Why did Kamala lose ?

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.


Country is racist and sexiest. Surprise
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Anonymous wrote:Harris wins Illinois but 4 points!

Biden won by 16!!!!!


No way it should have been that close.

Lots of angry voters there voting against Harris!!!


I'm in suburban cook county and I know a shocking number of moms in my peer group who went for Trump. They had to keep it secret from their "vote blue no matter who" parents. But retired people have an old image of the Dem party that's no longer accurate. The moms had a variety of reasons but they ALL brought up the gender nonsense that permeates the schools. Assemblies in ES to celebrate a teacher coming out as trans, endless books about expressing your gender, teaching kids about being non binary. The party has alienated a generation of young parents with this baloney.


This. People who dismiss this as a “tiny” issue must not have school-aged children. Just last month a boy ran in the girls’ race at my son’s cross-country meet in northern VA. The kids were confused as to how the adults let that happen. They know it was unfair. Asking us as parents to deny the reality we can see with our own eyes is a losing position to take.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure. But, I saw a post by an acquaintance this am that said: I voted red because I don't want boys in girls locker rooms.
This...this is the hill you'll die on? I should mention she's very uneducated.


It’s emblematic of something bigger…including things like an outright dismissal of legitimate concerns coupled with an elitist judgment of their lack of education.

I mean, we just lost…to a really unqualified and dangerous person…and the knee jerk reaction is that more than half the country is stupid and we are smarter…really? If we were smarter, we would have won. We would have had better messaging that acknowledged all the concerns raised by voters over the last few years.


I can’t imagine any sane parent of daughters thinking Trump is the better option here. Explain it to me like I’m 5.


I’m a Dem who detests Trump but understands why he won.

It’s everything. A lot of issues and aggravating sound bites from the Left on myriad things. It isn’t just transpeople in the locker room, so don’t fixate on that reason.

Like another poster said, this is really an indictment of the far left that somehow took up way too much time and space in Dem politics. We need Dems to have a Sister Souljah moment and call out the crazy.


Kamala could have had a moderating Siter Souljah moment on the view if she had come up with a single policy of Biden’s she would change, but she couldn’t think of anything. Sealed her fate.
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Anonymous wrote:Exactly, you can't call people uneducated, you can't tell them the economy is great when groceries are niticibly more expensive, you can't serve up platitudes when they see people crossing the border illegally and then being put up in hotels on the taxpayer dime, with their kids coming to already struggling schools, you can't put the rights of a very small number if people (or any group) above everyone else's rights.

You can't treat them like idiots (even if you think that's what they are) and expect them to vote for you.

And then Harris can't even go across town to thank all her supporters?

Very disappointing (but not totally surprising) that people who think they are so smart got it so wrong.


You also have to have a plan to address these. Trump doesn't really offer anything except "deport people". People care about words only, not actual plans.
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Queer online communities came up with that. And immigrants overall are more conservative. Of course it wouldn't stick with them.


Totally false. Queer never had anything to do with it. It was invented as shorthand rather than typing out things like "latinos and latinas"


Sigh.

But Latinos is the word that encompasses both men and women. The O is the default gender for all.

Latinx and Folx are terms that became popular thanks to the same people named Jim who opt to spell it Jym to communicate to the world that they are not cisgender hetero…they are unique/different.

I think the tribe has spoken: enough already. Pandering to the fringe alienates more voters than it attracts.

We lost. Let’s figure out why and do better next time.
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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.


Country is racist and sexiest. Surprise


There’s 20+ pages here of people telling you why it happened. Get your head out of the sand and listen to them, or the same thing will happen again in four years.
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Anonymous wrote:Immature third party idiots. F you all seriously.


“How dare they oppose genocide!”

/s


Well they'll see what happens now in Gaza and Ukraine.


Where’s the left’s sympathy for the disaster we left for women after our shameful pull out of Afghanistan?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure. But, I saw a post by an acquaintance this am that said: I voted red because I don't want boys in girls locker rooms.
This...this is the hill you'll die on? I should mention she's very uneducated.


It’s emblematic of something bigger…including things like an outright dismissal of legitimate concerns coupled with an elitist judgment of their lack of education.

I mean, we just lost…to a really unqualified and dangerous person…and the knee jerk reaction is that more than half the country is stupid and we are smarter…really? If we were smarter, we would have won. We would have had better messaging that acknowledged all the concerns raised by voters over the last few years.


I can’t imagine any sane parent of daughters thinking Trump is the better option here. Explain it to me like I’m 5.


I’m a Dem who detests Trump but understands why he won.

It’s everything. A lot of issues and aggravating sound bites from the Left on myriad things. It isn’t just transpeople in the locker room, so don’t fixate on that reason.

Like another poster said, this is really an indictment of the far left that somehow took up way too much time and space in Dem politics. We need Dems to have a Sister Souljah moment and call out the crazy.


Nah. Republicans made it look like it took up too much time and space.


This is absolutely true. They took every fringe weird thing and totally blew it out of proportion. And the fearmongering is effective when their base is as isolated as they are. They apparently now actually believe that Dem cities are murderous hellholes overrun by arsonistic mobs and hordes of cat-eating illegal aliens and that our schools are full of nothing but weird kids who think they care "cat gender." We've lost any semblance of sanity.
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Several reasons:
Country is racist, sexist, and xenophobic
The whole mess with Biden being the candidate and then withdrawing
She is amazing compared to Trump, and I like her fine, but I don't think she would have been the first choice for nominee if it had not been for the Biden mess. The dems did not really build up her image as VP much, so she felt like sort of an unknown. Made no difference to me, given the other choice, but probably affected undecided voters.
Unhappiness about the situation in Gaza.
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I found the VP’s embrace of the Cheneys and their kind to be stupid. She’s going to wear neocon support as some sort badge of honor? Celebrating the people who brought the US 2+ decades of lost wars and failed military adventurism? Dumb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well you call half the nation nazis or garbage, you fight to allow mentally ill men to compete against your daughters in sports and force their daughters to change in locker rooms with grown men, you let in large swaths of illegal aliens to sick already expensive resources and take over apartment complexes and run gangs, you spend 100s of billion on a war overseas while Americans can’t afford their grocery and utilities, you rig with a candidate who wasn’t even elected but appointed to “save democracy”, you make abortion your top priority when most Americans don’t care for it, you gaslight the public for three and half years by putting Mr Magoo in charge of the nuclear codes, you select a VP who gives people the creeps and you spend the last four years telling men they’re sexist misogynist pigs and they’re the problem.

I think that about covers it.

Completely agree. Normal people are tired of the woke BS. The reality is a majority of the men identifying as women have a paraphilia and are attracted to women yet the stupid Democrats want them in women’s spaces. Apparently standing up for women only means giving them the right to abort their babies. Plus the DEI crap has got to go. People are so tired of everything being called racist.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure. But, I saw a post by an acquaintance this am that said: I voted red because I don't want boys in girls locker rooms.
This...this is the hill you'll die on? I should mention she's very uneducated.


It’s emblematic of something bigger…including things like an outright dismissal of legitimate concerns coupled with an elitist judgment of their lack of education.

I mean, we just lost…to a really unqualified and dangerous person…and the knee jerk reaction is that more than half the country is stupid and we are smarter…really? If we were smarter, we would have won. We would have had better messaging that acknowledged all the concerns raised by voters over the last few years.


I can’t imagine any sane parent of daughters thinking Trump is the better option here. Explain it to me like I’m 5.


I’m a Dem who detests Trump but understands why he won.

It’s everything. A lot of issues and aggravating sound bites from the Left on myriad things. It isn’t just transpeople in the locker room, so don’t fixate on that reason.

Like another poster said, this is really an indictment of the far left that somehow took up way too much time and space in Dem politics. We need Dems to have a Sister Souljah moment and call out the crazy.


Nah. Republicans made it look like it took up too much time and space.


Harris was anything but far-left. More like moderate to conservative by any objective standard. I don't think ideology was even that important to her.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immature third party idiots. F you all seriously.


“How dare they oppose genocide!”

/s


Well they'll see what happens now in Gaza and Ukraine.


Where’s the left’s sympathy for the disaster we left for women after our shameful pull out of Afghanistan?


That was Trump's deal.
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Anonymous wrote:Well you call half the nation nazis or garbage, you fight to allow mentally ill men to compete against your daughters in sports and force their daughters to change in locker rooms with grown men, you let in large swaths of illegal aliens to sick already expensive resources and take over apartment complexes and run gangs, you spend 100s of billion on a war overseas while Americans can’t afford their grocery and utilities, you rig with a candidate who wasn’t even elected but appointed to “save democracy”, you make abortion your top priority when most Americans don’t care for it, you gaslight the public for three and half years by putting Mr Magoo in charge of the nuclear codes, you select a VP who gives people the creeps and you spend the last four years telling men they’re sexist misogynist pigs and they’re the problem.

I think that about covers it.

Completely agree. Normal people are tired of the woke BS. The reality is a majority of the men identifying as women have a paraphilia and are attracted to women yet the stupid Democrats want them in women’s spaces. Apparently standing up for women only means giving them the right to abort their babies. Plus the DEI crap has got to go. People are so tired of everything being called racist.


I don't really know about this in real life. I think it's mostly the subject of far-right fantasies.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.


Country is racist and sexiest. Surprise


There’s 20+ pages here of people telling you why it happened. Get your head out of the sand and listen to them, or the same thing will happen again in four years.


So far they've told us they are hysterical about the handful of trans athletes and other weird things.
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