APS Elementary Planning Mtg at Swanson - Option 1 in, Option 2 out, McKinley Moms out of contro

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Anonymous wrote:If what the PP said is true, Save McKinley needs to distance itself from the McKrazies who obviously only care about themselves and are willing to make sure everyone else suffers because of their own entitlement. However, the queen of screamers was wearing a SaveMcK shirt on tv, so.........

The #SaveMcKinley crew is a self-created group of parents who got pissed at the McKinley PTA for not being aggressive enough to advocate for their family's interests. Emilie Heller-- aka McKrazy-- has yelled at our PTA leadership the same way she has yelled at APS staff. She yelled at our PTA president for being "too nice" during two of the recent PTA meetings. (And yes, I mean yelled.) Note, our PTA president is a 5th grade parent who got stuck in this role for a 2nd year in a row because no other parents volunteered to take over for her last year. Emilie should be thanking her, but instead she just throws insults. Most of the more vocal #SaveMcKinley crew are parents who never show up for PTA meetings and never volunteer. I don't think closing McKinley is the right decision because we can't open Reed with 830 students (see Proposal #1) but I am so horrified at the way some of these parents are acting.

Where is this 830 number coming from? From what I can see, proposal #1 puts an estimated 702 at Reed (and that's without boundary refinements).

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Analsysis-of-Students-Moving-rev_2019_Nov_16.pdf

That's the old version. APS updated it after some errors were pointed out in the Nov. 16 analysis. You need to download the "Analysis of Walkers and Bus Eligible Students by Proposal" spreadsheet that was released on November 27. You can find that spreadsheet here. https://www.apsva.us/engage/planning-for-2020-elementary-school-boundary-process/

I am not making up the 830 number for Reed. Its on the spreadsheet-- Tab 2, Cell X32.

How do we see the list of all planning units? Excel newbie.

3rd tab

on this one:
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/2019-11-26-Revised-Walk-Zone-Scenarios.xlsx

Thank you. When I click on the 3rd tab (Date uased to create tables), i only see a few lines 2646-2666 (first line says A. Fleet and rest say Nottingham). what am i doing wrong?

I had this too. Go to the header for column A titled Planning Unit. Click on the down arrow. You'll see a search box and a list of all of the planning units. On mine, only one planning unit was checked, so I think the spreadsheet only showed the rows involving that planning unit. I unclicked the single PU number and checked the box for "select all". Then the spreadsheet loaded with all planning units listed. Hope that made sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

Well, that’d solve the overcrowding issue. A third of south Arlington would move away and then it’d be a matter of bussing kids north of 50 south from their overcrowded schools to half empty ones in SA.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

Well, that’d solve the overcrowding issue. A third of south Arlington would move away and then it’d be a matter of bussing kids north of 50 south from their overcrowded schools to half empty ones in SA.

You don't get it...people with kids would still move in. Option schools are a luxury we can no longer afford...what a waste of tax payer $$ buses and all.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

Well, that’d solve the overcrowding issue. A third of south Arlington would move away and then it’d be a matter of bussing kids north of 50 south from their overcrowded schools to half empty ones in SA.

Good. If they don’t want to go to their neighborhood school, let them leave. Drew has plenty of spots.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

Well, that’d solve the overcrowding issue. A third of south Arlington would move away and then it’d be a matter of bussing kids north of 50 south from their overcrowded schools to half empty ones in SA.

You don't get it...people with kids would still move in. Option schools are a luxury we can no longer afford...what a waste of tax payer $$ buses and all.

"half" of all SA school kids are not in option programs. Not nearly.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

Well, that’d solve the overcrowding issue. A third of south Arlington would move away and then it’d be a matter of bussing kids north of 50 south from their overcrowded schools to half empty ones in SA.

You don't get it...people with kids would still move in. Option schools are a luxury we can no longer afford...what a waste of tax payer $$ buses and all.

Oh please. We’re one of the richest counties in the nation. Poorer cities than ours have option schools. Arlington County is a luxury.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the #SaveMcKinleys think about the no-moves option. The McK they "bought" into won't be the same school, not at all.

Anyone idea of what the boundaries would look like if McK, Reed and Ashlawn are all neighborhood schools? That is a lot of seats to fill.

In the no-moves map, McK kept the immediate neighborhood and then went way down into S. Arlington.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Representative-Boundary-Scenario.png

Let McKrazy have that, then we will talk about her house value.

McKrazy could walk...isn't that all that really matters in the end?

Why don't they just let her opt to stay at McKinley? They can plan to leave McKinley at a capacity that allows for neighborhood transfers and she can transfer back in to stay. Those remaining at McKinley will just have to sacrifice themselves for everyone else's salvation from her.

McKrazy could try to lottery into ATS. There will be 100 more seats so I'd imagine they'd add a new classroom to each grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

Well, that’d solve the overcrowding issue. A third of south Arlington would move away and then it’d be a matter of bussing kids north of 50 south from their overcrowded schools to half empty ones in SA.

You don't get it...people with kids would still move in. Option schools are a luxury we can no longer afford...what a waste of tax payer $$ buses and all.

Oh please. We’re one of the richest counties in the nation. Poorer cities than ours have option schools. Arlington County is a luxury.

Someone should let the county board know that the next time they are doing the APS budget. APS per student spending is less than other "rich" areas.

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Glad that Arlnow is not covering this nonsense.

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I love proposal 1. This is by far the most thoughtful and best explained staff proposal in at least a decade. It takes a county wide approach and it is based on newly scrubbed data. They don’t have perfect predictions of future K enrollment. Impossible. But what they’ve done is a solid product. The fact that you don’t like the implications for your home/PU is not a reason to trash this. And the idea of doing boundaries and school moves at the same time is preposterous and ignores the fact that PUs close to option schools enroll LESS in their neighborhood schools. You can’t ignore that and so it all at the same time. You have to move schools first.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad that Arlnow is not covering this nonsense.

Lordy. Don’t conjure it. Can you imagine the comment section?

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Some of McK is going to Tuckahoe. McKrazy won’t be zoned there, but some of Madison Manor is contiguous to Tuck units

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Anonymous wrote:Some of McK is going to Tuckahoe. McKrazy won’t be zoned there, but some of Madison Manor is contiguous to Tuck units

Is that a problem? I hear Tuckahoe is a pretty good school.

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Anonymous wrote:I love proposal 1. This is by far the most thoughtful and best explained staff proposal in at least a decade. It takes a county wide approach and it is based on newly scrubbed data. They don’t have perfect predictions of future K enrollment. Impossible. But what they’ve done is a solid product. The fact that you don’t like the implications for your home/PU is not a reason to trash this. And the idea of doing boundaries and school moves at the same time is preposterous and ignores the fact that PUs close to option schools enroll LESS in their neighborhood schools. You can’t ignore that and so it all at the same time. You have to move schools first.

Agreed let us all remember this in September when it comes down to individual PUs

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Anonymous wrote:Glad that Arlnow is not covering this nonsense.

Lordy. Don’t conjure it. Can you imagine the comment section?

I'm really surprised it's not in ArlNow yet!