Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Wise doesn’t describe Harris. It does describe Rice and the mention of overseas confirms its likely her.

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VP's chief of staff has been named: Karine Jean-Pierre

Wouldn't the veep nominee choose the chief of staff?

I think they want to hit the ground running since this is going to be a strange campaigning season b/c of COVID, also because it looks like Whitmer is the pick, they want to surround her with insiders, including women of color, to help ease the transition to the national stage.

Yes, the Jean-Pierre pick does not necessarily mean the VP pick is Black by any means. But I think a PP made an interesting point that Wed night speaker line-up is mostly white, which could point to a Black VP pick.

And Barack Obama right after the VP nominee - leads me to believe that it would be Susan Rice. He was the one who advocated strongly for her and the lineup makes sense.

I think he would be expected to "anoint" the VP pick whoever it is, but he would be especially happy about Rice.

Rice would give the election to trump on a platter.

I fear this might be right.

I disagree. That she wrote the pandemic playbook for dummies and Trump tossed it will be such a positive campaign message. The GOP investigated Benghazi and found Rice did nothing wrong. Your fears are misplaced

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Wise doesn’t describe Harris. It does describe Rice and the mention of overseas confirms its likely her.

But representation on the Hill doesn't fit Rice. I don't know for sure, but do think the "wise counsel" part is telling.

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VP's chief of staff has been named: Karine Jean-Pierre

Wouldn't the veep nominee choose the chief of staff?

I think they want to hit the ground running since this is going to be a strange campaigning season b/c of COVID, also because it looks like Whitmer is the pick, they want to surround her with insiders, including women of color, to help ease the transition to the national stage.

Yes, the Jean-Pierre pick does not necessarily mean the VP pick is Black by any means. But I think a PP made an interesting point that Wed night speaker line-up is mostly white, which could point to a Black VP pick.

And Barack Obama right after the VP nominee - leads me to believe that it would be Susan Rice. He was the one who advocated strongly for her and the lineup makes sense.

I think he would be expected to "anoint" the VP pick whoever it is, but he would be especially happy about Rice.

Rice would give the election to trump on a platter.

I fear this might be right.

I disagree. That she wrote the pandemic playbook for dummies and Trump tossed it will be such a positive campaign message. The GOP investigated Benghazi and found Rice did nothing wrong. Your fears are misplaced

Won’t keep them from bringing it up again. Nothing excites the GOP quite like Benghazi and Hillary’s emails.

My main hesitation with Rice is that she’s not a politician and hasn’t had to speak like one. Who knows how many off the cuff, potentially damaging comments are out there.

This has become such a fiasco and if the Biden team blues it and we end up with 4 more years of Trump I’m going to lose my sh-t. But I’m also annoyed by the insistence by activists that is must be a black woman or else. They should be focusing on getting more female and minority candidates elected to higher office in general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Wise doesn’t describe Harris. It does describe Rice and the mention of overseas confirms its likely her.

I agree it doesn't describe Harris, but I never thought she made sense as a strong governing partner. If she's the pick, will be due to the electability issue.

I think wise counsel refers fundamentally to good communication--who is a good sounding board and helps him think things through and arrive at a well-vetted decision. In that case, several of them might fit. No one really perfectly fits both Hill and overseas.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Wise doesn’t describe Harris. It does describe Rice and the mention of overseas confirms its likely her.

But representation on the Hill doesn't fit Rice. I don't know for sure, but do think the "wise counsel" part is telling.

It’s overlooked by many but Rice spent years working with Congress. Please also note that here Valerie Jarrett refers to her “wise counsel”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/susan-rice-spent-years-white-house-make-return/story?id=71850600

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

The pros and cons list in the link is interesting. I didn't know there were concerns about Rice in terms of message discipline. I respect her very much, but this seems like a dangerous combo with Biden's own issues in his area!

Oy. She's brilliant and could end up being a great pick in terms of a partnership, but so so risky.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Wise doesn’t describe Harris. It does describe Rice and the mention of overseas confirms its likely her.

But representation on the Hill doesn't fit Rice. I don't know for sure, but do think the "wise counsel" part is telling.

It’s overlooked by many but Rice spent years working with Congress. Please also note that here Valerie Jarrett refers to her “wise counsel”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/susan-rice-spent-years-white-house-make-return/story?id=71850600

Can you tell me more about her work with Congress? I thought all of her work was executive branch, inter-agency stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

The pros and cons list in the link is interesting. I didn't know there were concerns about Rice in terms of message discipline. I respect her very much, but this seems like a dangerous combo with Biden's own issues in his area!

Oy. She's brilliant and could end up being a great pick in terms of a partnership, but so so risky.

The problem is that the majority of the leading candidates are very risky in different ways. Harris, Warren, Bass, Rice, Whitmer and Demings are all very risky.

Duckworth and Lujan Grisham are the least risky of the leading contenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Didn't know about Rice's long-time tendency to go rogue on messaging. Not wise, at all. Message control, especially now, is essential.

The negatives for Harris seem manageable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting Eric Garcetti interview. He's on the vetting team and stresses a few times in the interview that Biden is looking for wise counsel, like he provided to Obama, someone who can represent him on the Hill and overseas. That does not suggest picking a less experienced governing partner.

Does this really fit anyone other than Warren and Rice? Possibly Bass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/11/best-argument-against-each-biden-vp-pick/#comments-wrapper

Wise doesn’t describe Harris. It does describe Rice and the mention of overseas confirms its likely her.

Wise does not describe Rice either. It describes Bass and Warren only.

[Anonymous]

Here is John Kerry referring time Rice’s “wise counsel”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/u-n-ambassador-susan-rice-faces-her-first-test-as-top-u-s-diplomat

[Anonymous]

Won’t keep them from bringing it up again. Nothing excites the GOP quite like Benghazi and Hillary’s emails.

My main hesitation with Rice is that she’s not a politician and hasn’t had to speak like one. Who knows how many off the cuff, potentially damaging comments are out there.

This has become such a fiasco and if the Biden team blues it and we end up with 4 more years of Trump I’m going to lose my sh-t. But I’m also annoyed by the insistence by activists that is must be a black woman or else. They should be focusing on getting more female and minority candidates elected to higher office in general.

Even her recent calling Graham a POS was bad, just intemperate and not a good look for someone aspiring to high-level public politics. Something no one's mentioned is that she'd be an alienating pick in that the GOP will not work with her. Biden needs someone who is a bridge-builder and capable of working across the aisle, like a Bass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Won’t keep them from bringing it up again. Nothing excites the GOP quite like Benghazi and Hillary’s emails.

My main hesitation with Rice is that she’s not a politician and hasn’t had to speak like one. Who knows how many off the cuff, potentially damaging comments are out there.

This has become such a fiasco and if the Biden team blues it and we end up with 4 more years of Trump I’m going to lose my sh-t. But I’m also annoyed by the insistence by activists that is must be a black woman or else. They should be focusing on getting more female and minority candidates elected to higher office in general.

Even her recent calling Graham a POS was bad, just intemperate and not a good look for someone aspiring to high-level public politics. Something no one's mentioned is that she'd be an alienating pick in that the GOP will not work with her. Biden needs someone who is a bridge-builder and capable of working across the aisle, like a Bass.

or a Whitmer, maybe a Duckworth, I agree.

[Anonymous]

I think most people would agree with her assessment of Graham!