Fairfax County Double Murder

Anonymous
Unless AP flips we may never get a true sense of what CB did and did not know. I suspect she was in the dark and drugged, but without JR or CB here, we may never really be sure.

JR had not really done knife play, inducing him to bring a weapon was part of the ruse and lure in the comms w/ he thought CB but really BB or AP.
Anonymous


Just saw this, not from today but earlier in week.

Televising AP's trial is going to be insane. Maybe she will take a plea deal.

There is no happily ever after with BB, there is cutting down on her own prison time AND doing the right thing.
Anonymous


AP was chasing $ and a chance to stay in US. Not sure why other women were interested in BB.

Genuinely hope Big Momma is charged for obstruction of justice and threatening AP if she talks. All recorded in the jail. She must not be too smart but arrogant like sonny boy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.


What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That's not just a "knife" --- that's a meat cleaver! And the reporter says that BB used that meat cleaver to kill CB. So, if the reporter's retelling of what prosecutors said is accurate, prosecutors don't think CB was stabbed earlier that morning... they say that BB first shot JR, and then BB took the knife/meat cleaver that JR brought and stabbed CB in the neck.

The "knife" that they show isn't the kind of sharp pointy knife that I was expecting. It's the kind of knife that you CHOP things with. Or slice things. But it's not really a stabbing-kind of "knife". It's a slitting-kind of knife.

If CB was conscious when JR was shot, then maybe there was, in fact, an arrangement to play out a scene that CB knew about. (of course she didn't know that BB was actually going to use the playtime to kill two people, and she didn't know that JM would be waiting at the door with another gun).



OR… she thought she was actually about to be raped!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.


What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?


Toxicology. Obviously.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.


What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?


Toxicology. Obviously.


Sorry, typo on my part, I meant would they run that routinely?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.


What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?


Toxicology. Obviously.


Sorry, typo on my part, I meant would they run that routinely?


For a suspected murder to determine exact cause of death I'd certainly think so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.


What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?


It is routine to run tox panels for blood and urine for all deaths of unknown origin. For a death that looks like murder? Full tox panels on blood, urine, tissues, vitrious humor, the whole shebang.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question here. If CB had been drugged in any way beforehand a medical examiner would have found that pretty quickly, right? Could police have kept such a discovery from going public in order to build their case against BB? It’s not as though LE has to reveal all its cards during an investigation.


What routine test you would run after someone was stabbed?


Toxicology. Obviously.


Sorry, typo on my part, I meant would they run that routinely?


For a suspected murder to determine exact cause of death I'd certainly think so.


They obviously would have taken a blood sample to determine the type of blood she needed since she had been bleeding so much. They would probably test that blood for any substances in case she needed to be given medications to treat her. I'm sure they tested her blood either before or after she passed. They know if she was on something. I think that would have come out by now. Police would have had some evidence and would have said she was drugged.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Just saw this, not from today but earlier in week.

Televising AP's trial is going to be insane. Maybe she will take a plea deal.

There is no happily ever after with BB, there is cutting down on her own prison time AND doing the right thing.


It appears to me that the prosecutors and investigators just did a masterful job in their tradecraft by biding their time and collecting evidence.

It appears that they don't need to offer JM a deal(or much of a deal). They feel they don't need her as a witness against BB.

Big Momma seems to be flirting with accessory after the fact. Tess hitched her wagon to a losing horse. I'm not unsympathetic to Big Momma's love for her son.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:16:47 here.

I'm saying that if CB did not know anything about JR being there, she would have been upset about a strange man being in her bedroom. So if she was not already stabbed when JR arrived (which we don't know), then she must have been expecting either BB to return, or she was expecting BB AND JR for some sex games.



She was likely drugged, one less variable. Perhaps in the context of it being BBs bday the day b4. Case in France shows how easy it is to slip something into wine, etc.


That would make it easier for JR to show up in the bedroom without CB screaming and calling the police. Surely, BB knew that there would be testing of the victim (CB's) blood... why would he drug her knowing that the hospital would have to take some of her blood?


Rape drugs like GHB only stay detectable in the blood for up to 8 hours. Wouldn’t be detectable
Anonymous
I wish we had more real prosecutors on this board who would explain if the mother actually did anything wrong/could be charged with something based on what that news show said she said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That's not just a "knife" --- that's a meat cleaver! And the reporter says that BB used that meat cleaver to kill CB. So, if the reporter's retelling of what prosecutors said is accurate, prosecutors don't think CB was stabbed earlier that morning... they say that BB first shot JR, and then BB took the knife/meat cleaver that JR brought and stabbed CB in the neck.

The "knife" that they show isn't the kind of sharp pointy knife that I was expecting. It's the kind of knife that you CHOP things with. Or slice things. But it's not really a stabbing-kind of "knife". It's a slitting-kind of knife.

If CB was conscious when JR was shot, then maybe there was, in fact, an arrangement to play out a scene that CB knew about. (of course she didn't know that BB was actually going to use the playtime to kill two people, and she didn't know that JM would be waiting at the door with another gun).



Just because it's a slicing rather than stabbing knife doesn't mean CB agreed to any arrangement, and whether CB was conscious doesn't mean she agrees to it either. It seems pretty clear she was set up and likely both AP and BB both had guns pulled from the beginning. AP's story that BB told her to get the 2nd gun after the stabbing is likely a lie and she had it to ensure they could keep CB and JR in line while they commanded them to arrange the scene -both CB and JR under gunpoint of two people with two guns.
Anonymous
“Brendan allegedly stabbed Christine several times in the neck” -DC News Now quote from
the bond hearing today.
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