Biden's VP?

[Anonymous]

Whitmer is scheduled to speak at DNC on Monday. What does this mean?

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/11/report-whitmer-speak-monday-vp-pick-wednesday-dem-convention/3342267001/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's Gretchen Whitmer.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

The pros and cons list in the link is interesting. I didn't know there were concerns about Rice in terms of message discipline. I respect her very much, but this seems like a dangerous combo with Biden's own issues in his area!

Oy. She's brilliant and could end up being a great pick in terms of a partnership, but so so risky.

The problem is that the majority of the leading candidates are very risky in different ways. Harris, Warren, Bass, Rice, Whitmer and Demings are all very risky.

Duckworth and Lujan Grisham are the least risky of the leading contenders.

Why is Whitmer "risky" and Grisham not risky? Weird.

[Anonymous]

Beau Biden died after long battle with brain cancer.

As did Gretchen Whitmer's mother...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whitmer is scheduled to speak at DNC on Monday. What does this mean?

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/11/report-whitmer-speak-monday-vp-pick-wednesday-dem-convention/3342267001/

It means nothing. See discussion a few pages back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's Gretchen Whitmer.

Source?

Ignore. There have been dozens of people (or just the same jokester) who has said with utter conviction that it’s this person or that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Beau Biden died after long battle with brain cancer.

As did Gretchen Whitmer's mother...

And Karen Bass also lost a child at a young age, Grisham's husband died of an aneurism at a young age, Beau and Kamala were friends... we could do this all day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think if Duckworth were AA, she would have gotten the nod already. She’s not the smoothest politician but has a lot of upside elsewhere. Hard to attack someone with her credentials.

I’m intrigued by Bass, she’s probably the one I’m least familiar with.

I was also intrigued by Bass but communism and Castro stuff wasn’t handled well by her.

Definitely true, but the campaign would have stronger responses planned moving forward (the delegates letter supporting her had some Cuban-Americans say how great it was that she loved Cuba and its people, she's served on a pro-democracy board, visited political prisoners etc). I've read a lot about her and think she's pretty wonderful, but am not sure she's that comfortable in the spotlight. She's pretty low-key.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Beau Biden died after long battle with brain cancer.

As did Gretchen Whitmer's mother...

And Karen Bass also lost a child at a young age, Grisham's husband died of an aneurism at a young age, Beau and Kamala were friends... we could do this all day.

Joe and Gretchen's shared tragedy is powerful bond. And Whitmer's Lt. Gov. becoming Michigan's first -- and the country's only current -- Black governor is a humdinger of a win/win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beau Biden died after long battle with brain cancer.

As did Gretchen Whitmer's mother...

And Karen Bass also lost a child at a young age, Grisham's husband died of an aneurism at a young age, Beau and Kamala were friends... we could do this all day.

Joe and Gretchen's shared tragedy is powerful bond. And Whitmer's Lt. Gov. becoming Michigan's first -- and the country's only current -- Black governor is a humdinger of a win/win.

I think the most important factor favoring Whitmer is that Joes just likes her. Their politics are virtually the same and his advisors say they mesh well. That is an intangible that really does matter for a guy like Joe. Not saying she's definitely the pick, but she could be.

[Anonymous]

Why is Whitmer "risky" and Grisham not risky? Weird.

DP. Maybe, because Grisham is likeable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the GOP would use Rice's on son against her. Risky pick.


It's been mentioned before, and I consider myself a part of the group that thinks VP will not be any of the "top" ladies.

I hope it does not tear her family apart.

It won't. They've had these political differences for many years and they've weathered it. At least they present a united front that they have their differences, but still love and support each other.

Even Fox News which loves to throw divisiveness around, had this article about how it is not driving them apart.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

[Anonymous]

More specifics on the VP team being put into place. All Biden people, as expected, but she'll apparently have some discretion in bringing staff of her own:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-campaign-puts-vp-team-place-ahead-announcement-n1236359

[Anonymous]

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Why is Whitmer "risky" and Grisham not risky? Weird.

DP. Maybe, because Grisham is likeable.

I know sexists love to talk about likability with women - but why is Gretchen Whitmer not likable exactly?

[Anonymous]

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The problem is that the majority of the leading candidates are very risky in different ways. Harris, Warren, Bass, Rice, Whitmer and Demings are all very risky.

Duckworth and Lujan Grisham are the least risky of the leading contenders.

Why is Whitmer "risky" and Grisham not risky? Weird.

Race is a huge part of it. You may not have realized, but the nation is currently facing a large racial divide. While neither candidate is black, which is where the greatest impact would be, Whitmer is a white American with no minority status at all. Lujan Grisham is of Latino descent and part of a very large political family that has several generations of "Latino firsts" in politics and New Mexican history. They have been historic in keeping Latino issues and priorities moving forward in the Southwest. Whitmer, does not add any minority representation or credentials to the ticket. For those who want to see more minority representation, they first and foremost want to see a black candidate, but if he is not going to pick a black candidate, at least they want to see a POC, so Duckworth and Lujan Grisham both check off minority status. Yes, it is identity politics, but identity politics may be especially crucial this year with the race riots achieving new heights.

Also Lujan Grisham's is far more experienced where it matters. In addition to both serving as successful governors responding to the pandemic crisis, Lujan Grisham also spent several years as the NM secretary of health. Lujan Grisham served three terms in Congress including several years as the head of the US House of Representatives Hispanic Caucus. She has both federal and state experience. Whitmer has only state experience (albeit a lot of it) and no federal experience. If Biden is looking for someone to be a bridge to the Congress, then Lujan Grisham has several years experience and many personal connections with sitting Congressman to rely on. Whitmer has no national level experience and no ties to anyone in Congress in either house. It is risky to bring someone with no federal experience to Washington and having them serve as the liason to Congress and the President of the Senate.