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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

As one woman on Nextdoor posted: if you are close enough to Herndon High School to hear the band practice, you should not be assigned to Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

As one woman on Nextdoor posted: if you are close enough to Herndon High School to hear the band practice, you should not be assigned to Langley.

Or if your kid’s away game is MUCH closer than their home game….

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

They tried real hard to get it done and failed. The numbers will never justify it

If you believe that then the GFCA was crying wolf by saying no one else after the Spring Hill kids should ever be moved to Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, certainly proximity affects community. Kind of don't understand why people on south side of 7 and have a Herndon address are zoned for Langley.

I can agree with that. Problem is the dividing line was Walker road, the center of Great Falls

If you're talking about the time when much of Great Falls went to Herndon, I thought the dividing line was Springvale Road, not Walker Road. Was it Walker?

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If you try really hard, maybe all you Great Falls moms can fill another 10 pages on this thread. Goals!

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

They tried real hard to get it done and failed. The numbers will never justify it

If you believe that then the GFCA was crying wolf by saying no one else after the Spring Hill kids should ever be moved to Langley.

I am GF resident on the far west and north side, and I was concerned about the review. However, after this year's boundary review, and the level of support that came out to make sure no GF students were moved, I have a hard time believing there will be any changes in the future. This "comprehensive review" was the time to do it. Based on lower enrollment percentages to Langley, and the Herndon expansion, I think things will be pretty set for the next 3 or 4 reviews. GF is too strong of a community to be separated, and its boundaries changed. I do feel bad about the Oakton families, it is really unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

They tried real hard to get it done and failed. The numbers will never justify it

If you believe that then the GFCA was crying wolf by saying no one else after the Spring Hill kids should ever be moved to Langley.

I am GF resident on the far west and north side, and I was concerned about the review. However, after this year's boundary review, and the level of support that came out to make sure no GF students were moved, I have a hard time believing there will be any changes in the future. This "comprehensive review" was the time to do it. Based on lower enrollment percentages to Langley, and the Herndon expansion, I think things will be pretty set for the next 3 or 4 reviews. GF is too strong of a community to be separated, and its boundaries changed. I do feel bad about the Oakton families, it is really unnecessary.

They've committed to doing comprehensive reviews every five years. There's no obligation to send Great Falls to a single HS any more than there is to send all of Falls Church, McLean, or Vienna to a single high school, and GF used to split between Herndon and Langley. It all depends on what enrollments look like in the future, and Langley is picking up the rest of Spring Hill, and that area is in Tysons and slated for additional growth.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

They tried real hard to get it done and failed. The numbers will never justify it

If you believe that then the GFCA was crying wolf by saying no one else after the Spring Hill kids should ever be moved to Langley.

I am GF resident on the far west and north side, and I was concerned about the review. However, after this year's boundary review, and the level of support that came out to make sure no GF students were moved, I have a hard time believing there will be any changes in the future. This "comprehensive review" was the time to do it. Based on lower enrollment percentages to Langley, and the Herndon expansion, I think things will be pretty set for the next 3 or 4 reviews. GF is too strong of a community to be separated, and its boundaries changed. I do feel bad about the Oakton families, it is really unnecessary.

I think this is the problem. The school system needs to stop listening to current families and focus on what is best for future families. This should be long-term, not "what do parents of high schoolers want" because they'll be gone in 1-4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

They tried real hard to get it done and failed. The numbers will never justify it

If you believe that then the GFCA was crying wolf by saying no one else after the Spring Hill kids should ever be moved to Langley.

I am GF resident on the far west and north side, and I was concerned about the review. However, after this year's boundary review, and the level of support that came out to make sure no GF students were moved, I have a hard time believing there will be any changes in the future. This "comprehensive review" was the time to do it. Based on lower enrollment percentages to Langley, and the Herndon expansion, I think things will be pretty set for the next 3 or 4 reviews. GF is too strong of a community to be separated, and its boundaries changed. I do feel bad about the Oakton families, it is really unnecessary.

I think this is the problem. The school system needs to stop listening to current families and focus on what is best for future families. This should be long-term, not "what do parents of high schoolers want" because they'll be gone in 1-4 years.

Real I-must-burn-the-city-to-save-it vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

DP. Community isn’t bogus, it’s what makes public schools successful. Would give anything for the school board to understand that.

You define and redefine “community” as you see fit to stay zoned to certain schools.

People fight to stay in certain schools when a small chunk gets moved. If you wholesale moved Madison's student body to Marshall, in 3 years it would just be Madison. The culture would change, the baseball team would be a lot better, etc. School performance is almost entirely a result of what the families put into it.

In all the 90s movies about kids at rough schools turning things around, it's because teachers get the students and parents to see the value of education. Not because they magically made the quality of the education offered better. It's the community that sets those values.

How is Marshall’s community all that different than Madison? You really think the “culture” is all that different? We aren’t comparing Herndon and Langley. The big difference is AP vs IB, which is a valid concern.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, certainly proximity affects community. Kind of don't understand why people on south side of 7 and have a Herndon address are zoned for Langley.

I can agree with that. Problem is the dividing line was Walker road, the center of Great Falls

If you're talking about the time when much of Great Falls went to Herndon, I thought the dividing line was Springvale Road, not Walker Road. Was it Walker?

DP. It was Springvale, not Walker. And why does this thread keep bringing up Great Falls when they are not being moved and aren't part of the changing boundaries? Is it the same disgruntled poster who *always* finds a way to work GF into the conversation so she can continue griping?

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Anonymous wrote:If you try really hard, maybe all you Great Falls moms can fill another 10 pages on this thread. Goals!

It's not the "Great Falls moms" who keep bringing it up - it's those who desperately want to move GF's boundaries but are furious because that's not happening.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.

No one is being moved out of Great Falls now because the numbers don’t justify it. In five years things may be different and a move may be necessary based on capacity grounds.

If that happens, don’t expect anyone to buy your bogus argument that it’s based on an “anti-community” or “anti-capitalist” agenda. ALL it would mean is that you’re part of the same county as everyone else.

They tried real hard to get it done and failed. The numbers will never justify it

If you believe that then the GFCA was crying wolf by saying no one else after the Spring Hill kids should ever be moved to Langley.

I am GF resident on the far west and north side, and I was concerned about the review. However, after this year's boundary review, and the level of support that came out to make sure no GF students were moved, I have a hard time believing there will be any changes in the future. This "comprehensive review" was the time to do it. Based on lower enrollment percentages to Langley, and the Herndon expansion, I think things will be pretty set for the next 3 or 4 reviews. GF is too strong of a community to be separated, and its boundaries changed. I do feel bad about the Oakton families, it is really unnecessary.

I think this is the problem. The school system needs to stop listening to current families and focus on what is best for future families. This should be long-term, not "what do parents of high schoolers want" because they'll be gone in 1-4 years.

Real I-must-burn-the-city-to-save-it vibes.

From the same person who keep talking about young kids and older kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

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Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.

Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.

BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.

Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.

Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.

But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.

We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!

Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple

This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.

I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.

Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.

Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism

You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.

DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.

Herndon address homes south of Rt. 7 are not in any way part of the Great Falls community, other than the fact that the developers got the school boundary gerrymandered 40 years ago so they could make more money selling houses. They should be going to their real community school, in Herndon.

So, your position is give the developers a sweetheart deal that gets them top dollar on the sale, then totally screw the unsuspecting buyer down the road? Shortchanging innocent constituents is not quite the virtuous argument that you think it is.

I prefer people over corporations, but I guess you’ve got a different view.

Those buyers are long since past the age of having kids in school. Anyone in the decades since could easily look at the boundary map when home shopping and say, "hmm... that doesn't look right" before committing so much money to a home purchase.