Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we had more real prosecutors on this board who would explain if the mother actually did anything wrong/could be charged with something based on what that news show said she said.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.

What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?

Toxicology. Obviously.

Sorry, typo on my part, I meant would they run that routinely?

For a suspected murder to determine exact cause of death I'd certainly think so.

The cause of death was being stabbed in the neck. Not a lot of mystery.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.

What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?

Toxicology. Obviously.

Sorry, typo on my part, I meant would they run that routinely?

For a suspected murder to determine exact cause of death I'd certainly think so.

The cause of death was being stabbed in the neck. Not a lot of mystery.

ME’s shouldn’t assume anything, that’s why they do a post mortem on all victims. Here’s a good long read on appearances being deceiving when it comes to cause of death

https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2013/5/the-body-in-room-348

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Anonymous wrote:That's not just a "knife" --- that's a meat cleaver! And the reporter says that BB used that meat cleaver to kill CB. So, if the reporter's retelling of what prosecutors said is accurate, prosecutors don't think CB was stabbed earlier that morning... they say that BB first shot JR, and then BB took the knife/meat cleaver that JR brought and stabbed CB in the neck.

The "knife" that they show isn't the kind of sharp pointy knife that I was expecting. It's the kind of knife that you CHOP things with. Or slice things. But it's not really a stabbing-kind of "knife". It's a slitting-kind of knife.

If CB was conscious when JR was shot, then maybe there was, in fact, an arrangement to play out a scene that CB knew about. (of course she didn't know that BB was actually going to use the playtime to kill two people, and she didn't know that JM would be waiting at the door with another gun).

Just because it's a slicing rather than stabbing knife doesn't mean CB agreed to any arrangement, and whether CB was conscious doesn't mean she agrees to it either. It seems pretty clear she was set up and likely both AP and BB both had guns pulled from the beginning. AP's story that BB told her to get the 2nd gun after the stabbing is likely a lie and she had it to ensure they could keep CB and JR in line while they commanded them to arrange the scene -both CB and JR under gunpoint of two people with two guns.

You are misreading my post and my point.
The knife type is not the reason I said CB MAY have agreed an arrangement.

How is JR IN the room with CB and CB isn't screaming that a stranger is in her house?

1. She expected him to be there? Or
2. She thought the sound of someone in the house was BB, and never saw JR until he was brought into the room at gunpoint x2 (JM and BB)?

The prosecution has to lay out a series of events that explain why CB is in the room while BB puts JR in the corner on his knees and shoots him, and CB is not running out of that room.

If CB didn't know anything about a meet up with JR, then JR almost certainly did NOT enter the bedroom before BB and JM arrived. In that case, both BB and JM would have had to have guns on JR and CB when they entered the bedroom or else CB would have tried to leave when BB (a stranger) was walking to the corner of her bedroom and kneeling down.


10 pages ago, I hypothesized that BB may have told JR to wait for him in the foyer before they went into the bedroom together. If that's what happened (even if it was at gunpoint), it explains why CB didn't call police about an unexpected stranger (JR) in her bedroom.

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Anonymous wrote:That's not just a "knife" --- that's a meat cleaver! And the reporter says that BB used that meat cleaver to kill CB. So, if the reporter's retelling of what prosecutors said is accurate, prosecutors don't think CB was stabbed earlier that morning... they say that BB first shot JR, and then BB took the knife/meat cleaver that JR brought and stabbed CB in the neck.

The "knife" that they show isn't the kind of sharp pointy knife that I was expecting. It's the kind of knife that you CHOP things with. Or slice things. But it's not really a stabbing-kind of "knife". It's a slitting-kind of knife.

If CB was conscious when JR was shot, then maybe there was, in fact, an arrangement to play out a scene that CB knew about. (of course she didn't know that BB was actually going to use the playtime to kill two people, and she didn't know that JM would be waiting at the door with another gun).

Just because it's a slicing rather than stabbing knife doesn't mean CB agreed to any arrangement, and whether CB was conscious doesn't mean she agrees to it either. It seems pretty clear she was set up and likely both AP and BB both had guns pulled from the beginning. AP's story that BB told her to get the 2nd gun after the stabbing is likely a lie and she had it to ensure they could keep CB and JR in line while they commanded them to arrange the scene -both CB and JR under gunpoint of two people with two guns.

You are misreading my post and my point.
The knife type is not the reason I said CB MAY have agreed an arrangement.

How is JR IN the room with CB and CB isn't screaming that a stranger is in her house?

1. She expected him to be there? Or
2. She thought the sound of someone in the house was BB, and never saw JR until he was brought into the room at gunpoint x2 (JM and BB)?

The prosecution has to lay out a series of events that explain why CB is in the room while BB puts JR in the corner on his knees and shoots him, and CB is not running out of that room.

If CB didn't know anything about a meet up with JR, then JR almost certainly did NOT enter the bedroom before BB and JM arrived. In that case, both BB and JM would have had to have guns on JR and CB when they entered the bedroom or else CB would have tried to leave when BB (a stranger) was walking to the corner of her bedroom and kneeling down.


10 pages ago, I hypothesized that BB may have told JR to wait for him in the foyer before they went into the bedroom together. If that's what happened (even if it was at gunpoint), it explains why CB didn't call police about an unexpected stranger (JR) in her bedroom.

It is a pretty easy set up, they could have just told JR to wait downstairs knowing CB was in the shower or was thinking it was BB, then come in and draw guns (I do believe rhe AP had the gun at the start rather than her story of getting it later. They already staged so much, it is much more logical to think they planned this part rather than CB was suddenly into BDSM and knife play. Not that there is anything wrong with that but it is just not logical that she set up such an extreme encounter with JR out of the blue. Much more logical that BB and the AP staged the situation, knew CB would be in the shower when JR came in, etc

[Anonymous]

Could Brendan have stabbed his wife, then taken a shower to clean up before he left to go to work, or do we know that she was alive when JR arrived?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could Brendan have stabbed his wife, then taken a shower to clean up before he left to go to work, or do we know that she was alive when JR arrived?

There was a time lapse between JR entering the house and BB/JPM entering the house. This is important because if Christine was stabbed in the bedroom JR would’ve had time to call 911, try to help, run, anything except staying in the bedroom. BUT, if BB had told JR to stay downstairs until he got home, he wouldn’t have known Christine was upstairs suffering. In that case, I think that scenario makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Could Brendan have stabbed his wife, then taken a shower to clean up before he left to go to work, or do we know that she was alive when JR arrived?

But isn’t the prosecution saying that Brendan stabbed her with the knife that JR brought?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we had more real prosecutors on this board who would explain if the mother actually did anything wrong/could be charged with something based on what that news show said she said.

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Whether she could technically be charged in VA or not, we all have to wait and see if she WILL BE, no? Davis seems very solicitous re: the little girl. Christine's family is trying to get custody. Maybe Big Momma won't have any repercussions until the child would not be at risk of foster care. Maybe they will give her more rope to hang herself for a bit, the pressure will only increase. I'm curious if she made the jail threats before or after BB's arrest?

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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/blood-spatter-analysis-helped-investigation-husband-charged-killing-114302852

Authorities allege Ryan came to the house after messaging the profile’s user on Telegram and scheduling a sexual rendezvous. Ryan told a friend Christine’s marriage was not entirely monogamous, adding that Brendan Banfield was aware “of the extramarital activity of his wife,” Clingan said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Could Brendan have stabbed his wife, then taken a shower to clean up before he left to go to work, or do we know that she was alive when JR arrived?

But isn’t the prosecution saying that Brendan stabbed her with the knife that JR brought?

Yes, they are. He was solicited to bring one and to send a photo of it per an earlier AP hearing.

Neighbor's Ring cameras captured BB, AP and child entering the home from the rear, maybe that is the 2nd access door for the AP suite?

AP was questioning why he was still in a rx with her. There is no "rx" in their future but with a cellmate. She would be a moron not to offer cooperation. She could get a public defender. With a credit for time served she could be deported home while still young.

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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/blood-spatter-analysis-helped-investigation-husband-charged-killing-114302852

Authorities allege Ryan came to the house after messaging the profile’s user on Telegram and scheduling a sexual rendezvous. Ryan told a friend Christine’s marriage was not entirely monogamous, adding that Brendan Banfield was aware “of the extramarital activity of his wife,” Clingan said.

Yes, this was the lure/ruse/smear strategy. Authorities allege the messaging was by BB or AP POSING as CB.

Not to restate the obvious, even if CB had been shagging half the town, and there is NO evidence she was, rather that BB was, it's not a defense for BB and AP to have brutally murdered 2 humans in cold blood.

Having brought a 4 year old onto the premises and left her unaccompanied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/blood-spatter-analysis-helped-investigation-husband-charged-killing-114302852

Authorities allege Ryan came to the house after messaging the profile’s user on Telegram and scheduling a sexual rendezvous. Ryan told a friend Christine’s marriage was not entirely monogamous, adding that Brendan Banfield was aware “of the extramarital activity of his wife,” Clingan said.

What Ryan told a friend is likely only what BB/JM told him on fake CBs account; the friend's statement really doesn't mean anything more than that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/blood-spatter-analysis-helped-investigation-husband-charged-killing-114302852

Authorities allege Ryan came to the house after messaging the profile’s user on Telegram and scheduling a sexual rendezvous. Ryan told a friend Christine’s marriage was not entirely monogamous, adding that Brendan Banfield was aware “of the extramarital activity of his wife,” Clingan said.

That was the narrative BB and AP came up with. And it's an obvious lure to Joe who's profile indicated he was into cuck scenes (and who was open about it in his life). Very curious WHO exactly Joe met with in person, was it BB and AP or BB and CB? Or BB and one of his other affair partners? If so that person could be charged as an accessory. I'm guessing not CB since otherwise the claims by authorities that the profile was set up by someone posing as her makes no sense.

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