2022 US News Best National Universities
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There is one weirdo who derails every Columbia thread with their obsession about the School of General Studies. Not sure why they are obsessed with that School. Maybe they feel that their kid could have gotten in if it wasn’t for older professionals taking up spots. |
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| Harvard gives a huge advantage to legacies. More than the other individual ivys. I think what also helps Harvard is international reputation. Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard are probably the best known universities in the world |
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| Harvard gives a huge advantage to legacies. More than the other individual ivys. I think what also helps Harvard is international reputation. Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard are probably the best known universities in the world |
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Yes, and this will never change. Meanwhile among those "in the know", Stanford and MIT are way up there in fields that matter most these days. |
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Yiu are witnessing it in this thread - endless nitpicking about which schools belong in top 5-10 let alone top 50. Universities are paying exorbitant amounts of money on marketing while engaging in much cost cutting around hiring and paying teachers. Many College professors report they can barely afford basic items and have little job security. College attendance is doing down and rates of tuition are going way up even though it does not improve the quality of education received. The college reputation arms race has a direct impact on the ability of the vast majority of our children to gain access to and afford to complete university. The stats speak for themselves … |
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DS told me that Chinese undergrads (and other international students too) on his campus see getting accepted by the top-ranked ivies during undergrad (mostly HYP, Columbia, Penn, etc) as more desirable than Cambridge or Oxford because Oxbridge is seen as less selective and "admitted way too many Chinese kids." Should such a cross-admit rate exist, it would have probably been 80% ivies - 20% Oxbridge, which is quite fascinating and shows how desirable an American degree still is, to this day. |
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There was a survey done on "university superbrands" gathering the opinions of 10,000 academics worldwide and the result was: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/world-university-rankings-blog-how-university-superbrands-compare Harvard University Massachusetts Institute of Technology University of Oxford University of Cambridge Stanford University University of California, Berkeley Surprised to see Berkeley there, but also kind of makes sense considering that its STEM program is quite good. It's also one of the most well-known American schools globally, more so than any of the Ivies except Harvard. |
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?? The costs of college are a whole different subject. Obviously people are willing to pay, or banks and the government willing to lend. You don't have to, but don't blame USNWR on this. Costs will keep going up as long as people are willing to pay. [Va. resident pretty pleased with U.Va's tuition instate.  ).
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| Yeah Oxbridge and other UK universities are not nearly as prestigious as the top American universities, and haven't been for quite some time. They have sway in parts of Europe and Commonwealth/former Commonwealth countries, but even then, an American degree will often be seen as more desirable. |
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I am glad things worked out for you/ your kid. Mine is doing fine as well and did/ is doing very well at two public ivies. The public universities are doing much better at educating many first generation/Hispanic/ African American/ military vets than the private colleges. But they are also buying into the rankings nonsense as well and it is not without great cost. My concern is for the younger generation as a whole and for their futures. Giant hikes in College costs are closely related to College Reputation Rankings wars - please Read to the end - Try to connect the dots: the college reputation arms race is driving huge hikes in tuition fees which is driving student loan defaulting/ lack of access to, and ability to complete, high quality higher education … “Student Loan Debt Crisis: In the simplest terms, student borrowers are in crisis due to a rise in average debt and declining average wage values. In other words, a significant portion of indebted college graduates and non-graduate borrowers are unable to repay their debts. As unpaid debts continue to accrue interest, repayment becomes less likely.” “Americans owe a total of $1.71 trillion in federal and private student loan debt combined. Federal student loan debt alone totals $1.57 trillion. 15% of all American adults report they have outstanding undergraduate student debt. 12.4% of student loan debt in repayment is delinquent as of March 2020. 42.9 million federal borrowers and up to 3 million private borrowers owe student loan debt.” https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-crisis “The student loan debt growth rate outpaces the rise in tuition costs by 353.8%. 23.6% is the annual growth rate of the total student loan debt balance, or 513% faster than the growth rate of the nation's gross domestic product (3.85%). 94.8% of people with student loan debt borrowed for an undergraduate education.” Aug 17, 2021 “America’s universities are getting two report cards this year. The first, from the Equality of Opportunity Project, brought the shocking revelation that many top universities, including Princeton and Yale, admit more students from the top 1 percent of earners than the bottom 60 percent combined. The second, from U.S. News and World Report, is due on Tuesday — with Princeton and Yale among the contenders for the top spot in the annual rankings.” “The two are related: A POLITICO review shows that the criteria used in the U.S. News rankings — a measure so closely followed in the academic world that some colleges have built them into strategic plans — create incentives for schools to favor wealthier students over less wealthy applicants.” https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/top-college-rankings-list-2017-us-news-investigation/ “Brian Rosenberg, president of Macalester College, said he met with U.S. News officials and raised concerns that the rankings incentivize schools to spend more money when the cost of college is already skyrocketing. “The question I asked was, ‘Doesn’t this seem to run counter to what’s really in the public’s interest?’” he recalled. “The answer was, ‘Yes, we know it — but we don’t care.’” Someone has to care to stop the way this college reputation arms race nonsense is harming our children and their futures … Well connected and well educated DCUM parents could be part of the solution in stead of reinforcing the problem … |
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No offense, but the rankings haven't changed that much over the years, while the costs have risen exponentially. One has nothing to do with the other. |
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| the costs of college can't keep rising unless somebody pays. That's usually government loans or bank loans. Obviously these lenders think the price of a college tuition is worth it or they wouldn't keep lending. |
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Not sure international students agree with you - applications from foreign students have plummeted by nearly half …not only pandemic related … it Hs been declining since 2016 when the then administration made many foreign students feel unsafe/ devalued. Before then, international students were bringing in $ 44 billion a year to the US. |