIP+ stuff all over campus. From the looks of it, you wouldn't think any other demographic existed on campus. I would have expected to see more signage for pro BIPOC issues.

What, no pro-hetersexual stuff??

That's passe.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Nah, fascism isn’t appropriate anywhere. Parents could already put a book on their tiny little high schooler’s no no list so they couldn’t check it out but nooooo the control freak conservatives have to take away this book from all the ittle wittle high schoolers to “protect” them.

I was in Marshall HS today and was surprised what books were being promoted in the library display, along with the amount of pro LGBTQIP+ stuff all over campus. From the looks of it, you wouldn't think any other demographic existed on campus. I would have expected to see more signage for pro BIPOC issues.

What, no pro-hetersexual stuff??

That's passe.

I mean, I see the hetersexual agenda / lifestyle promoted everywhere. TV, movies, music, books, advertisement.

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Banning books first sign of a Fascist regime

Love it Republicans think the ones in power won't come for them. HAHAHAHAHA

Agree it is one of the first signs, but so is censoring on social media. 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

Do I also get to take things out of schools I find objectionable? I find the pledge of allegiance objectionable on several levels. Can I have it removed so that not just my but all kids are not exposed to it? Do you agree that’s my right as a parent?

The Pledge of Allegiance? Why is that objectionable to you?

Because it’s indoctrination. On a superficial level I don’t believe kids should feel pressure to mention god in schools. And I think mindless chants like this are at best silly and at worst too like the indoctrination that took place in authoritarian regimes of the 20th century, both fascist and communist.

Also do you not know any Jehovah’s Witnesses? If your school had a number of families of that faith you ok with them petitioning to get rid of the pledge?

DP. So you consider the Pledge of Allegiance “mindless indoctrination,” but you’re a-ok with books that depict graphic sex acts in our public school libraries. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

No one is making kids read those books and they are certainly not reading them aloud in the classroom on a daily basis.
Are you that bad at arguing your point? Apparently so.

We have so many kids in this country who are unsupervised and accessing all kinds of violent and sexually explicit materials in their homes. Public schools do not need to be making such materials easily available.

Guess what, they're not! The book in question is nowhere near what you seem to be describing.

I bet you want to ban Toni Morrison, too, don't you.

How about we ban the Bible? Talk about explicit! Rapes, murder, teenagers being impregnated by god, descriptions of genitals. I'd like to ban that in every school. Agree?

I think you know kids aren't checking out the Bible at school.

I thought the point was to ban things conservatives fine objectionable like violent and sexual material, not whether it’s popular or not. There’s no consistency.

First of all, i work in public schools evaluatiing kids. If there is a Bible in the middle or high school media centers in my school system, you'd have to look hard to find them. I would have no objection to Toni Morrison's books in a senior high school. I stand by my previous comments that I do not think any sexually explicit materials should be in an elementary or middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Interesting that no one could give specific example of this.

Why does someone have to be “personally harmed” for it to be wrong? Would you like *your* young children exposed to, say, a religion you don’t practice or political opinions you don’t agree with - while in school?? You’d be the first to be outraged about that. Such hypocrisy. Read all the sexual books you want with your kids. Leave mine out of it.

We’re talking about high school. Do you think high schoolers have to be sheltered fromm”sexual content” in the form of a comic book?

I have no problem with my teenagers reading this book.

I have no problem with children learning about different religions at any age. What a weird fear.

NP. Yes, I want my high schooler to be sheltered from sexual content. That's a parenting decision. You can make a different parenting decision. We can both have what we want by not placing highly sexual content in schools.

So, I'm curious, for parents who don't want Gender Queer in their high school library, how do you monitor your child's media exposure in general? Do they have phones? Internet access? Social media? Do you monitor their internet use? There is so much sexual content everywhere - how do you shelter your teen from our society?

I handle it mostly by talking to them about what they're reading / watching / viewing, and making sure they know our values around that. We live in a society with constant exposure to things I find objectionable, and at some point, it's on me to make sure they know what's right and to trust that I've taught them to make good decisions.

It's immaterial. Sexually explicit material doesnt have a place in school, particularly because schooling is compulsary. If you want your children to read it, then get it for them. It has no redeeming educational value. Its a cultural thing, and many find it morally objectionable. Surely you can understand why similar themes, like "the joy of traditional family structures" would not be acceptable.

Just because you think this particular book has no redeeming value doesn’t mean others don’t see the value.

You seem to be suggesting that all school libraries get emptied because there is bound to be one parent who finds no redeeming educational value in every single book.

“Emptied”? Hyperbole, much? We’re talking about certain sexually explicit books - that’s it. Feel free to buy that garbage for your own kids.
DP

That’s it for now. You’re clearly a right winger and have been well indoctrinated, but there are historical examples of the path the GOP is on, and it doesn’t stop with “sekshually GrApHiC” books.

Then you go live in an area where others share your views.

Nah, fascism isn’t appropriate anywhere. Parents could already put a book on their tiny little high schooler’s no no list so they couldn’t check it out but nooooo the control freak conservatives have to take away this book from all the ittle wittle high schoolers to “protect” them.

I was in Marshall HS today and was surprised what books were being promoted in the library display, along with the amount of pro LGBTQIP+ stuff all over campus. From the looks of it, you wouldn't think any other demographic existed on campus. I would have expected to see more signage for pro BIPOC issues.

What, no pro-hetersexual stuff??

No I was expecting other groups to have representation. Plenty of other groups need support.