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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Your economic logic is severely flawed and even if it wasn’t it’s blame the victim BS. The groypers give similar justifications in other contexts. Very disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Is this five year review set in concrete? It seems to me to be a very, very bad policy to have famllies on pins and needles.

To me, boundaries should be adjusted when needed. And, that might be in two years--or never.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Grumble grumble, Langley. Keeping the streak alive, even on thanksgiving!

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Is this five year review set in concrete? It seems to me to be a very, very bad policy to have famllies on pins and needles.

To me, boundaries should be adjusted when needed. And, that might be in two years--or never.

Families are on pins and needles when they do ad hoc boundary reviews, too.

They have a formal policy that now commits them to reviewing boundaries every five years, but they could amend that policy or conclude at the end of a future review that few or no adjustments are warranted.

The factors that make HS adjustments controversial - such as moving kids out of AP schools into IB schools or moving kids to lower-rated schools - don’t change just because a review is ad hoc.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Is this five year review set in concrete? It seems to me to be a very, very bad policy to have famllies on pins and needles.

To me, boundaries should be adjusted when needed. And, that might be in two years--or never.

Families are on pins and needles when they do ad hoc boundary reviews, too.

They have a formal policy that now commits them to reviewing boundaries every five years, but they could amend that policy or conclude at the end of a future review that few or no adjustments are warranted.

The factors that make HS adjustments controversial - such as moving kids out of AP schools into IB schools or moving kids to lower-rated schools - don’t change just because a review is ad hoc.

DP. Families may be on pins and needles for ad hoc reviews, but at least the justification and goals are clearer in those situations, rather than playing a perpetual game of musical chairs that destroy the school system.

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They have a formal policy that now commits them to reviewing boundaries every five years, but they could amend that policy or conclude at the end of a future review that few or no adjustments are warranted.

And, when they did the South Lakes Boundary Study, they had a policy that high schools should be no larger than 2000 students. That was just after they had expanded Westfield to far more than that.
That was the "policy" because there was no other way to justify the changes. They used that policy to move kids from Westfield to South Lakes and from Chantilly to Oakton.

I suspect this "policy" will also be dropped in the trash. Honestly, they should look at needs--and, if there is an egregious problem adjust as needed. Coates is a prime example. It should have been adjusted before this school year. So, what did they do? Added more temporary classrooms where the space was already cramped.

Drive over there and take a look.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Grumble grumble, Langley. Keeping the streak alive, even on thanksgiving!

Get a life, sweetie pie!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Grumble grumble, Langley. Keeping the streak alive, even on thanksgiving!

Get a life, sweetie pie!!!

DP. Right back at you, in spades.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Is this five year review set in concrete? It seems to me to be a very, very bad policy to have famllies on pins and needles.

To me, boundaries should be adjusted when needed. And, that might be in two years--or never.

Yes.

The school board mandated that district wide rezoning will happen every 5 years when tgey revised Policy 8130 last summer.

Since rezoning is a 2 year process, and a 3rd year will be the actual moving of students to their new schools, this means that FCPS will have roughly 2 years of stability followed by 3 years of drama and chaos.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Is this five year review set in concrete? It seems to me to be a very, very bad policy to have famllies on pins and needles.

To me, boundaries should be adjusted when needed. And, that might be in two years--or never.

Yes.

The school board mandated that district wide rezoning will happen every 5 years when tgey revised Policy 8130 last summer.

Since rezoning is a 2 year process, and a 3rd year will be the actual moving of students to their new schools, this means that FCPS will have roughly 2 years of stability followed by 3 years of drama and chaos.

Ugh, this school board sucks. Going to drive the school system into a ditch with the instability.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.

Boundaries aren’t guaranteed in perpetuity. Even if the odd little carve-outs for Langley in Herndon and Reston made sense at one point - which they never did - growth in other areas closer to Langley means they’ll probably need to be sent back to Herndon in another five years.

Is this five year review set in concrete? It seems to me to be a very, very bad policy to have famllies on pins and needles.

To me, boundaries should be adjusted when needed. And, that might be in two years--or never.

Yes.

The school board mandated that district wide rezoning will happen every 5 years when tgey revised Policy 8130 last summer.

Since rezoning is a 2 year process, and a 3rd year will be the actual moving of students to their new schools, this means that FCPS will have roughly 2 years of stability followed by 3 years of drama and chaos.

Ugh, this school board sucks. Going to drive the school system into a ditch with the instability.

The SB will change and there will be a new 8130. I doubt they will do this again.
Remember, they had a policy that said the optimum high school membership was not over 2000--right after they expanded Westfield. Then, after awhile, they started building megaschools.

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I don’t think five-year reviews is a bad idea but the manner in which the current review has been carried out isn’t promising and the factors prioritized in Policy 8130 don’t align with what matters to most families.