Africans and blacks in Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

You are kicking entire Ukraine when they are down. I know what you are thinking. Kick them when they are down since it's easier to kick them when they are down. There's time and place for everything. This is not it.

A random poster on an obscure American message board is kicking an entire country thousands of miles away whose inhabitants don’t know about this message board?

It sounds like it’s time for you to worry less about Ukraine and more about your mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

I've read the entire thread. Yes, some people dismissed the concerns as Russian propaganda. Most people simply took issue with your view that because there are racists in Ukraine, the country deserves whatever Russia does to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

I've read the entire thread. Yes, some people dismissed the concerns as Russian propaganda. Most people simply took issue with your view that because there are racists in Ukraine, the country deserves whatever Russia does to it.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

I've read the entire thread. Yes, some people dismissed the concerns as Russian propaganda. Most people simply took issue with your view that because there are racists in Ukraine, the country deserves whatever Russia does to it.

DP. Hardly anyone said that the country deserves whatever Russia does to it. What people did say is that the extent of Ukrainians’ racism and cruelty to Asian, African, and Middle Eastern people trying to flee the same peril as Ukrainians + the fact that Neo-Nazis are firmly entrenched within Ukrainian society and government = They’re rethinking blind support of Ukraine and aware now that there are bad actors on both sides. No one has questioned that Russia is the aggressor and committing atrocities.

I’m astonished at the dishonesty and narcissism of some of you who would have POC and allies ignore the virulent racism of Ukrainian society. The idea of this not being the time and place is so callous and arrogant. People absolutely have the right to make moral judgments in deciding how to allocate their emotional and financial resources. In fact, Zelensky and the cadre of Ukrainians doing PR for the country have cast themselves as victims and saints in very moralistic, even biblical terms precisely because the morality of the situation matters. For us to consider facts that complicate the simplistic narrative and draw new conclusions is perfectly valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

You are kicking entire Ukraine when they are down. I know what you are thinking. Kick them when they are down since it's easier to kick them when they are down. There's time and place for everything. This is not it.

This is a board where most people post anonymously, so you don't know who posted what, but you must have some special powers to come to the conclusion that I said Ukraine deserves what it got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

I've read the entire thread. Yes, some people dismissed the concerns as Russian propaganda. Most people simply took issue with your view that because there are racists in Ukraine, the country deserves whatever Russia does to it.

This is a board where most people post anonymously, so you don't know who posted what, but you must have some special powers to come to the conclusion that I said Ukraine deserves what it got. smh

I meant to reply to you not the other poster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is saying that there aren’t racists in Ukraine.

Then you haven't read the thread. The reason there are so many pages in this thread is because anyone who called out the racism is a Russian propaganda machine.

For those who were asking why the Indian kids did not leave earlier, some students who evacuated gave an interview and mentioned it was the Ukrainian universities who refused to give online classes in the beginning. These kids came to Ukraine because the education is cheaper than in India for medicine, so they couldn't abandon ship when the university threated them about their degrees if they left and they were in final year. And the Indian government did not ask them to evacuate immediately. Racism from Ukrainian officials combined with poor planning by the Indian embassy. And Modi's cheerleaders are doing photo ops with students who have landed, inside the plane, and giving speeches. Everyone sucks.

https://twitter.com/ManojMujra/status/1498962408135888900?cxt=HHwWiMDUycmXsc0pAAAA

I've read the entire thread. Yes, some people dismissed the concerns as Russian propaganda. Most people simply took issue with your view that because there are racists in Ukraine, the country deserves whatever Russia does to it.

This is a board where most people post anonymously, so you don't know who posted what, but you must have some special powers to come to the conclusion that I said Ukraine deserves what it got. smh

I meant to reply to you not the other poster

DP. But that's what OP is saying. And rather than disagree, you pile on about the racist elements. So, that is what you're saying.

[Anonymous]

African countries were disproportionately represented among those that refused to support the UN resolution condemning the Russian invasion of the Ukraine.

I hope this has repercussions for US aid in the future. I don’t want any of my tax money going to support people in these countries. Let them suck up to Putin for handouts if he’s still around to help them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:African countries were disproportionately represented among those that refused to support the UN resolution condemning the Russian invasion of the Ukraine.

I hope this has repercussions for US aid in the future. I don’t want any of my tax money going to support people in these countries. Let them suck up to Putin for handouts if he’s still around to help them.

Did you know that Africa's new colonizers are China and Russia

[Anonymous]

How dare anyone call out racism in another country! Ukrainians are fleeing for their lives. Focus on what matters!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am willing to bet the US is more racist than smaller countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, North, Central, or South America.

You are wrong. I am from China. You have no idea what overt racism is. Like the whole bus laughing at a black guy.

It depends how you measure racism.

the percentage of black people that die from violence In the us is also a lot higher than in China.

So what’s more racist? Having a bus laugh at you or have some geore Zimmerman or those dudes in the pickup truck shoot you?

If Trayvon Martin was in Beijing he’d be alive.

That’s because the percentage of Americans who are Black is much higher than the percentage of Chinese who are Black because Britain imported Black slaves to their Western Hemisphere colonies. By the same token, the percentage of Huyghers sent to concentration camps in America is far lower than in China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am willing to bet the US is more racist than smaller countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, North, Central, or South America.

You are wrong. I am from China. You have no idea what overt racism is. Like the whole bus laughing at a black guy.

It depends how you measure racism.

the percentage of black people that die from violence In the us is also a lot higher than in China.

So what’s more racist? Having a bus laugh at you or have some geore Zimmerman or those dudes in the pickup truck shoot you?

If Trayvon Martin was in Beijing he’d be alive.

That’s because the percentage of Americans who are Black is much higher than the percentage of Chinese who are Black because Britain imported Black slaves to their Western Hemisphere colonies. By the same token, the percentage of Huyghers sent to concentration camps in America is far lower than in China.

Ugh hers are getting re-educated and building human capital.

In 20 years they’ll be more economically productive than blacks in the US.

So, which is actually the worse policy here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am willing to bet the US is more racist than smaller countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, North, Central, or South America.

You are wrong. I am from China. You have no idea what overt racism is. Like the whole bus laughing at a black guy.

It depends how you measure racism.

the percentage of black people that die from violence In the us is also a lot higher than in China.

So what’s more racist? Having a bus laugh at you or have some geore Zimmerman or those dudes in the pickup truck shoot you?

If Trayvon Martin was in Beijing he’d be alive.

Wrong. The Chinese are subjecting the Uighurs to forced labor. https://aleteia.org/2021/07/09/did-jesus-keep-kosher/

That’s because the percentage of Americans who are Black is much higher than the percentage of Chinese who are Black because Britain imported Black slaves to their Western Hemisphere colonies. By the same token, the percentage of Huyghers sent to concentration camps in America is far lower than in China.

Ugh hers are getting re-educated and building human capital.

In 20 years they’ll be more economically productive than blacks in the US.

So, which is actually the worse policy here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How dare anyone call out racism in another country! Ukrainians are fleeing for their lives. Focus on what matters!

See this is what gets me. These posters who insist that we should focus on that. When will these people understand that it is not just Ukrainians fleeing for their lives, but other nationalities too and they don't deserve racist treatment when they could also lose their lives. How is it okay that women who came early for the train were asked to wait for 7 hours and then turned away, all while watching Ukrainians board the train. Their lives matter too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am willing to bet the US is more racist than smaller countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, North, Central, or South America.

You are wrong. I am from China. You have no idea what overt racism is. Like the whole bus laughing at a black guy.

It depends how you measure racism.

the percentage of black people that die from violence In the us is also a lot higher than in China.

So what’s more racist? Having a bus laugh at you or have some geore Zimmerman or those dudes in the pickup truck shoot you?

If Trayvon Martin was in Beijing he’d be alive.

That’s because the percentage of Americans who are Black is much higher than the percentage of Chinese who are Black because Britain imported Black slaves to their Western Hemisphere colonies. By the same token, the percentage of Huyghers sent to concentration camps in America is far lower than in China.

Ugh hers are getting re-educated and building human capital.

In 20 years they’ll be more economically productive than blacks in the US.

So, which is actually the worse policy here?

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No, the Chinese are subjecting the Uighurs to forced labor. https://enduyghurforcedlabour.org/