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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it’s cute that Columbia, which is overwhelmingly a graduate/professional university, has ascended to the near top at USNWR.  It is a superlative school for sure, but definitely has benefited by playing into the criteria used by that ranking system. [/quote]

No idea what this means since everyone knows that Columbia has a very strong undergraduate presence [/quote]

A very strong undergraduate presence with 1/3 of its undergraduates not matriculated as 18 year olds out of high school?   Columbia’s stats are skewed by ignoring a huge minority of students who came through the back door.  Those same students in the College of General Studies take classes alongside Columbia College students, so it’s not like they have an entirely separate curriculum.   I highly doubt than any other of the top ten undergraduate schools have that high a percentage of alternative students.  [/quote]

Sorry, but you sound like a reject or someone with an inferiority complex.

Columbia College is one of the most selective undergraduate student bodies in the world. I was there and know who the students were at the College. The College undergraduates easily rivaled and often surpassed any and certainly most undergraduates I met at Oxford, and in my teaching in the UK after Oxford.

You sound quite misinformed. Perhaps,  do have a chip on your shoulder for some reason ? [/quote]

DS told me that Chinese undergrads (and other international students too) on his campus see getting accepted by the top-ranked ivies during undergrad (mostly HYP, Columbia, Penn, etc) as more desirable than Cambridge or Oxford because Oxbridge is seen as less selective and "admitted way too many Chinese kids." Should such a cross-admit rate exist, it would have probably been 80% ivies - 20% Oxbridge, which is quite fascinating and shows how desirable an American degree still is, to this day. [/quote]

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