Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that they are bringing public into this. You are there to make the best decisions for the county schools; not listen to a bunch of self interest serving parents. Make the best choices and we will live with it.

Agreed. They should have drafted plans to explore as a school board based on a specific criteria and then made a decision. Very few people want to change schools, the vast majority of people are happy with their school. The ones who want to move are normally at high FARMs schools and would be happy to move to a less poor school or at an IB school and want an AP school.

The families that I know at impoverished schools seem to be happy there and are more miffed that people look down on their schools. They find it offensive that people are so loudly trying to avoid their kids school where their kids are having a great experience.

Making this process a public one was destined to lead to disaster. And guess what happened?

That said, some of the original goals of the redistricting needed to be changed. The focus should have been on relieving the over crowding at schools and ending split feeders where they could.

It’s funny, in your first paragraph you admit that no one wants to be moved and that the public is against it, and then ignore that to discuss mediocre reasons to move kids.

Frankly, there is only one area that should be moved, and it should have happened at the start of this school year. That area is Coates. Nothing else rises to the level of urgent need that overcomes the immense damage that unnecessary moves does to kids.

They need to revert back to the old 8130 policy of moving kids when it needs to be done, rather than implement a catastrophic solution every five years searching for a real problem.

Just because people don’t want them doesn’t mean they are not needed. Chantilly, Centerville, WSHS, Coates, Parklawn and other schools were overcrowded. That has to be addressed whether it upsets families or not.

People complain about overcrowding but don’t want to be the ones moved. The answer when there is space at nearby schools is to move kids even if it angers the families moving.

Wshs can be easily fixed with minimal disruption using the suggestions in map 4: sending the Keene Mill island off Huntsman to LB and eliminating the Sangster split feeders, as well as enforcing WSHS being closed to tranafers instead of giving waivers to 60 kids to attend WSHS in spite of it being closed. The rest will correct as class of 2026 graduates.

FCPS has not enforced their language transfer rules for years, at least not at WSHS.

The rule is that kids who are transferring for language or AP can only transfer to the next school with space that is open to transfers. Since WSHS is not open to transfers and does not have space, not a single student should be allowed to transfer into WSHS for German or AP. Those kids need to be moved to a different school, as the first step before rezoning Sangster.

[Anonymous]

8130 should be amended to only allow for boundary changes after an under enrolled school has all in-boundary students returned. There is no need to drag other students into these schools while allowing in-boundary kids to flee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

The perfect example is the new high school.
Community that needs it wants a traditional high school, but they keep pushing special programs. Crazy. They think everyone is tied to aviation because it is near the museum--but people are really tied to the neighborhoods and schools are the focus for all the families with kids in school.

If they had set the boundaries and touted the future it would have had more positive results. As it is, you are going to get questionable results.

Option A is logical by anyone who is objective--if they add all of Floris.

I cannot believe they are listening to the loudest voices. I do not understand why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

The perfect example is the new high school.
Community that needs it wants a traditional high school, but they keep pushing special programs. Crazy. They think everyone is tied to aviation because it is near the museum--but people are really tied to the neighborhoods and schools are the focus for all the families with kids in school.

If they had set the boundaries and touted the future it would have had more positive results. As it is, you are going to get questionable results.

Option A is logical by anyone who is objective--if they add all of Floris.

I cannot believe they are listening to the loudest voices. I do not understand why.

Of course, loudest voices are strongly correlated to families who are in the crosshairs to be moved. Different areas across Fairfax have been vocal every time a new area gets screwed in a proposed map.

People who complain about the “loudest voices” are the same people who pretend that there is some silent majority that secretly supports upending kids for no reason. It’s transparent and you lose credibility when you make silly arguments like that.

The school board is right to listen to parents who advocate for their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

The perfect example is the new high school.
Community that needs it wants a traditional high school, but they keep pushing special programs. Crazy. They think everyone is tied to aviation because it is near the museum--but people are really tied to the neighborhoods and schools are the focus for all the families with kids in school.

If they had set the boundaries and touted the future it would have had more positive results. As it is, you are going to get questionable results.

Option A is logical by anyone who is objective--if they add all of Floris.

I cannot believe they are listening to the loudest voices. I do not understand why.

Of course, loudest voices are strongly correlated to families who are in the crosshairs to be moved. Different areas across Fairfax have been vocal every time a new area gets screwed in a proposed map.

People who complain about the “loudest voices” are the same people who pretend that there is some silent majority that secretly supports upending kids for no reason. It’s transparent and you lose credibility when you make silly arguments like that.

The school board is right to listen to parents who advocate for their kids.[/quote]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

The perfect example is the new high school.
Community that needs it wants a traditional high school, but they keep pushing special programs. Crazy. They think everyone is tied to aviation because it is near the museum--but people are really tied to the neighborhoods and schools are the focus for all the families with kids in school.

If they had set the boundaries and touted the future it would have had more positive results. As it is, you are going to get questionable results.

Option A is logical by anyone who is objective--if they add all of Floris.

I cannot believe they are listening to the loudest voices. I do not understand why.

Of course, loudest voices are strongly correlated to families who are in the crosshairs to be moved. Different areas across Fairfax have been vocal every time a new area gets screwed in a proposed map.

People who complain about the “loudest voices” are the same people who pretend that there is some silent majority that secretly supports upending kids for no reason. It’s transparent and you lose credibility when you make silly arguments like that.

The school board is right to listen to parents who advocate for their kids.[/quote]

The School board should make the best choices for the students--not just the wealthy students whose parents have the time and resources.

[Anonymous]

Well, they clearly aren’t going to do that. The School Board is a bunch of cowards who talk a good game but don’t want any accountability, and the consultants Reid hired were both lazy and incompetent.

Total fiasco. Reid should be fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

The perfect example is the new high school.
Community that needs it wants a traditional high school, but they keep pushing special programs. Crazy. They think everyone is tied to aviation because it is near the museum--but people are really tied to the neighborhoods and schools are the focus for all the families with kids in school.

If they had set the boundaries and touted the future it would have had more positive results. As it is, you are going to get questionable results.

Option A is logical by anyone who is objective--if they add all of Floris.

I cannot believe they are listening to the loudest voices. I do not understand why.

Of course, loudest voices are strongly correlated to families who are in the crosshairs to be moved. Different areas across Fairfax have been vocal every time a new area gets screwed in a proposed map.

People who complain about the “loudest voices” are the same people who pretend that there is some silent majority that secretly supports upending kids for no reason. It’s transparent and you lose credibility when you make silly arguments like that.

The school board is right to listen to parents who advocate for their kids.[/quote]

The School board should make the best choices for the students--not just the wealthy students whose parents have the time and resources.

Tell yourself whatever narrative you want, Sandy. You pretend that we should ignore people based on slightly higher income level. Class warfare at the levels you’re advocating are self-defeating and misguided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think they're going to drop the map on Friday at 5pm?

No. They won't release it until Jan. 8 when Reid sends it to the board. Staff and the school board clearly don't want to hear from the community about this anymore. They're done.

I understand the fatigue but it is due to the sheer incompetence of Thru Consulting, which came up with one set of flawed proposals after another. And then you had Michelle Reid running around the county making deals on the side and promises they may or may not keep.

We’re all tired but they created this mess. Usually disasters on this scale result in leadership changes, but it’s FCPS so Reid will probably get a raise or a bonus instead.

The perfect example is the new high school.
Community that needs it wants a traditional high school, but they keep pushing special programs. Crazy. They think everyone is tied to aviation because it is near the museum--but people are really tied to the neighborhoods and schools are the focus for all the families with kids in school.

If they had set the boundaries and touted the future it would have had more positive results. As it is, you are going to get questionable results.

Option A is logical by anyone who is objective--if they add all of Floris.

I cannot believe they are listening to the loudest voices. I do not understand why.

Of course, loudest voices are strongly correlated to families who are in the crosshairs to be moved. Different areas across Fairfax have been vocal every time a new area gets screwed in a proposed map.

People who complain about the “loudest voices” are the same people who pretend that there is some silent majority that secretly supports upending kids for no reason. It’s transparent and you lose credibility when you make silly arguments like that.

The school board is right to listen to parents who advocate for their kids.[/quote]

The School board should make the best choices for the students--not just the wealthy students whose parents have the time and resources.

Tell yourself whatever narrative you want, Sandy. You pretend that we should ignore people based on slightly higher income level. Class warfare at the levels you’re advocating are self-defeating and misguided.

Not Sandy. An UMC mom who has advocated for her own children--but also knows that some objective standards need to be used.
As long as the standards are applied evenly, I'm fine with it. I do not think kids should be moved to "even" demographics and I do not think it is the job of highly enrolled schools to help underenrolled schools.

I also think that until IB is eliminated in the schools that all bets are off. Parents should not have to pupil place out of an IB school. Not everyone is able to provide daily transportation for their kids.

I especially do not like the game of whack-a-mole they have played with this review.

And, FWIW, I live no where near Springfield.

[Anonymous]

They need to get rid of IB and bring in-boundary students back to the base school. After that, we can start talking over or under capacity schools, but only after that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of IB and bring in-boundary students back to the base school. After that, we can start talking over or under capacity schools, but only after that.

They should also standardize foreign language options so that we don't have some high schools offering multiple languages typically not offered at other schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of IB and bring in-boundary students back to the base school. After that, we can start talking over or under capacity schools, but only after that.

They should also standardize foreign language options so that we don't have some high schools offering multiple languages typically not offered at other schools.

I don't think that is possible. But, they could limit placement based on that or offer virtual classes if they insist.

There would not be enough qualified teachers interested in teaching some of those languages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of IB and bring in-boundary students back to the base school. After that, we can start talking over or under capacity schools, but only after that.

They should also standardize foreign language options so that we don't have some high schools offering multiple languages typically not offered at other schools.

I don't think that is possible. But, they could limit placement based on that or offer virtual classes if they insist.

There would not be enough qualified teachers interested in teaching some of those languages.

Fine, then just offer certain languages online. This is a glaring inequity within FCPS and you want to prevent kids from pupil placing into the favored schools while other schools get inferior options.